Addressing the elephant in the room... Note on Pg 21 (24 April) - Page 14

Undeniably, everything that is being said in this thread is true. 100% true.

What makes gum different ? Virats portrayal is realistic. He acts in anger and repents later. Gum maintains the balance in the narrative that's why it's working (tg for that) . Getting angry and reacting is what most people relate to , what imp is , this kind of behavior should come with consequences and that's what happens here. Virat will eat up his words and make it upto sai. N sai will have to forgive him bec she is also at fault . Big time. Virats behavior is termed as abuse , I dunno what cud possibly be the name given to sai joshi's actions 😆

Also , I don't think virat deserves this much bashing. Sorry pl don't beat me up 😆 probably I have seen worse in this show only...Kaku ninad, along with pakhi. They are just poison .

Originally posted by: ..Peppermint..

Sai is gutsy, righteous and very brave, but does it not defeat the purpose of her characterisation when she'll come back to Virat, just because he'll be hurt. Does her love for Virat then not make her weak, when love is all about strengthening each other. Does coming back heal the verbal, emotional and all kind of abuse she faced. Is Virat's toxic love worth it, after all.

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Love makes the person "powerless" also and empowers by doing so ... sad but true....it answers a lot of questions . This is one dynamic between sai and virat. Another one is the joint family dynamic which is complicated. Virat is not just sai ka husband. He is somebody's brother , son etc etc and he has to play all roles. If his marriage with sai is a deal , sai has no business to interfere in his family matters. If it isnt , one has to play by the family's rules also . This issue isn't one dimensional.

This may the only post on this forum that has 95 likes

That goes to say something

I think we waste our time trying to justify actions of fictitious characters written by regressive minds

We do it because we are those type of personalities who try and justify everything in our lives

Or because we ourselves oscillate between what is gushing and how can I gush over this

Or we are the types who once we get on something, we have to see it through. Even if frankly it’s not really qualitatively worth it.

Or somewhere somehow we do relate to certain aspects,

it may be something happening to us or someone we know

and for some inexplicable reason we seem to think by watching what will happen we will know how it may translate in real life

And all of the above are excuses.

This is a show

If it’s honestly taking up more than necessary brain cells

We have got to stop watching it

No matter how much you justify

No matter how much you analyze

It’s regressive

And frankly it’s not even enjoyable anymore

They have shown a mother and uncles willfully incapacitating a grown woman to keep her from her intercaste marriage. This show is the most regressive shitshow with Karan Johar aesthetics. My problem also is that they haven't actually dwelled on the couple instead wasting time on outlandishly unrealistic situations in the settee. What Virat did today was so reprehensible that I don't care if they ever get back together or not. He has been too problematic for a while. He lacks the maturity that an older partner might bring to a relationship. I want him to be emotionally tormented with guilt, though. I have sort of disassociated myself from the show because ugh.

I feel bad for the actors because I don't think the producers care about stories. They produce oversaturated content daily and are just there to maximize their profits. Probably that's why most TV actors don't exhibit growth or versatility. Few, like Neil, are good actors but they get sucked into these caricatured roles

How have I not seen this post before? Nevertheless, better late than never. You put every single one of my thoughts in words. I couldn't have said it better. This is the exact reason why I stopped watching this show months ago. I caught a few of Ayesha and Neil's holi scenes, and that too just for Ayesha and Neil. But even they can't pull me to the screen anymore. It is deplorable how every single prime time Indian television show is showcasing domestic abuse in the name of love and romance, be it GHKKPM, SAAKK, YHC, YRKKH, etc. It's 2021, for god's sake!

Well I would say shows are for entertainment purpose only.the moment they begin to influence ur viewpoint .see the red liggt and run away from that show.But may I be I m in majority but I don't think a mere itv show has the power to change my value system and perception for life.

I hate violence and can't tolerate it any cost whether physical or emotional in real life.

But if I set my own value system bar for fictions then there is hardly anything to watch.

Virat and sai relationship is also one of the old try and tested for.ula of itv like force marriage,over mahaan fl who wants to become doctor but hardly study.i myself is a 2nd year mbbs students.i have no time.infact I couldn't attend my brother's engagement due to exams and one day leave for his marriage was granted.look at sai she is a topper but give a damn to her madical studies.sorry for divating as my profession is bring mocked in this show.camt control.

So virat and sai relationship is most cliched in itv history,both sai and virat characters are most cliched.nothing new nothing empowering.

But if one want to see drama then this is the perfect show just watch and enjoy.

Trp of this show both online and offline is proof that people may crib but love watch such toxic relationships.

Originally posted by: Jrf2021

Well I would say shows are for entertainment purpose only.the moment they begin to influence ur viewpoint .see the red liggt and run away from that show.But may I be I m in majority but I don't think a mere itv show has the power to change my value system and perception for life.

I hate violence and can't tolerate it any cost whether physical or emotional in real life.

But if I set my own value system bar for fictions then there is hardly anything to watch.

Virat and sai relationship is also one of the old try and tested for.ula of itv like force marriage,over mahaan fl who wants to become doctor but hardly study.i myself is a 2nd year mbbs students.i have no time.infact I couldn't attend my brother's engagement due to exams and one day leave for his marriage was granted.look at sai she is a topper but give a damn to her madical studies.sorry for divating as my profession is bring mocked in this show.camt control.

So virat and sai relationship is most cliched in itv history,both sai and virat characters are most cliched.nothing new nothing empowering.

But if one want to see drama then this is the perfect show just watch and enjoy.

Trp of this show both online and offline is proof that people may crib but love watch such toxic relationships.

Seems you missed the point completely.

Originally posted by: _charu_

Love makes the person "powerless" also and empowers by doing so ... sad but true....it answers a lot of questions . This is one dynamic between sai and virat. Another one is the joint family dynamic which is complicated. Virat is not just sai ka husband. He is somebody's brother , son etc etc and he has to play all roles. If his marriage with sai is a deal , sai has no business to interfere in his family matters. If it isnt , one has to play by the family's rules also . This issue isn't one dimensional.

There are so many dynamics, but the intention of this post was to look at the normalisation of toxicity as romance.

Somebody said in the post, Virat is human, but not humane and that's it. That's how it is. As I mentioned in the post, yes there are man like Virat, and there is no wrong in trying to showcase that.

My issue is Virat was promoted with this boy next door image, but his character has undergone a complete degeneration. My issue is equally that he is an IPS officer responsible for women's protection.

I have no idea what is happening in the show, I stopped long ago, so I cannot comment on the current scenario much. But nothing, nothing in this world can convince me that it is okay for a man to throw his wife out of the house in the middle of the night, to deprieve her of food or money when she is dependent on him.

And that circus troop is not worth being called a family. There are toxic families on ITV, but this one is on another level!

Originally posted by: _charu_

Undeniably, everything that is being said in this thread is true. 100% true.

What makes gum different ? Virats portrayal is realistic. He acts in anger and repents later. Gum maintains the balance in the narrative that's why it's working (tg for that) . Getting angry and reacting is what most people relate to , what imp is , this kind of behavior should come with consequences and that's what happens here. Virat will eat up his words and make it upto sai. N sai will have to forgive him bec she is also at fault . Big time. Virats behavior is termed as abuse , I dunno what cud possibly be the name given to sai joshi's actions 😆

Also , I don't think virat deserves this much bashing. Sorry pl don't beat me up 😆 probably I have seen worse in this show only...Kaku ninad, along with pakhi. They are just poison .

Sai doesn't "have to" do anything. Forgiving him will be her choice (though probably not optimal for her sake). And she's at fault how exactly? For not listening to Virat's unreasonable request to investigate something that doesn't require investigation? She should sit back while Devi's being poisoned on a daily basis, and Pulkit gets kidnapped and was at risk of being murdered?

Don't know how anyone can say Sai is at fault. She literally saved two people from physical harm. But oh, because that was done against the wishes of her abusive egotistical husband, she's at fault? Does Iron Man have to apologize to his wife every time he's saved the world against her objections? No of course not, because heroism doesn't require apologies. And Sai's a hero.

Originally posted by: Jrf2021

Well I would say shows are for entertainment purpose only.the moment they begin to influence ur viewpoint .see the red liggt and run away from that show.But may I be I m in majority but I don't think a mere itv show has the power to change my value system and perception for life.

I hate violence and can't tolerate it any cost whether physical or emotional in real life.

But if I set my own value system bar for fictions then there is hardly anything to watch.

Virat and sai relationship is also one of the old try and tested for.ula of itv like force marriage,over mahaan fl who wants to become doctor but hardly study.i myself is a 2nd year mbbs students.i have no time.infact I couldn't attend my brother's engagement due to exams and one day leave for his marriage was granted.look at sai she is a topper but give a damn to her madical studies.sorry for divating as my profession is bring mocked in this show.camt control.

So virat and sai relationship is most cliched in itv history,both sai and virat characters are most cliched.nothing new nothing empowering.

But if one want to see drama then this is the perfect show just watch and enjoy.

Trp of this show both online and offline is proof that people may crib but love watch such toxic relationships.

Read the first two paragraphs of the initial post again, and read the response to those paragraphs in the discussion and the anecdotes that members shared.

You see, I do watch nuanced shows as well, and like you I can differentiate between what is acceptable and what not and that's because we are informed. So, we won't blindly consume whatever we are being shown. But it is psychological, when you see something and it is reinforced over and over again, you internalise those beliefs. And its not me who says it, but research says it.

You can read about the hypodermic needle theory (discusses how media message injects a belief into you), Cultivation theory amongst many others to get a general idea of the issue.

But there are people who are not as informed as we are. That's the issue.