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Posted: 4 years ago
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A very long post but please bear with me and do try to give it a read. Thank you.


‘This show is disgusting’ ‘Bad message to society’ ‘It should end’ ‘ladke kharab horahe hai’ ‘sharam ki baat hai’

Give me a break.

I have been watching this show since the very first episode. And although I like adilie now, I never watched it as an adilie fan, I disliked aditya in the beginning and Malini was my favourite character, I love both Mun and Imlie now. I have pretty much watched it as a neutral viewer. And I think it’s easier to analyse a story when you’re not blinded by devotion or rage.

The screenplay, production, direction, acting of this show is absolutely phenomenal. They’ve managed to keep the audience hooked without any ott drama and have tried to keep the emotions as real as you can in itv. It’s easy to see hard work that goes into this show, the actors give their 100% do a great job and a show like this should get immense praise and recognition. But it doesn’t. Instead it gets bashed, sometimes rightfully, sometimes for the most ridiculous of reasons. Why? Because: Morals. The show is apparently immoral according to people.

I was perplexed as to how people remained blind to the subject of morals on itv for so long and suddenly are reminded of it. I got my answer when I watched a certain show rn and see the third angle, who is a villain and fl as unbelievably ‘mahaan’ as a fantasy figure could be. In between those two the ml gets to go scot free of the wrongs he’s done, be it emotional abuse or cheating. That’s what the audience likes, the easy way out. A clear distinction between black and white. After decades of having content like that onscreen, in a long time itv has introduced as close humans characters as they could. Gray characters, with complexities and nuances. And that is something some people are unable to digest.

For me the story progression has been wonderfully done. Maybe the makers should have been more clear about the subconscious struggles of the characters for the audience at large since they are unable to comprehend it right now, but I think many who watched regularly know how well the story progressed. Since the very beginning the concept has been clear, evident by how they were repeatedly playing the pia tose background and others only with aditya and imlie, focused on them, they were the main couple that was clear. Yet, some people set themselves up for disappointment by creating other ships and boy are they not taking it well. To me, Aditya Malini never had chemistry since the beginning and even the characters seemed more formal with each other. The way he was comfortable with imlu and joking before he was married to her was not even how he was with Mun. They always seemed incompatible and all their romantic scenes and gestures came after aditya got married to imlie, as if he was trying to compensate for the guilt he felt or trying to ignore his feelings or care towards imlu, as evident by the bridge incident and his sudden gesture for mun afterwards, because he realised he didn’t care much for mun like he had for imlie. People have stayed for longer than 7 years in stale relationships just because of the comfort they felt in it. For aditya it was a woman with good principles who loved him, for mun a guy she actually does love but more an escape from her toxic home life and someone who she doesn’t really understand but does not try to because of how stable the relationship was, reality check: it was stable because aditya hardly tried in it or took interest so how would they ever fight? They would have stayed like this forever, had aditya not realised what love truly was and was supposed to feel like. That doesn’t make this immoral, he is a guy who is trying to rectify the mistakes he made and once he has realised where his heart truly lies, he’s gonna stay true to that and wants to tell the truth to Malini. Sometimes people make mistakes and end up in bad relationships, loveless ones. And it’s okay for them to end it and find something better and have a chance at moving on in their life. But we can’t accept that because all we’ve seen around us all our lives is people compromising on them.

Honestly, this is a show where they’re trying to show you how horrible mistakes made by the leads drive the story forward, no external villains. The no villains part is what makes it interesting. The greys all characters have. Not even Anu or Dev are villains. Mun fans try to make adilie the villains when all they’ve done is fallen in love and are trying not to hurt others and find ways not to let themselves be hurt either, imlie especially, poor darling hasn’t done anything to deserve the hate I think and adilie fans try to turn Mallu into some fictional villainized version of herself, when she’s just a woman who is losing her marriage and love of 7 years so ofcourse she’ll lash out and want to fix it, she wants to save her marriage nothing wrong with it, there’s other flaws to her characters but she’s not a bad person, she’s a sweetheart. I don’t know at what point we turned from wanting stories to watch with actual characters with complexities to picture perfect world with picture perfect people. There is nothing wrong with wanting picture perfect but sometimes some people want content like this too, raw and heartbreaking. Consume media as that, fiction, which you can criticise but stop making it personal.

So please do not bring morals into a show as complex as this, trying to show you how people make mistakes and how they try to fix those mistakes. If you want to shout about morals why not about shows that are showing domestic abuse rn and some having concepts worse than that.
Just accept your morals are subjective to who or what you like, or just based on some skewed perception of the label of marriage that keeps changing according to what you like. I do not ignore Malini is wronged, I accept she wasted her 7 years for nothing. But I don’t make that a focus of my raging forever. Because she will have a journey of her own dealing with that which I am excited for as she is a character I really like. Adi made mistakes but that doesn’t mean he should be made to live with them forever, that leaves no one happy. There is nothing wrong with people not wanting to live in misery forever just for the sake of someone else.


It will remain a tragedy, how such a good show will be underrated and bashed for no reason because we can’t consume media critically anymore and can’t distinguish between fiction and reality, can’t raise our voices where it’s actually needed. Our idea of morals has really become convoluted. I for one, am glad they didn’t pull a make the third angle villain and are showing a human being with emotions. The whole story is about good people making bad decisions, human emotions and unfortunate circumstances and overcoming that, no villains. It’s not everyone’s cup of tea but please give it a try before bashing without watching or watching for a character and ignoring their journey for how you want to see them. Enjoy the show, analyse it, it’s entertainment not something your life depends on if you don’t hate for whatever reason. Watch what you love and let others watch what they love. Hope this show gains the recognition it so deserves for the spectacular performances, runs for a decent amount of time however long they need to tell the story and remains successful.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Well said. You have already highlighted the gist pretty much!

I have a slightly different opinion about Malini, but agree on the whole about how morality should really stop being subjective to whatever show you are watching at the moment.

I hope they continue giving the kind of airtight character progression they have been giving so far.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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How I see the characters:

Malini: A product of a toxic home life, bickering parents who never taught her how to deal with conflict but conflict was present everywhere around her and that left her weak and unable to deal with it, only wanting a picture perfect life and ignoring if something goes wrong. It’s not right to criticise her for being weak. That is not her fault. Sometimes she unintentionally emotionally manipulates e.g. making scenes yet saying she doesn’t want to make a scene but that’s not her fault either. She tends to forgive adi easily as she doesn’t want to lose the safe haven she has in him and his family and because she loves him. That is a flaw as she doesn’t stand up for herself just to have a perfect life. But she is a good woman with these deeper shades to her which makes her a good character, just someone who’ll have an unfortunate storyline, that doesn’t mean you make the whole story about her miseries. Her journey will be overcoming these with her own parallel storyline and gaining her strength. She was never the show’s focus and was never meant to have a romantic storyline. Accept that. Accept having someone be your favourite and having their story be of healing rather than romance. P.S. please makers don’t give her the extra mahaan storyline of ishti and definitely not the end of that, she is such a human character with different shades let her be like that.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: spelano.ws

How I see the characters:

Malini: A product of a toxic home life, bickering parents who never taught her how to deal with conflict but conflict was present everywhere around her and that left her weak and unable to deal with it, only wanting a picture perfect life and ignoring if something goes wrong. It’s not right to criticise her for being weak. That is not her fault. Sometimes she unintentionally emotionally manipulates e.g. making scenes yet saying she doesn’t want to make a scene but that’s not her fault either. She tends to forgive adi easily as she doesn’t want to lose the safe haven she has in him and his family and because she loves him. That is a flaw as she doesn’t stand up for herself just to have a perfect life. But she is a good woman with these deeper shades to her which makes her a good character, just someone who’ll have an unfortunate storyline, that doesn’t mean you make the whole story about her miseries. Her journey will be overcoming these with her own parallel storyline and gaining her strength. She was never the show’s focus and was never meant to have a romantic storyline. Accept that. Accept having someone be your favourite and having their story be of healing rather than romance. P.S. please makers don’t give her the extra mahaan storyline of ishti and definitely not the end of that, she is such a human character with different shades let her be like that.


Imlie: That girl has gone through the most in this show. First, having to hear god knows what horrible things because of what her father did and how he abandoned her and then being constantly insulted by aditya without any fault of hers, being forcefully married off having her whole youth stolen and not even being respected by her husband. And now, she’ll have to bear the tags of the other woman and a home breaker when she is not one. The only reason she is strong is because of the strenth satyakam and meethi’s love gave her, which anu and dev could never give malini. Her upbringing made her devoted to her marriage and watching aditya stand up for her people and his values made her love him. She is his wife but she is unable to express that, she has to hide all symbols of the marriage and live as a servant in his home. She is not a servant, she pretends for malini and aditya’s sake, she is an intelligent brave girl meant for more but her flaw is her love whether it be for adi or mallu messes with how she makes her decisions. The environment and circumstances she grew up in make her think it’s okay for aditya to have another wife and her rights be naam ke only. She’ll learn soon enough it’s not and then she’ll have to go through a journey of overcoming the guilt she feels for mun. She’ll have a hard life, just because she’ll have guy doesn’t mean it’s all easy for her.


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Posted: 4 years ago
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Good post. I agree with your overall points about the show and how it's been obvious from day one that Adi-Imlie are the main pair especially with Piya Tose playing on every scene of theirs, so all this sudden hate being poured on them because of whatever preconceived notions some people developed is odd to say the least.


I also agree with the fundamental premise that all the characters are struggling in their own way to do the right thing....some are weak about one thing, some are weak about others.


I do disagree with you about Malini because I feel the makers have dropped the ball on her a while back in trying to balance her faults with her positives.....she's ended up being rendered superficial in many ways....which is worse than being "good" or "bad".....when you end up looking like a fake person, that's usually where the disconnect starts. I don't personally go around bashing her for the sake of it but I've definitely lost sympathy for her on many counts right now because of her superficial behavior with Imlie and her general self-absorption. I know they will try to rehabilitate her in the long run as a mahaan sacrificing person whenever she learns the truth but I'll be honest that I've mostly lost interest in her journey at this point.


Adi-Imlie are more interesting to watch with their flaws but yes, Malini will likely remain a foil in their journey in some way or the other for a long time.


Overall, yes, it would be nice if people watched a show for the story rather than imposing their own preferences onto the show and extrapolating accordingly. I personally watch this for the high quality storytelling, especially in crafting Adi-Imlie's relationship.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Well written piece. I was a bit afraid to open thinking it was another of those posts that has been posted of late here in this forum.


glad that it was not the case. Nothing is ever black and white and it is the individual's journey that is being portrayed here and how they deal with those decisions. The 3 leads in this show are shown navigating a complex relationship, with their principles and upbringing anchoring them, that is what makes this so unique and adorable. The fact that the leads - Adilie have crackling chemistry adds another layer to the show. The casting is superb and the fresh story telling is addictive.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: spelano.ws


Imlie: That girl has gone through the most in this show. First, having to hear god knows what horrible things because of what her father did and how he abandoned her and then being constantly insulted by aditya without any fault of hers, being forcefully married off having her whole youth stolen and not even being respected by her husband. And now, she’ll have to bear the tags of the other woman and a home breaker when she is not one. The only reason she is strong is because of the strenth satyakam and meethi’s love gave her, which anu and dev could never give malini. Her upbringing made her devoted to her marriage and watching aditya stand up for her people and his values made her love him. She is his wife but she is unable to express that, she has to hide all symbols of the marriage and live as a servant in his home. She is not a servant, she pretends for malini and aditya’s sake, she is an intelligent brave girl meant for more but her flaw is her love whether it be for adi or mallu messes with how she makes her decisions. The environment and circumstances she grew up in make her think it’s okay for aditya to have another wife and her rights be naam ke only. She’ll learn soon enough it’s not and then she’ll have to go through a journey of overcoming the guilt she feels for mun. She’ll have a hard life, just because she’ll have guy doesn’t mean it’s all easy for her.



Wanted all this in the original but it wouldn't let me post it and said sp am, still not letting me post Aditya one lol and that was the most important one

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Posted: 4 years ago
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First time, posting here. Started seeing the show because people have praised the storyline, the characters in terms of complexity in simplicity phenomenon by friends and family.

I beg to differ in terms of Malini's character development because she's grown up with insecurities that she apparently is oblivious/delusional towards. However, her own mother, Anu chaturvedi has that insecurity factor completely encompass with passing time.

I think people should allow the CVs to develop the story because it just ruins the original core which has been consistent even though there's been some ups and downs, something that is not uncommon in ITV. Just watch the show for what it is depicting.

No human is perfect in this world, but growing from mistakes genuinely and emotionally is far more important. Also, technically Imlie is his first wife and Aditya has attempted to confide about this matter with Malini but she fell unconscious showing her inability to comprehend her husband. Also, even in the present phase, it is her insecurity that is making her behave and making me and my beloved one, lose sympathy overtime.

Simple rule: if you don't like a show, switch the channel to something you like. No need to do comparisons, let the show showcase what it wants to showcase.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: AreYaar

Good post. I agree with your overall points about the show and how it's been obvious from day one that Adi-Imlie are the main pair especially with Piya Tose playing on every scene of theirs, so all this sudden hate being poured on them because of whatever preconceived notions some people developed is odd to say the least.


I also agree with the fundamental premise that all the characters are struggling in their own way to do the right thing....some are weak about one thing, some are weak about others.


I do disagree with you about Malini because I feel the makers have dropped the ball on her a while back in trying to balance her faults with her positives.....she's ended up being rendered superficial in many ways....which is worse than being "good" or "bad".....when you end up looking like a fake person, that's usually where the disconnect starts. I don't personally go around bashing her for the sake of it but I've definitely lost sympathy for her on many counts right now because of her superficial behavior with Imlie and her general self-absorption. I know they will try to rehabilitate her in the long run as a mahaan sacrificing person whenever she learns the truth but I'll be honest that I've mostly lost interest in her journey at this point.


Adi-Imlie are more interesting to watch with their flaws but yes, Malini will likely remain a foil in their journey in some way or the other for a long time.


Overall, yes, it would be nice if people watched a show for the story rather than imposing their own preferences onto the show and extrapolating accordingly. I personally watch this for the high quality storytelling, especially in crafting Adi-Imlie's relationship.


I really like Malini and I do have hopes for her character, I think her character flaws are harder to notice with how much they only focus on the bechaari aspect but someone who relates to her in some ways I can notice them easier. If they end up focusing on her bechari aspect and make her some mahaan character instead of giving her the anger and mistrust she's got a right to, even I'll be forced to give up on her character then. But as of now, I think they're handling it well.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Don't give advise this is serial not real life now we are in 2021 . Serial ko serial jaise dekho. Ekta kapoor serials eka bar dekho kithene shadi hote hai heroine ko. Agar o sub serials hit ieto e serial kyon nahi. Please don't post damage messages regarding serial. If u interested you can see otherwise don't

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