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Posted: 4 years ago
#51

Originally posted by: asmi_joya


Well honestly I am not a fan of plants or gardening.. Ready for chappals coming my way But then I was gifted a bamboo plant by a friend.. and still lies their on my table.. freshly chopped and all green.. low maintenance it is..And since it's a gift I take care of it like I take care of my clothes..I guess when a gift comes from a loved one.. one tries to take care of it as much as possible..So personally I liked the thought process behind the gift and also the note on the gift.. Beautiful note.. says much about how much she adores him.. She said a lot to Virat that she has not said directly to him and he has been waiting to hear..

I am sure Virat will treasure the first gift from Sai . My point was Sai hasn’t really put efforts to know his likes and dislikes . It’s not about this particular gift . I agree by buying a gift she conveyed a lot . It was a very sweet gesture . She was excited to see his reactions . She included him in the list of people she loves and those who support her in CN . Hope in her mind she hasn’t really divided the list into two - people she loves and people who support her .
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Posted: 4 years ago
#52

As usual awesome analysis Janki

I think 25000 is monthly scholarship & 50000 from state governments scholarship

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: asmi_joya

Janki one question.. we are pretty much clear on what Virat would become because of the separation. Virat has already expressed enough to himself and to Sai..to know how devastated (devdas the better word) he would be once Sai leaves.. and specially when she knows Madhuri is not the wife..How would Sai take this separation?What would she become? Will she be more vulnerable or more guarded?

These two are adorbs..I am just scared, what if the bricks that Sai has started dropping from the wall she has created , is put back again by her after this separation..She has started to let him in.. Even he knows through her expressions that he has a place in her heart.. But the self-respecting person that our doll is, she would close all the doors to her heart now.. What if the wall is even more strong now?


Originally posted by: scarlett22

Today while I was watching Sai, I was thinking of all of us on the forum who want her to suffer as much as Virat because of the separation and I felt really bad. But ultimately, after her dad, he is the one who cares for her too. She couldn't hide her blush today nor could she find words to counter him yesterday. Bechari dew drop!

Bechara Virat too. Abhi to he's getting the nerve to flirt with her, and soon she will leave.


Originally posted by: Roch


1) Sai - Man she tried really hard to guard herself but has failed miserably, she is going to go through a tough time.

2) Virat - He is growing confident day by day with his feelings, the blow is going to be bad especially for him.

But like you always say they need this phase in their life to understand the feelings they have for each other.


It is going to be tough for both of them. That "Aadat" word, which Virat used is quite mutual. Sai is not really thinking of leaving the house so it will come as a shock to her anyway if things come to a point where she has to make such a decision in a matter of few days since he promised her "sapne mein bhi nahi"... and so for him as well. They obviously don't expect what is coming... so, it will naturally damage the closeness they had been building for so many days, overcoming the hurdles.

For Virat, of course, it would be a time to realise his actual feeling for Sai and also the family's intentions (whether he confronts them or not). But I think Sai will become vulnerable. She will try to put up a strong front and continue searching for the purpose in her dream but it is going to be extremely difficult for her to not realise what it means to have him by her side. He is obviously going to go to fetch her and apologise after learning the truth and she won't return so easily... depends on how much time they stay separated and how many times he tries to get her back and what he says when he goes to apologise this time...

But Sai will definitely realise that she fears losing him. She already knows that he is the one who held her hand when everyone else wanted to abandon her and he's the only one in the world who's her own -- I think it will activate her instinct to also reach out to him (we saw a glimpse when he didn't return late night). So far, we haven't seen her worried about leaving the house because she has never looked at it from the perspective of going away from him -- although she could not answer the questions when Shivani and Mohit asked about life without him. She will realise how much it matters to her that this marriage is not a "five year contract" and he's the person she doesn't want to lose.

Separation (preceding a divorce petition) has a very negative emotion attached to it but I am a firm believer that taking time off to evaluate feelings can be therapeutic for a couple. Sometimes, being in the same space does no good and the kind of space they are in-- there is no breath of air, constant external nagging, instigation and interruptions. Of course, they won't be separating with the idea of getting back together -- and actually, separation at such time is even more intimidating because there will be a bigger fear of 'losing control' of the relationship, especially because the bond has been weakened by a betrayed trust that was just re-built.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: 404_NotFound

It’s not about materialistic things . When Sai was sharing her likes , he was trying to know more about her by asking questions . An example is she says she likes sweet he immediately asks what kind of sweet you like . I haven’t seen that from Sai yet . When Aai said he gets hangry she could have asked what kind of food he likes . When I say giver in her relationship I meant in terms of non materialistic things something that cannot be bought with money .


I liked her gift and I wasn’t expecting her to buy clothes or expensive gifts .I liked that she thought about him and I was afraid she won’t buy anything for him . Not everyone likes to take care of a live plant . It’s a hassle for some and for some it isn’t . Did she really know whether he likes it or not .

I agree that he wanted to know more about her than she did so far 😆 but it's also because he knows that he's changed the conditions he had placed. She is not aware yet so why invest? 😆😆 but of course, it's not possible to resist either... But she didn't want to be seen as taking an interest and that was a very big factor- it would have diluted her 'indifference' that she covers herself with. She was so excited to hear his academy stories but his personal choices is not a subject she thinks she can broach yet...

almost all gifts are a gamble when you don't know a person's likes or dislikes and even when you know, it is usually best to surprise with simple things only 😆 -- a lot of people don't like receiving gifts so in that sense the bamboo was quite harmless and it has a lot of good wishes and positivity attached. Now whether he does nurture it or not, it is up to him.

When i said "giver" i said it in the material context only. We can't really weigh the intangible things they have done for each other. Like Virat himself said today, the things that she does for his family members (given her own nature) is something that he hasn't done for his own family so far. So while he's been the shade she wanted or needed under the open sky, she has also actually become the cover for his close people in the line of fire, without caring about her own self. So, in that sense, I would say their thank you's today were well placed. They are clearly lucky charms to each other.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Your analysis is awesome jhanaki and the episode is bliss...

I agree to each and every point with you .but I guess plant is not personal gift to virat but the pop up line is very personal gift bcoz she can do this / think to do this only with virat ... Imagine when she was even in gift shop buying gifts.. .... She would have thought what to bring for aai, Usha mausi and Tai but when coming to virat along with gift she would have thought how to give him in other terms how to give him memorably, so I liked pop one the most....

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: Fruitcustard_9

@janki


Mujhe ek cheez puchni thi is topics se alag hain.


Samrat is said to be MIA his pension had started coming coz pakhi had transferred it to mansi bua's account but is dis not cheating with armed forces that samrat is actually not MIA but hiding somewhere coz he don't want to return CN.


Army officers r looking for him & I don't think samrat is on secret Mission.


Of course, it's a big blooper that the pension is already coming - It has to be a year after he's gone missing, a formal police complaint also has to be lodged in the area of residence and the police has to also submit a report that the personnel could not be traced despite best efforts. And the disappearance is counted from the date when the family lodges the FIR to state that he's missing, as per the rule (Army efforts to trace the officer are different from this). The rule also is that if he reappears, the money will have to be returned to the Army.

You do have a point about this unreasonable hiding-- any serviceman making it seem like he's missing in action on duty due to some unforeseen events while he's actually willfully hiding does amount to breach of trust and can easily attract disciplinary action when he's found without any compelling reason for the act.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: jankiraghav

Good afternoon sisterhood!🌻🌺🌻🌄

Mubarak ho!

Wait, not because someone has said let's drop the 'Sir' 😅😅 it's because Sai has finally got her scholarship money👩‍🎓👩‍🎓 -- I guess we had high expectations about the amount. The amount of scholarship is only for the tuition fees ... And dew-drop must have already spent the money on buying the gold for Devyani and murti for Aai...

No wonder 'lucky charm' ke liye sirf lucky bamboo plant hi aaya 😅😅So, Rs 75000 is barely anything to be able to repay Virat's 'loan' with mooh maanga byaaj😃 (and already spent) but who said Chavan Saheb wants byaj in currency 😉😉 his eyes are set on 24K sone ka dil.... 😅😅 And Sai ne toh promise bhi Kiya Tha "Aapse kya mol bhaav karna"... Abhi toh maangna shuru hi Kiya hai... List will get longer with time...

So see, the moment the scholarship money has arrived ( are we to assume that he does know btw? ), Chavan Saheb has begun demanding for the sooth wala components -- "Mujhe Sir bulana bandh Kyun Nahi Karti" 😱😱😱 seriously! Like out of the blue?! Or does the lucky bamboo charm work so fast 😂😂😂

So Virat has actually thrown open the flirting ground for Baiko now -- she did really, really well in holding that straight face in front of him for a few seconds before walking away to hide her blushing cheeks 😆 of course, his eyes followed and as they say when someone is really smiling because of the 'love' that fills their heart, you don't need to see the face -- it was so evident.

But Virat can get 'hangry' in a matter of seconds. How quick was he to latch on to the fact that his Baiko has dropped Pulkit se 'Sir' and used a rather endearing Jiju tag for him so he's overcome by FOMO 😂😂😂

"Hamari bhi toh Shaadi huyi hai? Apne Pati ko sir bulana kab bandh karogi?" 😃😃😃

That was really a sixer on a full toss that Sai threw at him -- he never misses those😅

Shouldn't he have also had a FOMO feeling with "Thank you"? Pehle handwritten thank you note and now bamboo plant in a big thank you basket... But he knows Sai can say 'sooh sweet baby' instead of thank you. Shopping ke paise diye toh bhi Nahi boli 😂😂😂 itna hangry Karna bhi acchi baat Nahi hai na

Of course, he should even treasure the gift note "lucky charm" wala. Doesn't it say so much that has been left unspoken?

Of course, the names spouses use to address each other by show their affection, and project tenderness of their intimacy -- the two of them have actually already done such a good job at it. One of the most popular ways of building the positive emotional intimacies is to coin new names for the spouse -- the honey, darling, baby types are so common so these two of course have Khadoos Jasoos, Gabbar, Badbaddevi, Gadchiroli superfast and the likes 😅😅 -- these are all arising from their bond from the experiential intimacy -- shared experiences that has led to inside jokes only between them... and they are definitely private memories that can intensify their hurt at the loss of connection if it happens.

Ab what terms of endearment would work best for 'Pati' wale Chavan saheb? She already calls him "Smart boy" (it will soon be under question mark) but ab "Shaadi huyi hai" and 'Pati' feel wala endearment Chahiye toh what can it be? The typical Marathi "aaho" 😂😂😂 the Pakaku jodi will need CPR of the sound of that 'aaho' reaches their eardrums 😆😉 Sai should try it once to check the Pati's response to the stimulus 😛😛

He's anyway so touchy about anything she does. That incensed look and tone he had at the punching toy joke despite seeing the second present 🎁 made me feel lo ab ho Gaya Jhagda 😂 they are forever sitting on a time bomb...

"Main hamesha Tumhari pasand ki cheez laata hoon"

Bechara was really so excited to see the gift box and so dejected with the punching toy 😂😂😂😂😂 bur actually he's going to need this gift too. Chavan Saheb please preserve it and open it close to your face when you will need it once Sai is gone 😜😜

On a serious note, does Sai really know what he likes? The lucky bamboo plant was quite an impersonal gift although a very thoughtful one -- she added the deep message of relevance (and I also agree that buying gifts for men in general is a big task😅) but I doubt Sai knows what he likes -- Virat has not shared as much as Sai has shared with him things about her likes and dislikes. He has picked up a lot from observing her because she's the extrovert between them and it's easier to pick the clues of what she would like - and she's of course so easy to please. Am sure she would have even loved the punching doll and assumed it was really a gift 😂😂


>>> You will punch me only when i say this to the question you asked. According to Sai, Virat sir likes apni vedi vahini (Pakhi Didi).


I read somewhere i think Sai is high on words and Virat is more on emotions. She reads him pretty well but needs his words as a confirmation. I still remember her dialogue when she went to Vahini's house and had come back. When she had told him, people can see things even if you don't say it. So she knows his changing feelings but needs his words. Even yesterday she was about to ask (one can only wonder) but she needed to know why he does not want her to go.

Oh between Virat reads her pretty well and i think he gets her emotions and hence at times her replies hurt him. But he knows and thats the reason he openly flirts at times.

Todays "Kamal Hain" scene reminded me of the "Headphone & Shirt" scene, it had the same vibe with a different feeling.


But may be now she will pick up the clues too since the two of them are consciously putting energy into shifting aspects of the relationship because they silently desire for improvement and happiness... Isn't that a sign of commitment anyway?

It is heartening to see them cultivating this "safe space" in their conversations where one of them does not have to worry about judgment or contempt. But they are yet to reach the stage of being able to have the uninhibited conversations about the baggage that is attached to their relationship and lying in the centre of the room. That level of intimacy involves being able to tell each other the deepest fears and most complicated emotions, feeling seen and understood in the process.

For that, they must listen to understand rather than waiting to respond and refrain from invalidating the feeling of the other -- Sai mostly does it in her words and Virat in his silences... How will they ever throw that heavy excess baggage out of that blessed door of their room?!

And whoever decided to take that frame of the ghostly main door of their bedroom while Sai knocked at the bathroom door "bandh Kyun Kar liya"... Ek toh aisa laga Didi Ka manhoos bhoot andar na aa Jaye and second, hangry Gabbar ne darwaaza khol hi Diya Hota toh 😆

There would have been a chorus of 'Kamaal hai" 😛

So waise, navra baiko have settled scores on thank yous, what next?

Will they end up shopping ya it's going to be the day of 'chitthi aayi hai aayi hai...'??

Vahini has taken Virat's 'itna dimaag ladane ki zaroorat Nahi hai' a bit too seriously...

The phone call was so unnecessary unless it is attempted to make Virat realise how fixated Vahini is with the idea of stopping the marriage -- his flashback of her words and that nod of disbelief mixed with annoyance at her unkind behaviour gave that impression but would it then gel with his sudden change of side at the mere mention of the letter? Wouldn't he probe before changing his stand or will Patralekha succeed in planting the seed in his mind -- there's definitely no harm if he probes, he must.

But Didi ke Delusion Ka Dum toh ekdam alag variety Ka hai

"Main jaanti hoon mujhe kya Karna hai... Sai ko Lagta hai wo har Baar Sahi Hoti hai... Is Baar Nahi jeetegi kyunki Iss baar main Sahi hoon?"

Huh!???😯😯😯Huh!????😲😲😲 MATLAB?😨😨😨 Did anyone understand how? Please enlighten me... So her delusions are her reality, we all know but to this level? I mean, I thought she was convincing herself to side with Bhavani despite knowing the story but she actually thinks she's right? Is that how compulsive liars and manipulators convince themselves to appear convincing to the one they must fool? 😧😧🤐🤫🤫

So Didi will go running to type a letter in the first name that comes to her mind. She's actually convinced about passing her venom on to the innocent Devyani -- it makes me wonder whether she's actually also avenging Devyani's taunts directed at her in a way. Because in her mind, Devyani is cheering Sai in this so called race that Vahini's delusional mind is running to win.


>>> They say "Play to win" but in vahini's case she is not playing to win but she wants Sai to loose now that's not going to happen Vahini you should have known that by now.

There is one thing I like and it has been from the start since I started watching (from the DIG case). Sai would go to lengths if she knows she is right and she does not need Virat by her side to take anyone down. Whereas vedi vahini plays safe and lands up loosing.


Is the list of commonsense questions we must not ask increasing or decreasing?

So Virat bumps into Madhuri in the bank queue... And meets Pulkit bhau's 'sister' after reading his name on the cheque she's carrying. And even asks about Harini, bohat cute hai na? 😳 and wants to know the story of Harini from this lady in bank queue? 🙆🤦🤷🙅 Wah! Can't help but say wah wah... Why can't Mama and Mami visit the girl with gifts and sit and hear the story 😣🤔🤔 MATLAB why?? And he's almost upset at Madhuri's 'cold' response --why should she tell him the story in the bank? 😑 Her answer was absolutely right when she said you ask Pulkit but the "ek Baar Shaadi ho jaane dijiye" was so mischievously added to 'justify' how it will be the water to the seed planted by venomous Vahini.

Sai was sharp in picking up the intuition that something is going on between the Pakaku lovers. What makes Vahini so confident about the plan? Is the letter going to mention a 'daughter' by fluke or did Vahini hear some bits of Sai's conversation with Virat about Harini that we are unaware about as the "surprise" element. Virat meeting Madhuri in the bank can't be a coincidence for nothing... 🤔🤔🤔 Whatever it be, it still appears like such a flimsy ground for the misunderstanding. I don't think we'll be able to shorten our commonsense questions 😅😅.


>>> Main abhi bhi bol rahi hoon, they should have taken Devi tai seriously when she had asked during college admission "Kya Sai bhi teri tari police banegi" Wish she could have done that, she is better trained. Ye Viru boy toh pata nahi kya karta hain.

Waise there was one right question which vahini asked, kya tum bina kisi jaach ke ye shaadi karwa doge. Even i had that question, why cant he go and meet the groom once and see for himself.



How lovely was Sai, the David, today. The electric blue dress must have given enough shocks to the Pakakuli (adding Sonali to the Kaku gang) and then the Discovery that she didn't buy gifts for Queen Bhavani 😅 matlab kya zabardasti hai but the minor face off between Bhavani and Sai was again beautifully carried off by both the actors -- until vahini walks in, the scene is so watchable and also well executed. Sai's "Main Kaku se utna hi pyaar Karti hoon, jitna Kaku mujhse Karti Hain" was whistle worthy again. She doesn't care at all 😅😅😅 bhagwaan aisi bahu sabko de 😂😂😂😂

Bhavani reminded Sai about the 'money'. Obviously, no one is privy to the navra baiko conversation about the 'paisa' so everyone can continue to believe that it's a bone between them. For once let's thank vahini Dil se for leaving the scene with Bhavani without torturing our eyes more than her ghisa pita dialogue about 'badtameezi'... warna Uska next wala scene skip ho jaata 😉😉. But Vahini's conduct is so suspicious that Sai Joshi is almost on her way to 'pakde sacche doshi'... Will she?

Ashwini is enjoying these takedowns so much because bechari doesn't know what's coming up 🥺🥺

There have been so many discussions on how broken Virat will be when Sai leaves but what about Ashwini? The mother in her will be deeply anguished -- if Devyani is also to depart and Sai as well... She won't be mentally prepared to have both her girls missing all of a sudden and watching her son break as well. It will be tough on her already heavy heart -- although it's also Ashwini who will show Virat the mirror, I assume...

How touched was Ashwini with Sai's gift. And what a beautiful idol was that. Hopefully there will be sense among the Makad Sena to not damage the idol in vengeance 😒 but Bhavani always actually says the right things about Sai in her taunts -- samajhdaar aur akkalmand insaan 😅😅 We all think Bhavani is in love with Vahini but actually mein Uske Dil Ke taar bhi Sai se hi Jude huye Lagte Hain 😂😂😂😂 Didi ko mat batana please 🤫🤫

Six commonsense questions we must not ask:

1. Is Harini going to meet her mother after she comes home as Pulkit's wife?😕

2. Will Mama Mami buy some gifts for Harini in the shopping session and meet her before the kabootar drops the snake's letter?

3. Will Devyani's story of going mentally unsound be told before the drama to justify IPS officer's "wo dono baalig hain apne faisle khud kar sakte hain..."?

4. ACP Chavan arrived in the bank with two officers to assist him in queuing up at the cash counter... Ye log uss din Kahan thay when he was in the hospital with another kid and a dead phone?? 😜

5. The letter 💌 will pop up at the doorstep without a postal stamp from Sangeeta Deshpande. How did Sangeeta Deshpande learn about the wedding that has not been announced publicly, within one day of the resolve made only by navra baiko?🤫🤫🤔🤔

6. Is IPS officer going to think Madhuri lied about Harini to hide Pulkit's marriage to this non existent Sangeeta Deshpande? 🤔


>>> Common sense ki yahan koi jagah hain hi nahi, ye track ka pata nahi ye log ne kya kiya hain. I just hope they can tie the loose ends. Harini ka track toh is post separation but i also have the same question as you, will the mother meet the daughter post marriage. As probably she would live with Pulkit. Or are they going to deviate a little from the original. I hope they do.


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Is it necessary for spouses to know every minute detail of each other's daily lives? Can each.of the spouses have separate lives and not want to collaborate on everything? Yes, but it's crucial to have shared experiences.

We've been wondering why is their so much pull and so much pull back between this couple... The vulnerability required to achieve intimacy can be a fear in itself-- this fear holds a purpose. And most likely the purposes is "protection". They have the desire but the fear of being rejected, hurt and let down is stronger. The root cause is holding on to a negative experience or emotion that has been shared -- the deal, the vaada in this case. The inevitable physical distance will help them take the much needed step: to start building an intimate relationship with self, to be able to get comfortable with the feeling that is so inexplicable at the moment -- the 'love'.

Today adding a melody to the morning☕☕☕☕☕🍵🍵🍵🍵🍵 🤗🤗🤗🤗and ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

Here it goes:

Ek ajnabi sa ehsaas dil ko sataye

Shayad yahi toh pyar hai

Betabiyon me dhadkan meri chal paye

Shayad yahi toh pyar hai

Kuch bhi kaha naa, kuch bhi suna naa

Phir bhi bechain dil hai humara

Behke kadam hai, mushkil me ham hai

Dekho sambhle bhala kaise yara

Chahe bina bhi najdik ham chale aaye

Shayad yahi toh pyar hai

Najare bicha de, pehare laga de dil pe

Par dil kisi ki naa maane

Kaanto pe chal ke, sholo me jal ke roke

Milake rahenge divane

Chahat ki lau toh aandhi me bhi jhilmilaye

Shayad yahi toh pyar hai

Have a lovely day!

❤️J


Okay i have wanting to write since morning but have been a little occupied. so here it goes.

Wonderful analysis of a wonderful episode now thats a rare combo. Wherein the analysis is always wonderful the other part is most probably not in sync.


My comments in blue>>>>


Had Patralekha behaved in this manner without knowing the truth, i would have still said ok she is blindly trusting the mother who knows better for her daughter. But after knowing she has a child and its in orphanage she did not feel bad for her. At least tell the entire truth to Virat for him to find out everything. I don't even hate her, earlier I could not gouge the feeling I was having but now I know it pure disgust.

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Originally posted by: 404_NotFound

I am sure Virat will treasure the first gift from Sai . My point was Sai hasn’t really put efforts to know his likes and dislikes . It’s not about this particular gift . I agree by buying a gift she conveyed a lot . It was a very sweet gesture . She was excited to see his reactions . She included him in the list of people she loves and those who support her in CN . Hope in her mind she hasn’t really divided the list into two - people she loves and people who support her .


Jab sai nhi hogi temporary to virat is bamboo tree ko har jagah leke ghume ga like in devdas paro use to lit a diya 4 devdas & carry it everywhere she goes.


Virat will sing " silsila ye chahat ka na mein sukhne diya oh sai."😆

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Originally posted by: fatssrilanka

Awesome analysis, Janki. Loved Virat and Sayi's teasing. Sayi's punching doll gift for Virat and him making a sad face was simply cute. And, when he refused to open the other gift which had the bamboo plant was so lovely. Loved it when he directly asked Sayi to drop 'Sir' was an indication that he is trying to break the barrier between them. Though she tried to avoid his gaze her blush just gave away how she felt and Virat too couldn't take his eyes away from her. And,thank God for the small mercy we didn't have to put up with Vedi Vahini barging in their private moment.

At first glance Kaku loved the Ganapati murti and was all praises but as soon as she came to know that it was Sayi who bought it she changed her stance. And, Sonali second it.

I fast forwarded Vedi Vahini's call to Virat so will not comment on it.

Enjoyed Virat and Sayi scenes thoroughly. And, I think this should be the last week where we will be able to get such scenes. Since, after that it will be the seperation track.

@bold: I felt she was watching when they took that shot from the doorway of Sai knocking at the bthroom door🤣 Vahini ka bhoot sab jagah hai...

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Read somewhere and also saw in the episode.. did anyone notice.. Sai getting angry at the mention of second marriage by Virat and breathed a sigh of relief when he mentioned Devi Tai.. Even this girl is so possesive.. Can Virat no read these eyes than looking for kya main parivar hu.. kya main dost hun answers... He should remember she only mentions deal when she is pissed off at Pakhi ..or when he mentions Pakhi...

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