Sai's views on her marriage to Virat - Page 5

Originally posted by: jankiraghav

I feel that the reason why he never really acknowledged his "connection" with Sai as "attraction" was because of the awkwardness of their relation (acquaintance) -- she was his Guru's daughter and really, really young - an HSC student. He was definitely not looking for a girl that young to marry at that point. He called his attraction/pull he felt towards her "connection", which was formed from the fact that he was impressed by her intelligence and her bravery, to begin with. But he kept calling her "bachchi" because it was too awkward to have 'romantic feelings' for her or allow that attraction to happen at that point.

I always thought that Virat's basis for his 'connection' with Sai was her fierce loyalty and undying love for her father. He is impressed with her immense capacity for love - probably it came from his own sub-conscious need/yearning for unconditional love - growing up in his toxic family. We hear him say multiple times to Kamal Joshi that "Sir, woh aapse bahut pyaar karti hai". It piques his interest first and he begins observing her - and the other qualities that he sees in her eg. bravery, intelligence etc cements that connection.

Also I have a confusion over what that 'connection' is. Till now I has always thought that Virat felt a platonic soul connection to Sai . It happens to us in real life where we are pulled towards a person (man/woman) within a small time of knowing them. It happens very rarely, but its not really romantic. But after reading what you have written, I'm reminded of how all of a sudden, soon after his marriage, during the reception, he gazes at her mesmerized by her beauty. So was his feelings not really platonic in GC - did he just never allowed himself to think of her that way because she was too young?

P.S : Missing your daily updates 😭. I'm actually more addicted to your analysis than the show itself.

Originally posted by: laksh

When the villagers force her to get married, she realizes that she cannot rely on anybody in the world to take her responsibility. So perhaps she might have accepted the marriage since she trusts Virat. But Virat's "ummeed mat rakhna" squashed that possibility.

@bold hmm, it is this which I never thought of. I thought she wouldn't have thought these and had confidence in herself to lead her life alone, ofcourse with Usha Maushi.

I believe she was in a vulnerable place. Her support system had been suddenly snatched away. So it was natural that she must have felt over-whelmed and alone. So she might have had self-doubts - about her ability to deal with her sudden vulnerable position.

Whether she would have eventually found her way out of it if Virat had not married her? I strongly believe so, but it would have taken time (just my assessment). As other IF members have pointed out before - Virat's presence in her life made the grieving process quicker and gave her some sense of security.

Originally posted by: laksh

Hi all,

Did Sai want to get married to Virat?

Please cast your votes for this question.

In addition to this, can I have views on the below please?

Virat said Sai that he wasn't marrying Sai because the villagers was pressurising him. He was marrying her because it was his duty and he wanted to take her responsibility.

Let us assume that the villagers blamed Virat that he did not fulfill the promise he made to Kamal sir after Sai's suicide attempt, but they did not go to his house, the morning he woke up from the dream where he rescued Sai, would Virat have still thought of marrying Sai?

And if Virat still wanted to marry Sai for her safety and if there was no pressure from villagers, would Sai have accepted to marry Virat?

Let us say they did pressurise Virat and Sai as in the show, did Sai really mean when she asked Virat to say no to the marriage?

Was her request to him to backoff from the marriage genuine or not?

And if it her request was genuine, does it mean that Sai never cared if Virat was or not offering to provide her support?

Please do drop in your comments.

I m believer virat would had never married sai if she had not gone through a very weak moment of suicide.

Yes virat was attracted to sai but that attraction was never of marriage kind off as attraction bhi bahut tarah ke hote hain. Virat got emotionally connected with sai & emotional connection is much stronger than any physical connection.

Initially he refused to marry sai but after suicide he realises sai can't be left on her own she needs a family which she lost , virat don't want to loose his connection with her, if virat would had left GC somehow he may think a way to stay connected with her.

Regarding sai thou d lady blamed virat in moment of sadness but some where she want virat to be in GC& in her life Coz she feel secure with virat coz of d time they spent together & hold a thinking that virat has answer for her miseries.

Regarding sai wanting to marry virat , no she don't wanted to marry virat , it was not in her mind . She was sensing GC people trying to get rid of her when she learned virat agreed 4 marriage she storm off to him saying to back off Coz initially she thought due to marriage talks virat left & now when he is back villager again forcing him but when virat said he himself is ready 4 it no force then she questions why coz she dont wanted to be burden on him like GC people made her feel by their constant attempt of getting rid of her thou virat's t & c broke her heart coz somewhere she don't want to share virat with anyone as she is possessive for him & she did not wanted to be in loveless relationship coz like any other girl she 2 dreamt a normal marriage.

Sai lost her vision towards her dream to become a doctor but coz virat she got het vision back towards her dreams.

Initially When virat was pushing pakhi down sai's throat ( it was damn irritating ) when he was trying to make pakhi her mentor , for sai it looks like virat wanting to get rid of her so he is shifting her to other person like GC people which made her irritated 4 sure.

Virat had always admired kamal sir & Sai's bond , which he lacks in his life .

Originally posted by: jankiraghav

In addition to this, can I have views on the below please?

Virat said Sai that he wasn't marrying Sai because the villagers was pressurising him. He was marrying her because it was his duty and he wanted to take her responsibility.

Let us assume that the villagers blamed Virat that he did not fulfill the promise he made to Kamal sir after Sai's suicide attempt, but they did not go to his house, the morning he woke up from the dream where he rescued Sai, would Virat have still thought of marrying Sai?

I believe that visit from the villagers that morning was not the deciding factor for him. He had already decided to marry her. His dream was just his subconscious playing out his emotion that he was unaware of. Her suicide had rattled him -- not as much the 'guilt' but empathy and, of course, the fact that he felt a connection with her and did not want to lose her (to something like suicide).

I agree with you. My views too. You have explained it with the right points.

I do agree that he felt a connection with her but I am not able to understand if he considered that as well while thinking of marrying her.

But again, it could have been one of the factors why he was very clear that he will marry her even when she kept asking him to back off.

Also, this connection was the reason why her disinterest in the marriage irked him 😆.

@bold ❤❤ love how you have rightly worded it as empathy and not as guilt

The idea of the 'marriage' had been sown in his head because the villagers assumed that Kamal Joshi meant "marriage" by khayal rakhna. I also believe that Kamal Joshi did not mean marriage but he did mean that Virat would have to be her go-to person and reach out to her even if she wasn't. But for that "right" that Kamal Joshi gave him to have social acceptance, marriage would eventually be the only way out.

Very true and I agree to this as well. I too don't think Kamal Joshi wanted Virat to marry Sai but this was the only way for Virat.

As you have worded it aptly, to be able to fulfill his responsibility/promise given to Kamal sir "social acceptance" was needed, otherwise he wouldn't have been able to take her with him to Nagpur and villagers would have never allowed him to take her with him without getting married to her.

And if Virat still wanted to marry Sai for her safety and if there was no pressure from villagers, would Sai have accepted to marry Virat?

If there was no pressure from villagers, they would not have married at that moment itself because I doubt Virat would have thought of marrying her immediately as they had to due to the circumstances they were in. He thought of marrying her only because of the pressure.

I agree, Virat didn't even agree the first time they proposed whether or not Sai was for it, if not for the suicide attempt, he wouldn't have considered it.

I meant to ask if they had not pressurised Sai the way they did, wouldn't Sai have put up a fight with them and Virat and refuse to marry? I felt that if he had proposed to marry her after her suicide attempt and if villagers were not this stern with Sai, Sai would have said no.

It is more to do with my first question. Just like how I had asked if villagers did not go to his house that morning, what if Villagers also did not push Sai much?

I feel that the reason why he never really acknowledged his "connection" with Sai as "attraction" was because of the awkwardness of their relation (acquaintance) -- she was his Guru's daughter and really, really young - an HSC student. He was definitely not looking for a girl that young to marry at that point. He called his attraction/pull he felt towards her "connection", which was formed from the fact that he was impressed by her intelligence and her bravery, to begin with. But he kept calling her "bachchi" because it was too awkward to have 'romantic feelings' for her or allow that attraction to happen at that point.

😆😆 I agree, he felt a pull but his moral values/decent guy that he was didn't allow him to name that pull. As you have said she was his guru's daughter, a girl who had just finished her schooling. And as you have said, would have been too awkard for him to think of her in any other way.

You have elaborated his 'connection' very well ❤❤

If you ask me -- Sai was actually the woman he would have chosen for her qualities if she was older when they met. He fell for Patralekha's beauty (misled by his best friend, actually to call it "love") and the fact that she was of his age, seemingly demure and would get "approval" from the family as "bahu" because they were from a similar background and culture. But Patralekha did not/does not have the qualities that Virat needs in his wife.

I agree, I think I once created a post asking this. What if Virat had met Sai first and met Pakhi at Samrat's wedding not as his bride. I got replies that Virat would have fallen for Pakhi even then. I wasn't too convinced anyway.

But in a way they are true and I too feel (have a mixed feeling) that if he had met Virat and Sai at around the same time, though Sai has many good qualities, he might have felt Pakhi to be more suited to his family even if Sai was older when he met. But again, he would have been in conflict, even if he had agreed to get married to Pakhi, he might have fallen for Sai, would have been inevitable. I had planned to write a fan fiction on this actually 😆

To come back to your question, if there was no immediate pressure -- the question of marriage would not arise. It would have taken him time to accept that he was falling in love with the child-woman and wanted to make her his wife... right now the marriage has meant she's already the 'wife' so falling in love is easier. But as he would have known Sai and Sai would have known him, they would have definitely married out of will and not out of deal.

I agree, I think I didn't phrase my question right. I have asked it above and copying it below.

I meant to ask if they had not pressurised Sai the way they did, wouldn't Sai have put up a fight with them and Virat and refuse to marry? I felt that if he had proposed to marry her after her suicide attempt and if villagers were not this stern with Sai, Sai would have said no.

It is more to do with my first question. Just like how I had asked if villagers did not go to his house that morning, what if Villagers also did not push Sai much?

Virat's part was covered in my question, this id for Sai. I believe she wouldn't have agreed and would have refused if she had not seen them so keen to get her married to Virat.

Let us say they did pressurise Virat and Sai as in the show, did Sai really mean when she asked Virat to say no to the marriage? Was her request to him to backoff from the marriage genuine or not?

Yes, it was genuine. She did not have marriage on her mind. She did not want to be carted away by the villagers and thrust on to someone like an extra bag. She was aware he had someone called "Pakhi" in his life and so she did not know why was he even marrying her. She always wanted to have a "husband" like any other girl would, which is seen from her conversations with Aaba and not a namesake husband. But more than that, it was her self-respect that was stopping her from accepting it and asking him to run away.

I agree, my views too.

About the "husband" part. I thought she never thought about these, just told her Dad that she will only get married to a person who will allow her Dad fo stay with them. May be I am pwrong.

And if it her request was genuine, does it mean that Sai never cared if Virat was or not offering to provide her support?

Sai did not think that he needed to marry her for "support".

I agree, my view too.

She would have been fine even if he had helped her settle in Nagpur and get admission into medical college. I don't think she did not care about his offer -- her conversation with him in his house when she asked him questions about his decision is significant. She did not want to marry someone who did not love her. Her question was direct: "Why are you marrying me?"

"Because everyone loves you"

"But you don't love me. Do you?"

He did not answer that question and she waited almost as if she wanted to hear "yes". We cannot deny that she did also feel a 'connection' with him.

I agree, she wanted to know why he wanted to marry her. Also, when he said

"Nafrat bhi kahaan karta hoon" she then asked

"Pakhi ka kya?"

She was very hurt as soon as he said he was only taking her responsibility and that he can never be her husband and he has promised someone else to not give that position to anyone else in his life.

I had given details of these and Sai's thoughts and her feelings for Virat in Sai's feelimgs post of 4040_usernotfound post.

It was this hurt that made her act indifferent immediately. She didn't want to compromise on her self respect.

I also believe that it was this hurt, rejection and disappointment which had made her resolve strong. It is not just the commitment that she thinks Virat has for Pakhi, she doesn't want to develop any such feelings again for him and that is why her walls are this high.

If she never felt any pull for him or didn't get hurt during this conversation in GC, I feel Sai wouldn't be able to suppress her feelings the way she is doing now. She once made a mistake in developing some unknown connection with him and after he has spoken about it explicitly, why will she allow herself to fall for him? Just my views.

She knew a lot about him because Aaba would keep talking about him. She was waiting to meet him in Gadchiroli because Aaba had told her that he would come and be the reason why they would finally head to Nagpur. She did not disbelieve that Aaba made a dying wish to him to take care of her because Aaba would have definitely done that.

I know, on the day she was leaving to PD sirs house, she only meant about marriage part, because from what she knows, no one told her that her Dad wanted him to marry her.

She always thought that the marriage idea was brought by the villagers and that is why she said that Virat was lying when he said he married her because of her Dad. (After the ehsaan faramosh dialogue)

That is why she asked what ehsaan, her understanding was that he was fulfiling his responsibility and keeping the promise made to her Dad.

The day she was about to leave to DIG office too, she was very clear in telling him that it was his choice of whether he wants to keep the promise made to her Dad or not.

She knew he had stayed back for her although he had already decided to leave for Nagpur -- that thought in itself was some kind of consolation. Her thought process after Aaba's death was an indication that she already had thought of Virat as the only other go-to person in the world after Aaba -- exactly what he was.

I know, I agree.

How much ever she was blaming him and growing angry on him, she needed him.

I have mentioned in the other post as how she called out his name when he was about to leave her room before he started to Nagpur because she wanted him to be there with her. She did feel restless but she couldn't understand it. He was there with her in the safehouse and this time too she wanted him to be there.

@bold I agree

I love how you have used go-to person in the world. After her Aaba, it was and is Maushi and him.

She did not dream of marrying him but after Aaba, he was already the only person she trusted, even when Aaba was alive. And with Aaba gone and the so-called family not willing to keep her, it was only Virat, who was ready to be there for her. She did not want to marry him but when it came to that as it did, she married him with her heart -- and with a thorn pierced in that heart that he will still not be her 'husband'.

I agree, my views too.

@bold beautifully worded/described her feelings.

Please do drop in your comments.

Thanks for sharing your views Janki ❤❤. I have replied in green.

Originally posted by: Andy3456

She didn't want to marry because of the age but she agreed because of the security part. Didn't want to marry and agreeing to marry has a difference..she was forced by the circumstances to agree to marry because she saw no other way. She didn't want to marry him immediately but when she saw the villagers are almost pressurising her to get married, she wanted to marry Virat, not any other person. If it wasn't Virat but some random stranger, she won't have married in any way. But with Virat she felt secure and trusted him enough to get married with him.

She didn't want to get married but she wanted to marry Virat.

"she was forced by the circumstances to agree to marry because she saw no other way"

So, if not for the circumstances, she wouldn't have agreed to marry even if it was Virat. Is it not true?

@bold I agree

Thanks for commenting ❤❤

Originally posted by: jane_austen

Hey Lakshmi 🤗

Jane Austen is one of my favourite authors. Hence the user name 😆

Hi Shalini,

I could gather that 😆😆. How do you want us to address you as Jane or Shalini 😆?

Originally posted by: laksh

"she was forced by the circumstances to agree to marry because she saw no other way"

So, if not for the circumstances, she wouldn't have agreed to marry even if it was Virat. Is it not true?

@bold I agree

Thanks for commenting ❤❤

Obviously who want to get married at that age. She was attracted to him, but husband is a different thing. May be in future she may have agreed to marry, but at not that situation I agree.

But then she didn't have any other way, she had to agree. Because she knew if not Virat , she would have been married to a random stranger.

Originally posted by: laksh

Hi Shalini,

I could gather that 😆😆. How do you want us to address you as Jane or Shalini 😆?

As much as I would like to pretend that I'm Jane Austen ☺️, Shalini will be good.👍🏼😊

Originally posted by: jane_austen

As much as I would like to pretend that I'm Jane Austen ☺️, Shalini will be good.👍🏼😊

Hi shalini😊

Originally posted by: hedwig_potter

Let us assume that the villagers blamed Virat that he did not fulfill the promise he made to Kamal sir after Sai's suicide attempt, but they did not go to his house, the morning he woke up from the dream where he rescued Sai, would Virat have still thought of marrying Sai?

Well, several people have already said this, in a way I am just agreeing with what has already been said. Although when Virat promised KJ he did not have marriage in his mind. And KJ too did not mean financial support or marriage (in that particular sense of the word), he meant as a friend. The idea of marriage was put forth by the villagers. But as to agreeing to marriage, pressure from villagers did not have much (if at all) to do with it. That decision was taken by Virat alone (because of dream, suicide and whatever else he was thinking), he did not simply succumb to pressure. So, yes he would have married her even if not one visited him that morning.

Right, I agree, I believe the same.

@bold Exactly!

And if Virat still wanted to marry Sai for her safety and if there was no pressure from villagers, would Sai have accepted to marry Virat?

If it was Sai's decision alone, then no she wouldn't have accepted.

Although, without any pressure from other villagers, say Usha Maushi or Virat alone in some way or the other managed to convince her that marriage was the only way to keep her safe, then I think she would have accepted.

@bold I believe the same.

Let us say they did pressurise Virat and Sai as in the show, did Sai really mean when she asked Virat to say no to the marriage?

Was her request to him to backoff from the marriage genuine or not?

Frankly speaking, I think by that point Sai had started trusting Virat and in a way was starting to entertain the idea of marriage.

I see.

So because of those reasons, when she asked him to run away, she was also willing to marry him(because of circumstances). Yet, her request was very much genuine, because as others have already pointed out she did not want to be burden on anyone nor did she want to even risk tying him in an unwanted relationship. By that point, she was willing to marry him, but she wanted him to be sure, and if he had any uncertainty about marriage, she would rather him back out, than marry her unwillingly. When she asked Pakhi ka kya she was making sure he has though it through and not doing this because of villagers, because if that is the case, she wouldn't marry him, security be damned.

I agree, my views too.

@bold 👏👏👏

And if it her request was genuine, does it mean that Sai never cared if Virat was or not offering to provide her support?

Like I said she was starting to entertain the idea of marriage. But she wanted to make sure Virat was not doing this because of pressure. She would never let herself be a burden, hence she was already prepared to look after herself if it turns out that she won't be marrying Virat.

Right, I agree

@bold 👍👏 👏👏

Thanks for sharing your views ❤❤. I Have replied in green.