A teacher - student romantic relationship! Why negative opinions? - Page 4

Originally posted by: Nomadic_Vibe

To play devil's advocate the student teacher relation taboo is in Indian context. Culturally Guru Shishya relationship is considered pious and pure in our culture. It is unconditional and sacred without negative emotions. While a romantic relationship have many aspects and relationships which can have different shades like lust jealousy etc which are considered negative emotions. Sexual context of the relationship between a teacher and student is frowned upon. Especially if the teacher has a track record of abusing his position of power. We have countless examples of Uni and school professor sexually abusing or blackmailing female students. It's about what we call "his nazar". If its a one off relationship I don't mind of. But if he has a track record of such predatory behavior of abusing his position then it its ethically and morally wrong even if the relationship is consenting. I have seen three real life examples of such relationships. One is a family member with an age gap of 10 years with a marriage of 20 years and now are divorced where my uncle was her English Professor and young handsome man of 29. Another example is of my UG class mate falling for our Endo Prof who was 14 years her senior and had quite a bad reputation with female students so we were skeptical that he is taking her advantage. We all say we shouldn't judge but truth is we do. The third is of another UG student getting married to our Ortho PG prof with 8 year age gap but after her graduation and in an arrange marriage set up. One was of a UG Male class mate getting caught with a 12 year seniors female profession in a compromising position. Parents also usually find it hard to accept such relationships even if it is pure due to sheer cliff one has to cross to be together. There are always allegations of bias, favoritism, abuse of power, coercion etc.

In islam, teachers are placed in position of parents! So yes, religiously, this perception can be penetrated. Bit ,i believe, non of them have quoted it wrong relationship!

The exploitation part is reality!

Parents never i agree i tell you. Maybe this generation parents can but, still unka bhi yehi perception hojata at the end!

Originally posted by: AK_2010

Isn't this the toxic nurturing we get through such shows?

I mean people would rather watch a majboor girl giving in to circumstances and seek protection from MCPs than watch two mature adults fall in love and get married on their own will....

I love this show more than I liked the bhabhi devar ema you spoke about... That was crap and I'm glad i quit it when there was still time.

Actually ,we as a society, accept men like this. Tall ,dark,handsome with manhandling females which is termed as passion!

Saakh is connected to reality unlike others!

I still watch it😂

Originally posted by: deepshiii

@bold That’s what..He speaks sense at least unlike others. Really can’t understand why don’t people want to watch shows jahan FL doesn’t have tsunami in her eyes and is strong willed and has a way through things.

Also, hi-5 for the smiling part😂🙈

Because in their reality, Females are restricted and doesnot speak in general! So with the itv medium, they like FL who takes 20 minutes of episode and end mn ML kahay " yeh sahi keh rahi hai."

P.s: i dont mean k aesa nhi hota. Hota hai, but i am quoting general perspective which i studied!

Originally posted by: attiya1.3

Actually ,we as a society, accept men like this. Tall ,dark,handsome with manhandling females which is termed as passion!

Saakh is connected to reality unlike others!

I still watch it😂

Passion it s acceptable but one should know when it is passionate and when is it abuse.

Sometimes twisting the wrist can be passionate but depending on the situation it can be abuse.

Gosh! Salute to your patience. Bcz that show would make my BP skyrocket into oblivion.

Originally posted by: attiya1.3

In islam, teachers are placed in position of parents! So yes, religiously, this perception can be penetrated. Bit ,i believe, non of them have quoted it wrong relationship!

The exploitation part is reality!

Parents never i agree i tell you. Maybe this generation parents can but, still unka bhi yehi perception hojata at the end!

Originally posted by: AK_2010

Passion it s acceptable but one should know when it is passionate and when is it abuse.

Sometimes twisting the wrist can be passionate but depending on the situation it can be abuse.

Gosh! Salute to your patience. Bcz that show would make my BP skyrocket into oblivion.

Exactly.

My mother watches!

I am just a silent spectator of nonsense😂

Originally posted by: Nomadic_Vibe

Exactly. There is a negative connotation too if the spirit and intention are wrong. Not only religiously but culturally too we are the land of Dhrona and Chanakya and other. So in both aspects this is a bit taboo. You are right there is no written or verbal rule in any religion about romantic relationships with your mentor but it's more of a societal thing. And the exploitation aspect is a reality too. I don't mind it in fiction as here they have established a backstory and there is no predatory aspect. Also the main attraction here is KV and Deba and their chemistry.

Actually we religiously placed them so high, thats why accepting them romantically is bit hard!

Originally posted by: Fahmida21

I heard that some people are calling Shaurya toxic. But thats an outcome of the way he was brought up and this is what the story revoves around. The change in personality and attitude toward life from Shaurya and Anokhi. The fact that people are willing to jump into conclusions without understanding is kind of sad...

It's interesting that people call Shaurya toxic basis just his 'supposedly misogynist' mentality. Whereas, people enjoy all of Gul's heroes who are (in)famous for manhandling their leading ladies all the time, in addition to the series of endless verbal assaults.

Shaurya, on the other hand, despite his upbringing has a sense of guilt every time he does something wrong towards Anokhi. He accepts his mistakes, reprimands her - sometimes going overboard due to her Aastha connection, though more out of jealousy and irritation than anything else, but never to the extent that attacks her self-worth. And the most important of all, he realises and accepts the need to apologize, when he is wrong - irrespective whether he may or may not actually have the courage to do it . Though we've seen him do it already. We've also seen his behavior and thoughts towards women in contrast with that of the other Sabherwal men (sans Shaan), and he's a far cry from anything misogynist in comparison.

One more point, he understands boundaries. During the post-valentine party clash with Vineet when he intervened to prevent Babli and Anokhi being assaulted, he only restrained Vineet and didn't actually beat him into a pulp. Though Vineet deserved to be beaten, Shaurya understood that him doing anything extreme may only make Babli and Anokhi's lives more difficult later on. And that is not something that can be said of most of MLs on ITV.

I absolutely love the way Shaurya is crafted. His flaws make him realistic and human, and I hope that his character remains such for a long, long time to come!

Originally posted by: -Sarcy-

It's interesting that people call Shaurya toxic basis just his 'supposedly misogynist' mentality. Whereas, people enjoy all of Gul's heroes who are (in)famous for manhandling their leading ladies all the time, in addition to the series of endless verbal assaults.

Shaurya, on the other hand, despite his upbringing has a sense of guilt every time he does something wrong towards Anokhi. He accepts his mistakes, reprimands her - sometimes going overboard due to her Aastha connection, though more out of jealousy and irritation than anything else, but never to the extent that attacks her self-worth. And the most important of all, he realises and accepts the need to apologize, when he is wrong - irrespective whether he may or may not actually have the courage to do it . Though we've seen him do it already. We've also seen his behavior and thoughts towards women in contrast with that of the other Sabherwal men (sans Shaan), and he's a far cry from anything misogynist in comparison.

One more point, he understands boundaries. During the post-valentine party clash with Vineet when he intervened to prevent Babli and Anokhi being assaulted, he only restrained Vineet and didn't actually beat him into a pulp. Though Vineet deserved to be beaten, Shaurya understood that him doing anything extreme may only make Babli and Anokhi's lives more difficult later on. And that is not something that can be said of most of MLs on ITV.

I absolutely love the way Shaurya is crafted. His flaws make him realistic and human, and I hope that his character remains such for a long, long time to come!

100% agree. He is portrayed as a human with complexities. Who doesn't have any complex aspect about themselves. Everyone to an extent has something toxic about them. But the way someone handles situations is really what makes them who they are. Shaurya is a layered character but he doesn't abuse his label as a man. Whereas most (if not all) ML on ITV have definitely done SOMETHING that abuses their power as a man.

Honestly, the fact that they are getting such good responses despite having a 7pm slot on SP just shows that the people who have issues is a very small percentage. And most likely watch kitchen politics 🤣. The show is new and refreshing.

Originally posted by: attiya1.3

Actually we religiously placed them so high, thats why accepting them romantically is bit hard!