Jealous waale Babusahib - Page 10

Originally posted by: naadanmasakalli

That is when she invites random people for dinner and he yells at her and goes paagal karke hi chodongi humein 😆 it is used in lot of scenes as his FB too like the GUNSHOT

Lol that was good one. He does yell at her badly in this episode and decides to send her back. I was watching #20, where she writes a poem and Aparna says - Imlie aditya ki pehli pasand hai. The guy is gobsmacked. His heart liked her back in PD too, there was a connect that was established between them. Now Aparna's words are prophetic, she meant with respect to the poem to be published in his wedding card, yahan BS ke hosh hi udd gaye abhi in PD. 🤣 Ekdum deewana ban gaya.

He used the word pasand in PD with his alter ego too. Pasand is the word now. 😆

Seeing the episode a second time - Imlie meted out, unintentionally, the same exact treatment to Aditya that he subjects her to when she’s in his house. One of close to total neglect. While she was busy going about trying to do whatever she needs to do for her exams/ studies, she did not recognize his presence. She did not get angry/ insult him etc but she even delegated the task of giving him food to her mother. Not that he has ever needed Malini to do that for him or even Imlie for that matter but she walked out without even looking at him or speaking to him.

His anger had built up long before he saw Imlie and Prakash together. Watching them goof around with such familiarity was the last straw.

Originally posted by: MuteButton

Oh yes! Noticed it during the episode itself. Everything that he thought was alien to his nature, he has done only on Imlie’s beckoning. She has exposed him to himself in a lot of ways and he is yet to see it completely for what it is. And he believes in her potential more than she herself does. These two are a whole other world within themselves in that sense.

Ooh yes!

At Dilhi, he was mainly focused on Millani, and she was taken by granted, she was not that much interested in him, she was most of the time interacting with the family and Milani didi.

But since he is in PG, He is full in focusing on her, so she is ignoring him, her playing around with Parakash and others, without noticing he is around, because the poor thing thinks that he is not interested in her, and she used to it! This situation is eating him inside and creating the jealousy feeling in him! Which he never felt with Milani becose he took their relation for granted! And it really doesn't make any difference with him!

Originally posted by: AreYaar

Beautifully explained, Pam👏. You've broken down each phase of the argument very well.....yes, it was a mix of aspects from Adi's side....his knee-jerk reaction to the jealousy, trying to "solution" by packing Imlie off to Prakash, then trying to justify it to himself as well that he can never give Imlie anything, so it's better she be with someone who can.....and then yes, adding in his standard reminder more to HIMSELF than to her that they need to agree this relationship is illegal, it has no standing.

Yes, she humbled him the day of the SR argument as well but the big notable difference from then to now is that even back then, he ran away, he literally left the hut again stating he's ok with dying😆....but he can't stay there with her....but this time IMLIE walked away😆.

It's not the first time that Imlie has countered his arguments.....but he's usually found ways to walk away from the conversation or compartmentalize it.....this was the first time he couldn't do it to that extent and yes, as you put it correctly, she took the wind out of his sails big time.

@bold: WORD. That is it in a nutshell....Imlie named it his sharam but the sharam was coming from fear which as you said, was a defense mechanism to defend his own values.....and Imlie cut to the heart of it.....he looked dazed after hearing her put it in such stark terms. I don't think anyone has handled him quite like that before and he didn't know what to say in response to someone cutting to the core of his fear and the deflections he uses like this.

These big arguments they have are actually a form of communication that Adi-Malini could never develop because again, to Adi, where there is "bharosa", supposedly you never disagree and never argue😆.....this fundamental misunderstanding of emotions and relationships is the reason Adi is in this current mess.

These arguments build on the understanding between Adi-Imlie cuz no matter what the catalyst, what the reason for the argument, the disagreement, it ends up helping either one or both of them understand each other's mindset and what's going on in it.

In some ways, I wish this argument hadn't become public fodder.....lol cuz then it gave Adi the convenient excuse to do a big public declaration again about how she's his wife and he will always be with her.....it sort of then skipped over the fallout of this argument....and there was again a sense of whiplash that two minutes before he had said yet again this relationship is "illegal", now he's saying she's his wife, he's with her willingly, she's his need etc. etc......so it just rendered all his big words moot yet again😆

Regarding, Malini and Aditya, what a clarity that scene gave. It really brought forth the point that there were no emotions involved from Aditya's side. It was almost a convenience, a checkbox in life that GF honi chahiye, to hain. Now GF hain, then he has to meet her but other than that he was doing his own thing and was not bothered about nor wanted to know what she was doing in her life. It was just one more relationship that he had to maintain with all the rest, without emotionally getting involved. Its really surprising that he did not want to be involved in any professional/personal life of Malini, a person he claims to love(I hope he knows what subject she teaches), but is so passionate about Imlie's padaai. Anyways, at least the comparison has started in his mind.

@bold 2 :He is using that as a defense right? NN gave him a reason to not ponder over the things that Imlie pointed out and he conveniently put them in a box. He is using all this big words in public with the justification that he is doing this to save Imlie from the "gaonwalas" but by not agreeing to it in private, he is still being loyal to his "asli" rishta. But the more he delays, the more he is going to suffer. The thing is by using this "illegal" tag, he is helping in building walls in Imlie's mind that she needs to be alone in this relationship, and Aditya belongs to Malini. That going to be another mountain that he will have to cross when the time comes.

I think we will keep getting this flip flop for some time now. He needs to consciously experience these new feelings in the old environment (with Malini in Delhi) which would be the first step toward acceptance. The comparison has started but right now its with the past memories of Malini. When he is in Delhi and when it happens in the present time, that's when it will actually start kicking in that how wrong his understanding was of a majority of things. Denial will still be there but you can only lie to yourself for so long. 😊

Originally posted by: naadanmasakalli

I loved the fierceness with which she said she can look at SM in the eye and say she has no sharam caz she hasn't done anything wrong one has to see adi crumble at that point feeling embarrassed at his lie getting caught like this and that he felt embarrassed of his emotions.. the little tear that fell from his eye and him quickly wiping it off.. she really really disarmed him in that moment and bohat zyada chota feel ho gaya tha babusahib ko I guess ek sec ke liye ke indeed the hell is he doing it is really nasty..

The sharam part was intresting caz technically the poor guy hasn't done anything to be feel ashamed of for imlie or with imlie. Sharam feel karni hi hai toh maybe do it for what you did at shehar knowingly.. but yeah he feels guilty.. lol mostly for not being able to keep his emotions in control then sharam of her.. apne aap se chidh ke uspe frustration nikalta hai.. am glad that Imlie.said jab kuch galat kia nahi toh sharam kaisi.. that she will not shy away no matter how much he pushes her away caz uske mann main koi khoot nahi hai ek dum saaf hai uska mann and all this.will not change her belief that he is indeed her pati and will remain for lifelong

@ her feeling bhoj.. well adi isn't making it any better with his zabardasti ke yeh sab gair kanooni hai humare beech kuch nahi ho sakta yada yada again ... and jitna bhi kuch thoda better karta hai he goes and paani pheros on it the very next moment and then get mad when she tells him.to leave and blocks his pleading.. bro you aren't helping your cause how is she supposed to take you seriously uss bechari ko ek min itnaaa soft hoke pleading karta hai then shuns her what is she supposed to do other than feeling yeh sab ek naya drama hai but ek naatak and kuch serious nahi hai.. no wonder she has almost stopped giving him those shayad pighal rahi hai looks too and now has put a more stoic done with you face.. caz everyday you just above and beyond in making her feel she was right I leaving kuch na kuch garbed karke

@bold: And that's the thing na....yes, he had tears in his eyes when Imlie cut him down to size in that argument....but I didn't really feel sympathy for him....I felt satisfaction more than anything cuz as usual, he killed whatever little goodwill he generated by talking all the crap that he did. In his need to defend his own "values" to himself, he consistently insults HER.....and then makes it worse by lying to pretend he's doing it from a place of "goodwill".....the MEHERBAANI angle which Imlie accurately pointed in the bike argument also. Yeah back then he was more clueless so it was easier for him to do the "meherbaani".....this time he struggled to get the words out when asking her to marry someone else and find her own husband.....but baat toh phir bhi boli hi na.....once again insulting her and trying to pass it off as a "practical" and "truthful" solution.

And as if that was not enough, then last scene mein aake marzi and zaroorat ka bhaashan maar ke phir Imlie ko aise dekh raha tha jaise isko TROPHY deni chahiye us baat ke liye.....Buzz off, Babusahib😛.....I was so glad she was just watching him with a "Oh ok one more list of meaningless declarations from him" expression😆.....she dismisses all this as his nautanki to put on a show for the villagers...and sahi bhi hai.....any sane person would view him like this only after all his flips and lying.

This is why I'm not really that moved by his on the knees apology so far in the precap either😆....the apology shouldn't just be for the "marry someone else" thing.....he's treating Imlie like some toy jisko kabhi bhi patni maan lo, kabhi bhi kisi aur ke saath pack kar do.....and because his denial and confusion is still very much active, is apology ke baad bhi aage yehi sab karta rahega kisi aur topic pe bhi jab isko next round of "baat khatam karni hai" attack hoga....lol so soon his on the knees "big apology" will then get rendered meaningless too😆.

I hope the writers are thinking through how they are tackling his flips in this phase.....yeah I get that it's a journey for him to process all this mentally and emotionally but some kind of baseline needs to be set or his character will just end up looking utterly hollow in the long run.

Originally posted by: pamk06

Regarding, Malini and Aditya, what a clarity that scene gave. It really brought forth the point that there were no emotions involved from Aditya's side. It was almost a convenience, a checkbox in life that GF honi chahiye, to hain. Now GF hain, then he has to meet her but other than that he was doing his own thing and was not bothered about nor wanted to know what she was doing in her life. It was just one more relationship that he had to maintain with all the rest, without emotionally getting involved. Its really surprising that he did not want to be involved in any professional/personal life of Malini, a person he claims to love(I hope he knows what subject she teaches), but is so passionate about Imlie's padaai. Anyways, at least the comparison has started in his mind.

@bold 2 :He is using that as a defense right? NN gave him a reason to not ponder over the things that Imlie pointed out and he conveniently put them in a box. He is using all this big words in public with the justification that he is doing this to save Imlie from the "gaonwalas" but by not agreeing to it in private, he is still being loyal to his "asli" rishta. But the more he delays, the more he is going to suffer. The thing is by using this "illegal" tag, he is helping in building walls in Imlie's mind that she needs to be alone in this relationship, and Aditya belongs to Malini. That going to be another mountain that he will have to cross when the time comes.

I think we will keep getting this flip flop for some time now. He needs to consciously experience these new feelings in the old environment (with Malini in Delhi) which would be the first step toward acceptance. The comparison has started but right now its with the past memories of Malini. When he is in Delhi and when it happens in the present time, that's when it will actually start kicking in that how wrong his understanding was of a majority of things. Denial will still be there but you can only lie to yourself for so long. 😊

Yeah, based on the way they showed him comparing his feelings for Malini with Imlie in this epi, it did seem like the writers are opening the door to a new phase.....that of Adi actively comparing the two.....yeah he's generally a 0 or 100 kinda guy but this realization doesn't seem like it's going to go that way.....it would be too quick a jump from him thinking one time about how he feels differently for Imlie v/s how he ever managed to feel for Malini and directly jump to a full realization.....7 years of delusions....heck his whole life of delusions will take time to be broken down I guess.

Right now the truth is knocking at the door of his mind but as he told Imlie also, he will keep denying it....in that sense, as Fary said in one of her posts too....lol it's quite something that he does end up blurting out some honest things about how he will conduct his denial even as he's building his castle of lies overall😆.

Re: NN giving him a reason....yeah I also think it was another one of those events where luck favored him to make him a "hero" instead of the villain😆.....problem started cuz of him only when he lashed out at Imlie....but end mein hero ban gaya kyunki sabke saamne badi declarations kar di to support her when he only was the one to call their marriage illegal.....lol yeah ok maybe he also felt some sense of "realization" as he was saying zaroorat....but unless he follows up on thinking about it, confirming it in the next epi, it will be another one of those things that get rendered pointless as something he just said in the moment😆.

I think the walls are already up pretty clearly in Imlie's mind vis a vis considering him belonging to Malini.....she's already resigned herself to managing it all alone.....he's done an effective job with all the Malini PDA, taking Malini's name after the snakebite....lol and then yes, never leaving a chance to call the marriage illegal. Some days back we were discussing in one of the threads maybe that he wants Imlie to call him her pati.....well, has he ever said to Imlie's face ki TUM humaari patni ho? 😆.....he goes around telling all manner of random strangers ki Imlie uski patni hai....bas Imlie ko kabhi nahin bolta....cuz telling Imlie would be like admitting it to himself....she's that mirror for him right now that he wants to hide from......so sorry Babusahib, you don't get a cookie for telling 10 villagers that Imlie is your aadat/zaroorat😆

Re: Adi-Malini scene.....yeah that is why I liked it too....it brought some clarity about the history of their relationship....and how Adi mostly treated it like another checkbox in his life which he could manage with some flowery words, milna-milaana, khaana peena......lol.....it worked cuz Malini also never asked for anything more than that....neither of them tried to form a genuine connection....they thought that was "understanding" and "space"....when infact it turned out to be disconnect.

In Imlie's case, he's forming a personal connection to everything related to her....her dreams are now becoming his dreams, he's calling her family his famliy too....the most striking thing is that he kept telling Malini for so long, "aap toh humaari hi rahengi".....but phir bhi apnapan nahin laa sakaa....while with Imlie, everything related to her is becoming his apna....he never knew what apnapan was before Imlie, basically. He couldn't even find it that much with his own family even though they are also warm/nice people....but only Imlie could teach him apnapan I suppose.

Originally posted by: AreYaar

This is why I'm not really that moved by his on the knees apology so far in the precap either😆....the apology shouldn't just be for the "marry someone else" thing.....he's treating Imlie like some toy jisko kabhi bhi patni maan lo, kabhi bhi kisi aur ke saath pack kar do.....and because his denial and confusion is still very much active, is apology ke baad bhi aage yehi sab karta rahega kisi aur topic pe bhi jab isko next round of "baat khatam karni hai" attack hoga....lol so soon his on the knees "big apology" will then get rendered meaningless too😆.

I hope the writers are thinking through how they are tackling his flips in this phase.....yeah I get that it's a journey for him to process all this mentally and emotionally but some kind of baseline needs to be set or his character will just end up looking utterly hollow in the long run.

@bold - good to know that I’m not the only one unmoved 😆 The first time I saw it, it was more about ok that is happening. On the second watch I felt it was not hitting home as it should. Hopefully the scene is extensive but let’s see.

She did bring him to his knees but if what he says is hollow/ incomplete, the gesture just becomes too cosmetic. Because he’s said he will not insult her ever again once before during the bike scene. If he’s just the remarriage part of it, that will be considered token too.

Originally posted by: MuteButton

Seeing the episode a second time - Imlie meted out, unintentionally, the same exact treatment to Aditya that he subjects her to when she’s in his house. One of close to total neglect. While she was busy going about trying to do whatever she needs to do for her exams/ studies, she did not recognize his presence. She did not get angry/ insult him etc but she even delegated the task of giving him food to her mother. Not that he has ever needed Malini to do that for him or even Imlie for that matter but she walked out without even looking at him or speaking to him.

His anger had built up long before he saw Imlie and Prakash together. Watching them goof around with such familiarity was the last straw.

LOL yes, she didn't do it deliberately but she did act casual and ignore him.....and he couldn't bear it even the ONE time she did it😆. All the other times when she's given him so much regard and importance in her life suddenly didn't matter.....all the times that HE has treated her as just one of the crowd in his house, looked through her or worse, insulted her, also suddenly didn't count....😆.....when the shoe was on the other foot, when Imlie got distracted just one time enough to not make him feel special in her life, he couldn't bear it😆.

On one hand, she did it all mainly for her studies....which he himself says she should prioritize above all else, even marriage (legal or illegal)😛😆.....but then if it comes at the cost of her looking through HIM....not even glancing at him the one time she was in a hurry, then buri baat ho gayi Babusahib? 😆

His anger built up only cuz he doesn't know why it pinched him to have Imlie look through him, to not show any concern for when he's eaten😆......HAQ nahin hai na Imlie se puchhne ka ki mujhe 2 minute toh dekh lo, baat kar lo.....mere saath khaana khaa lo😆

Originally posted by: MuteButton

@bold - good to know that I’m not the only one unmoved 😆 The first time I saw it, it was more about ok that is happening. On the second watch I felt it was not hitting home as it should. Hopefully the scene is extensive but let’s see.

She did bring him to his knees but if what he says is hollow/ incomplete, the gesture just becomes too cosmetic.

LOL yeah I also mostly had an "Oh ok" reaction to it....yeah I get that falling to your knees in front of someone is a big gesture....but his words in that scene will matter more to me....I need to see what they show him connecting in his head after the fallout from the scene with the villagers. Seems like Imlie's big speech about her words going unheeded may pinch him enough to think he hurt her by not respecting her decisions and her right to live her life as she wants to, that is why he's doing this on the knees gesture to let her know he can respect her decision.

In that sense, it's just seeming like another round of the truce convo from the hospital scene...."I won't stop you from maanoing this rishta"😆....and err....I don't think that's going to cut it at this point in the story, Adi babu/writer log😆.....I can understand that he will want to stick to his denial and not admit what all has changed, but he can't be let off the hook with just this much now.....he has to give up something more than that for it to matter😛......

Let's see what we get.....lol cuz there is still the goon attack and the rain sequence left to tie in after this apology scene....and then I guess whatever happens the rest of this "last day/night" in PD😆.

I was watching some old episodes and in #64, when the T's throw a party for her return from the hospital, the words BS utters are so familiar. Back then, I could not link it or understand his motive. now it is clear as crystal. he yells at Imlie for dancing and tells her to go sit in the corner quietly. Full on daant, haq se. Malini tells him, he should not have done that. To which he replies, Imlie is just recovering from her surgery and he is worried that the wound would reopen. She tells him when he is irritatedwith Imlie, he gives her daant, when he is worried he gives a daant. Why can't he talk normally and why is he always angry with her? Now comes the lines that BS has perfected : Humeain uski nahi, puri family ki chinta hai. The guy was so worried nd scared that Imlie hurt herself again, his face showed his feelings and he began the denials almost at once.

since then he has perfected the art of lying to himself, denying that he feels anything for Imlie, hiding behind his 'wall of daant'. Imlie saw through his attempts since he landed at PD, when he kept saying the family is missing her, she was treated like a daughter of the house and she is not willing to return yada yada.. when Adi told her to marry Prakash, she called him out for all the times he has said the same thing.. out of guilt and denial.

As Pankaj said, till Adi introspects and accepts that he likes Imlie, this flip flop will go on, sadly more angry words are going to spill. Imlie is so done with his grand declarations right now and hope she lays forth some solid conditions before her return to Dilli, with him or not. The fact that she is not yielding to his pleas, is good. It will be a rinse repeat of his groveling with Malini, only it will be Imlie now. Adi has his work cut out for him and do not want Imlie to give in so easily. she did feel like a 5 yr old, lost in a mela, not knowing what happens next. Maybe the NN scene and its fallout s an impetus for her to decide on her next step towards the path of attending college. She is able to see her path now, that clearly is in Dilli.

As long as he in a bubble with Imlie, he is feeling J when he sees Pari with Imlie. Then when he reminded of his Mun, he goes into denial mode or to end things. He is possessive already, that he wants to know what she is thinking, look at me.. what are you thinking, why are you silent? I think her silence kills him now, earlier he would taunt her to keep quiet.