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Posted: 4 years ago
#41

Originally posted by: -Sarcy-


It's interesting that people call Shaurya toxic basis just his 'supposedly misogynist' mentality. Whereas, people enjoy all of Gul's heroes who are (in)famous for manhandling their leading ladies all the time, in addition to the series of endless verbal assaults.


Shaurya, on the other hand, despite his upbringing has a sense of guilt every time he does something wrong towards Anokhi. He accepts his mistakes, reprimands her - sometimes going overboard due to her Aastha connection, though more out of jealousy and irritation than anything else, but never to the extent that attacks her self-worth. And the most important of all, he realises and accepts the need to apologize, when he is wrong - irrespective whether he may or may not actually have the courage to do it . Though we've seen him do it already. We've also seen his behavior and thoughts towards women in contrast with that of the other Sabherwal men (sans Shaan), and he's a far cry from anything misogynist in comparison.


One more point, he understands boundaries. During the post-valentine party clash with Vineet when he intervened to prevent Babli and Anokhi being assaulted, he only restrained Vineet and didn't actually beat him into a pulp. Though Vineet deserved to be beaten, Shaurya understood that him doing anything extreme may only make Babli and Anokhi's lives more difficult later on. And that is not something that can be said of most of MLs on ITV.


I absolutely love the way Shaurya is crafted. His flaws make him realistic and human, and I hope that his character remains such for a long, long time to come!

Well written!

We accept crying of men when after slight of abuse, he came with a teary eye sorry! Bit agar koi hero is shown human, fragile, has family issues, he is not even hero in their dictionary!

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Posted: 4 years ago
#42

Originally posted by: -Sarcy-


It's interesting that people call Shaurya toxic basis just his 'supposedly misogynist' mentality. Whereas, people enjoy all of Gul's heroes who are (in)famous for manhandling their leading ladies all the time, in addition to the series of endless verbal assaults.


Shaurya, on the other hand, despite his upbringing has a sense of guilt every time he does something wrong towards Anokhi. He accepts his mistakes, reprimands her - sometimes going overboard due to her Aastha connection, though more out of jealousy and irritation than anything else, but never to the extent that attacks her self-worth. And the most important of all, he realises and accepts the need to apologize, when he is wrong - irrespective whether he may or may not actually have the courage to do it . Though we've seen him do it already. We've also seen his behavior and thoughts towards women in contrast with that of the other Sabherwal men (sans Shaan), and he's a far cry from anything misogynist in comparison.


One more point, he understands boundaries. During the post-valentine party clash with Vineet when he intervened to prevent Babli and Anokhi being assaulted, he only restrained Vineet and didn't actually beat him into a pulp. Though Vineet deserved to be beaten, Shaurya understood that him doing anything extreme may only make Babli and Anokhi's lives more difficult later on. And that is not something that can be said of most of MLs on ITV.


I absolutely love the way Shaurya is crafted. His flaws make him realistic and human, and I hope that his character remains such for a long, long time to come!

True Gul heros are shown to have downright abusive traits and are very toxic. Only PH whose ML are not quite toxic are Rajan Shahi and DnG one. And I don't know if they changed Shaurya's character after misogynist flake or anything but he is not a MCP. I don't know why they marketed it as such.
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Posted: 4 years ago
#43

Originally posted by: Nomadic_Vibe

True Gul heros are shown to have downright abusive traits and are very toxic. Only PH whose ML are not quite toxic are Rajan Shahi and DnG one. And I don't know if they changed Shaurya's character after misogynist flake or anything but he is not a MCP. I don't know why they marketed it as such.

I dont think its changed!

Like i said in some other post, from external perspective ,he is a MCP which is not even calked out in shows and its covered with illogical points under Hero banner!


But his perspective is developed from a past which is being presented to him in a wrong way! ( Which is not the case of every mcp) .


This story is all about how two views interact and adapt kr even change!

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Girls I'll be very honest I used to be suckered for those MCP toxic heros too in my teens growing up because I read Mills and Boon and watched TV where this was considered "intense" and "passionate". Alpha male who are Tall Dark and Handsome were considered to be the dreamy bachelor who were also Casonova Bad boys. That's how my idea of Romance and passion was constructed but as and when I grew up I realized how wrong I have been all these years. My relationship expectations and behavior of men changed and so did my expectations of ITV ML. I am damn sure like the 90s Romance of creepy stalking is over and evolved in few years we will have well written ML on ITV too. I am quite positive.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: attiya1.3

I dont think its changed!

Like i said in some other post, from external perspective ,he is a MCP which is not even calked out in shows and its covered with illogical points under Hero banner!


But his perspective is developed from a past which is being presented to him in a wrong way! ( Which is not the case of every mcp) .


This story is all about how two views interact and adapt kr even change!

To be honest I am glad the CVS provided an actual valid reason for the ML perspective inserted of the usual ITV reasons for MCP behavior. And his evolution will be lovely to watch although till now he has not shown any indication in his professional life of being MCP but only in his personal life by asking Shagun to choose between him and her career. Let's see how they plan to address that issue.
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Posted: 4 years ago
#46

Originally posted by: Nomadic_Vibe

Girls I'll be very honest I used to be suckered for those MCP toxic heros too in my teens growing up because I read Mills and Boon and watched TV where this was considered "intense" and "passionate". Alpha male who are Tall Dark and Handsome were considered to be the dreamy bachelor who were also Casonova Bad boys. That's how my idea of Romance and passion was constructed but as and when I grew up I realized how wrong I have been all these years. My relationship expectations and behavior of men changed and so did my expectations of ITV ML. I am damn sure like the 90s Romance of creepy stalking is over and evolved in few years we will have well written ML on ITV too. I am quite positive.

O girl!! I was in the same boat.

During my teenage years, synonym of romance was this Alpha male ouTragious behaviour with girl.

But when I grew up, I realized what kind of crap i was fantasising. If someone behaves in sameway with me, forgot about dreaming about him or going gaga over him, I'll be disgusted to this kind of human for my whole life.🤢

Left ITV completely when I moved to hostel, but now when I look at shows now, I realize even though I'm grown up, ITV haven't. 🤦‍♀️

They are still selling same things for trp.

But now there are others well written characters, well written stories, actual romance also.

And I hope, as you said, It will evolve.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: krazykaju

O girl!! I was in the same boat.

During my teenage years, synonym of romance was this Alpha male ouTragious behaviour with girl.

But when I grew up, I realized what kind of crap i was fantasising. If someone behaves in sameway with me, forgot about dreaming about him or going gaga over him, I'll be disgusted to this kind of human for my whole life.🤢

Left ITV completely when I moved to hostel, but now when I look at shows now, I realize even though I'm grown up, ITV haven't. 🤦‍♀️

They are still selling same things for trp.

But now there are others well written characters, well written stories, actual romance also.

And I hope, as you said, It will evolve.

True...there are still ML here and there who are downright deplorable on ITV and it will take time to get over these "Bad Boys". But there is now a tiny bit of improvement in quality of ML from say 10 years back and now. First there was a template for ITV leads now that distinction is being slowly steadily being changed. Hope in the next decade or so they progress leaps and bounds if they want to survive.
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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: Nomadic_Vibe

True...there are still ML here and there who are downright deplorable on ITV and it will take time to get over these "Bad Boys". But there is now a tiny bit of improvement in quality of ML from say 10 years back and now. First there was a template for ITV leads now that distinction is being slowly steadily being changed. Hope in the next decade or so they progress leaps and bounds if they want to survive.

I really think We viewers are 60% responsible for this, if makers are considered 40% guilty. They are here for business, they sell what is in damand. Trps and popularity for these shows is always greater in comparison.

No better example then Gul and Ek. As Miserable the FL is, higher the trp is.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: krazykaju

I really think We viewers are 60% responsible for this, if makers are considered 40% guilty. They are here for business, they sell what is in damand. Trps and popularity for these shows is always greater in comparison.

No better example then Gul and Ek. As Miserable the FL is, higher the trp is.

No I 100% blame the audiences too. See the thing is demographics and target audience for TRP is above 40 women who may or may not have access to a career or a good education. Their views and perceptions of things are different. I too have some difference of opinion with my mother so it is possible that we may have different tastes in fictions. Also there is rural urban divide which could also explain viewership of certain genre of shows. But say in next decade or so we will become the target demographics rather than our parent's generation who wouldn't tolerate subpar work so those shows will be made according to our taste. We are better educated and career driven than the previous generations that's why I am positive. The biggest indicator for this shift is decreasing popularity of EK shows like the Bhagyas or Naagin and same with Gul shows like Jadu Jin and God knows what else lol
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Posted: 4 years ago
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There is nothing wrong with teacher student relationship. In real life it happens.

If both are adults and wants to be together their is nothing wrong with that. Love attractions can happen between anyone.

Love is not in own hand it can happen between two people.

We have seen in TV child marrying older guy...educated woman marrying a gunda

Old man getting married to a younger girl.

So what wrong with a hot looking teacher falling for a beautiful student.

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