Duty vs Right - Page 2

Both Virat and Pakhi were wrong to hide about their so called love from Samrat. Having said that Pakhi is more at fault than Virat since Pakhi got an opportunity to back off. But, she just wanted to stay close to Virat so she opted to marry Samrat. If she had not known that both Samrat and Virat were cousins she still would have married him because she thought Virat had betrayed her. So, in which way Pakhi is more guilty of ruining Samrat's life. But, in this whole mess Samrat gained nothing.

Originally posted by: fatssrilanka

Both Virat and Pakhi were wrong to hide about their so called love from Samrat. Having said that Pakhi is more at fault than Virat since Pakhi got an opportunity to back off. But, she just wanted to stay close to Virat so she opted to marry Samrat. If she had not known that both Samrat and Virat were cousins she still would have married him because she thought Virat had betrayed her. So, in which way Pakhi is more guilty of ruining Samrat's life. But, in this whole mess Samrat gained nothing.

i loved the way u explained it. and it made few things clear to me. ek dusri angle se soch ne ka mauka mila yeh padkar..thanks for that.❤️

main ek practical thinking rakhne waali ladki hoon..so in my POV..all that was a bewkoofi. i mean did virat really think that this truth about pakhi and his past is never going to get revealed in front of samrat? did he think that once samrat gets to know about all this he will be cool with it? did virat really think that Samrat will be happy to spend his life with pakhi knowing that pakhi loved his brother once and still does..and upar se his brother made a promise to pakhi saying he will never love any other woman? and Samrat ever mentioned anything like he wont ever marry anyone other than pakhi? tho yeh sab raita kyun failana hai? duniya mein ladkiyon ki kami hai?

these complications and all this mess would have been easily avoided if virat thought practically and handled the situation with maturity and logic.

what annoys me the most is that virat isn't guilty for what he did with samrat. yes, he is worried for his brother sometimes..thinking kaha hoga and kab milega but was never felt any guilt for all this marriage thing. he only feels guilty seeing pakhi sometimes thinking that she ended up in all this mess because of him whenever she tells him that she doesn't love samrat and she is all alone.

pakhi didi ka tho kya hi bataye..like u mentioned there she said 'tumne sai se shaadi karke theen theen zindagiyan barbaad ki hai.. i guess she is talking about her, sai and virat's life..didi ne tho samrat ko list se nikhal hi diya hai...she is soo sure now that samrat is never going to return back. guilt tho dhoor ki baath hai.. if samrat didnt hear her talking to virat then uss din woh samrat se suhaag raat manaleti? uss din koyi bahana bhi banale but kya ithne mehne tak usse dhoor rehti? kab tak? kya bahana banati? and what if samrat isn't mahaan praani but a normal guy then didi kya karti? what id samrat decided to bring this in front of whole family and question pakhi didi and virat in front of all and insulted pakhi and her family? thab virat and pakhi kya karte??

its pure bewkoofi...the words they use..maturity..samajdaari etc etc woh unmein 10% bhi nay hai..😆

all this was possible only because its an ITV drama and a 'writer' wrote this story. so apne convenience ke hisaab se story ko badla hai..that's it.

Loved the different perspective and the write up. I have to disagree on the Ehsaan part. But let’s agree to disagree. The bond of shiva and Jeeva started with that moment, when Jeeva saved him. He looked at his brother in a different light, other than petty teenage jealousy. Imagine being the chaheeta beta and pampered all around by his kaku and baba, suddenly the importance goes to this new cousin, as a kid especially a pampered one it is difficult to accept.

I agree what Virat did in the heat of the moment was WRONG. No justification for it. But his intention in my opinion, is not to return the Ehsaan, but for the love he truely holds for his brother. He “ thought” this would make him happy and he would move out of the house ( take a different posting , he mentions this to sunny).

Originally posted by: Chandu_500

i loved the way u explained it. and it made few things clear to me. ek dusri angle se soch ne ka mauka mila yeh padkar..thanks for that.❤️

main ek practical thinking rakhne waali ladki hoon..so in my POV..all that was a bewkoofi. i mean did virat really think that this truth about pakhi and his past is never going to get revealed in front of samrat? did he think that once samrat gets to know about all this he will be cool with it? did virat really think that Samrat will be happy to spend his life with pakhi knowing that pakhi loved his brother once and still does..and upar se his brother made a promise to pakhi saying he will never love any other woman? and Samrat ever mentioned anything like he wont ever marry anyone other than pakhi? tho yeh sab raita kyun failana hai? duniya mein ladkiyon ki kami hai?

these complications and all this mess would have been easily avoided if virat thought practically and handled the situation with maturity and logic.

what annoys me the most is that virat isn't guilty for what he did with samrat. yes, he is worried for his brother sometimes..thinking kaha hoga and kab milega but was never felt any guilt for all this marriage thing. he only feels guilty seeing pakhi sometimes thinking that she ended up in all this mess because of him whenever she tells him that she doesn't love samrat and she is all alone.

pakhi didi ka tho kya hi bataye..like u mentioned there she said 'tumne sai se shaadi karke theen theen zindagiyan barbaad ki hai.. i guess she is talking about her, sai and virat's life..didi ne tho samrat ko list se nikhal hi diya hai...she is soo sure now that samrat is never going to return back. guilt tho dhoor ki baath hai.. if samrat didnt hear her talking to virat then uss din woh samrat se suhaag raat manaleti? uss din koyi bahana bhi banale but kya ithne mehne tak usse dhoor rehti? kab tak? kya bahana banati? and what if samrat isn't mahaan praani but a normal guy then didi kya karti? what id samrat decided to bring this in front of whole family and question pakhi didi and virat in front of all and insulted pakhi and her family? thab virat and pakhi kya karte??

its pure bewkoofi...the words they use..maturity..samajdaari etc etc woh unmein 10% bhi nay hai..😆

all this was possible only because its an ITV drama and a 'writer' wrote this story. so apne convenience ke hisaab se story ko badla hai..that's it.

I have yet to see whether he knows that Samrat realised the truth of their relationship or not to comment on his guilt towards Samrat. If he comes to know that Samrat came to know of the truth and that's why he left, he must feel guilty. But if he doesn't know that Samrat already knows the truth and left because of them, he will be in his happy bubble that he made his brother happy. So as I have yet to know this, so no comments on his guilt for Samrat.

When I mentioned three lives, I was not talking about Sai. I was talking about Samrat. When Virat was trying to convince her to get married to his brother she mentioned three lives talking about her, Virat and Samrat. I started watching this show from the middle so I'm watching the episodes from the beginning during Neil's absence. Everything is new to me. Here Patralekha mentioned Samrat but she didn't care enough to tell him anything.

If Samrat was not a mahan prani, Patralekha couldn't have escaped intimacy. But then, it would have made her feel more wronged as she would feel that her sacrifice for Virat was much bigger then what Virat did. So she would have expected much more from Virat than she does. Her anger would have been much more than it is.

Yes, it was bewakoofi. As Samrat himself said in his imagination that it was not a sacrifice but stupidity. I already mentioned in the post why I think they feel they are mature😆

Thanks for sharing your opinion.

Originally posted by: cheekukabeej

thankyou🤗

I have yet to see whether he knows that Samrat realised the truth of their relationship or not to comment on his guilt towards Samrat. If he comes to know that Samrat came to know of the truth and that's why he left, he must feel guilty. But if he doesn't know that Samrat already knows the truth and left because of them, he will be in his happy bubble that he made his brother happy. So as I have yet to know this, so no comments on his guilt for Samrat.

When I mentioned three lives, I was not talking about Sai. I was talking about Samrat. When Virat was trying to convince her to get married to his brother she mentioned three lives talking about her, Virat and Samrat. I started watching this show from the middle so I'm watching the episodes from the beginning during Neil's absence. Everything is new to me. Here Patralekha mentioned Samrat but she didn't care enough to tell him anything.

If Samrat was not a mahan prani, Patralekha couldn't have escaped intimacy. But then, it would have made her feel more wronged as she would feel that her sacrifice for Virat was much bigger then what Virat did. So she would have expected much more from Virat than she does. Her anger would have been much more than it is.

Yes, it was bewakoofi. As Samrat himself said in his imagination that it was not a sacrifice but stupidity. I already mentioned in the post why I think they feel they are mature😆

Thanks for sharing your opinion.

yes, pakhi tells virat that samrat heard her talk to virat on phone..and she told him that she thinks samrat heard everything. and also as per other versions when virat and samrat meet again they behave like both knew about all this. virat wasn't shocked or anything. so basically he knows that samrat ko sab pata hai. well, am not sure whether he thinks from the angle that samrat might have left cuz of all this..but mere hisaab se usse pata hona chahiye cuz he already knows that samrat knows about pakhi and him so that is the first thing that should come his mind after samrat went MIA.

that three lives waala dialogue i felt that its about sai, virat and pakhi cuz pakhi is kind of convinced now that samrat is not going to return back. that is why even kaku is encouraging pakhi and will continue to do so to take advantage of her and virat's past relationship and make him forget sai..kaku will basically push pakhi towards virat after sai leaves to GC..this is because everyone including pakhi is convinced that samrat will not return back. so woh kabhi samrat ko unki list mein aad karti hi nay hai😆 thats why till today i felt that..that dialogue of three lives was about sai, virat and pakhi. cuz samrat tho uske hisaab se kabhi waapis aayega hi nay and another context is that as virat and sai's is a deal marriage and he promised pakhi to not love anyone else so i felt that she was talking about sai, virat and her lives getting spoiled with his 'marriage' decision. uss marriage mein sai and virat hai so her dialogue saying 'sai se shaadi karne ki tumhare ek faisle ne 3 3 zindagiyan barbaad kardi hai'

i feel that if samrat was not a mahaan praani and if he didnt leave virat wouldn't have this softcorner for her..so whatever pakhi didi would think or feel it wouldn't have mattered to virat cuz he clearly told her that they are in 'dost' waala relation and didi keliye 'dosti' ka meaning alag hai not for virat. so if Samrat didnt leave like this virat would have felt disgusted of pakhi and stayed away from her.

Originally posted by: notaquitter

Loved the different perspective and the write up. I have to disagree on the Ehsaan part. But let’s agree to disagree. The bond of shiva and Jeeva started with that moment, when Jeeva saved him. He looked at his brother in a different light, other than petty teenage jealousy. Imagine being the chaheeta beta and pampered all around by his kaku and baba, suddenly the importance goes to this new cousin, as a kid especially a pampered one it is difficult to accept.

I agree what Virat did in the heat of the moment was WRONG. No justification for it. But his intention in my opinion, is not to return the Ehsaan, but for the love he truely holds for his brother. He “ thought” this would make him happy and he would move out of the house ( take a different posting , he mentions this to sunny).

I personally think it was the Ehsaan. I have my reason for believing this. I won't disagree on him seeing Samrat in a new light that day. I agree. This is why he told Patralekha that did you see how happy they were. Patralekha asks him what about you, what about your happiness, your life? And he replies with "meri zindagi wo bhi to Samrat ki hi den hai." Then he mentions this specific incident of Dahi Handi. It makes me think that he was repaying Samrat for what he did for him in childhood. But I'm not 100% firm on my stance. This is why I mentioned other possibilities too in my post. But I still think it was due to that favour only. But as you said let's agree to disagree.

well both pakhi and virat are at fault , they shouldn't have hide it from samrat they don't have right to take decision on behalf of him , par mujhe virat seh zyaada pakhi ka lagha even though virat did give her promise , it was her who decided to get married to samrat in first place assuming virat was having time pass with her nothing else then when she come to know truth she want him to accept her marry her , when he denied same asked her to marry his brother whom he assume as a better match for pakhi , his this action cannot be termed as ehsaan in my opinion i know sam did save virats life in their childhood but from there i felt their bond was stronger their love for each other was stronger they were shiva and jeeva the closest one , and also virat and pakhis affection cannot be termed as love either and it wasn't that strong that he fight against his family whom he love from his birth so he choose his families happiness his brothers happiness , which was evident , virat has seen how happy was samrat in all this how excited he was regarding his marriage , so he doesn't want to snatch his brothers happiness his families happiness so he decides to sacrifice his love (the one he assume to be his love ) , pakhi did have numerous chances to backoff from this marriage even her father repeatedly told her to back off he is there he will handle but for her at any means she wanna stay close to virat if that means she needs to marry samrat she will do that , even if sam and virat were not cousins she will go ahead with this wedding because she assume virat cheated on her

Originally posted by: linakusharberry

well both pakhi and virat are at fault , they shouldn't have hide it from samrat they don't have right to take decision on behalf of him , par mujhe virat seh zyaada pakhi ka lagha even though virat did give her promise , it was her who decided to get married to samrat in first place assuming virat was having time pass with her nothing else then when she come to know truth she want him to accept her marry her , when he denied same asked her to marry his brother whom he assume as a better match for pakhi , his this action cannot be termed as ehsaan in my opinion i know sam did save virats life in their childhood but from there i felt their bond was stronger their love for each other was stronger they were shiva and jeeva the closest one , and also virat and pakhis affection cannot be termed as love either and it wasn't that strong that he fight against his family whom he love from his birth so he choose his families happiness his brothers happiness , which was evident for virat how happy was samrat in all this how excited he was , so he doesn't want to snatch his brothers happiness his families happiness so he decides to sacrifice his love (the one he assume to be his love ) , pakhi did have numerous chances to backoff from this marriage even her father repeatedly told her to back off he is there he will handle but for her at any means she wanna stay close to virat if that means she needs to marry samrat she will do that , even if sam and virat was not cousins she will go ahead with this wedding because she assume virat cheated on her

woh virat ki bewkoofi hai aur pakhi ki chaalaaki cuz by that time pakhi knew that even if she backs out from the marriage with samrat, virat isn't going to marry her as virat thinks that samrat likes pakhi. so the only chance to stay close to virat and have an emotional and physical relationship with him was by marrying samrat. virat's promise about not loving any other girl made her think that she can still have EMA with him even after marrying samrat. now in this separation track, she clearly tells that to him. 🤓

Originally posted by: Chandu_500

yes, pakhi tells virat that samrat heard her talk to virat on phone..and she told him that she thinks samrat heard everything. and also as per other versions when virat and samrat meet again they behave like both knew about all this. virat wasn't shocked or anything. so basically he knows that samrat ko sab pata hai. well, am not sure whether he thinks from the angle that samrat might have left cuz of all this..but mere hisaab se usse pata hona chahiye cuz he already knows that samrat knows about pakhi and him so that is the first thing that should come his mind after samrat went MIA.

that three lives waala dialogue i felt that its about sai, virat and pakhi cuz pakhi is kind of convinced now that samrat is not going to return back. that is why even kaku is encouraging pakhi and will continue to do so to take advantage of her and virat's past relationship and make him forget sai..kaku will basically push pakhi towards virat after sai leaves to GC..this is because everyone including pakhi is convinced that samrat will not return back. so woh kabhi samrat ko unki list mein aad karti hi nay hai😆 thats why till today i felt that..that dialogue of three lives was about sai, virat and pakhi. cuz samrat tho uske hisaab se kabhi waapis aayega hi nay and another context is that as virat and sai's is a deal marriage and he promised pakhi to not love anyone else so i felt that she was talking about sai, virat and her lives getting spoiled with his 'marriage' decision. uss marriage mein sai and virat hai so her dialogue saying 'sai se shaadi karne ki tumhare ek faisle ne 3 3 zindagiyan barbaad kardi hai'

i feel that if samrat was not a mahaan praani and if he didnt leave virat wouldn't have this softcorner for her..so whatever pakhi didi would think or feel it wouldn't have mattered to virat cuz he clearly told her that they are in 'dost' waala relation and didi keliye 'dosti' ka meaning alag hai not for virat. so if Samrat didnt leave like this virat would have felt disgusted of pakhi and stayed away from her.

When you mentioned three lives you were coming from another place. I have yet to reach there.😆where I'm watching right now, Sairat are still fighting, Patralekha has only heard Sai's name and never seen her. Jagtap is still around. Later ofcourse for her three lives are only of Virat Sai and Herself. Samrat is out of equation for her.

Your perspective on Samrat not being Mahan prani gave me a very dangerous idea. We have all seen how manipulative Patralekha is. She could have convinced Virat that Samrat doesn't keep her happy and she is subjected to torture. She is living a tortured life and needs his help. She could conjure up some false evidences to support her claim. And Virat would stand against his own brother to 'protect' her. Oh God, why did this thought occur to me🤣