Sai 'vahini' Ka rishta Dil se Dil Ke aitbaar ka... - Page 5

If Sai thinks Devi got emotional after hearing pulkits name - p se pulkit then how come she didn't recall pulkit's tears on hearing devi's story and make the connection. Initially she thought it was just tears on hearing a sad story. Sai is not so slow! 🙄

Originally posted by: AK_2010

Matlab na maan hai naa hi samman... Bas jhuti shaan hai 😆

At first I thought maybe its that Shahnav kuli maratha thing but phir realize kiya woh bhi bas idhar udhar ka status hai...

Ok so I don't know much about marathi culture.. what is exactly Shahnav kuli maratha.. like some royal family.. kahan ke raja- rani hain ye log???

Please someone enlighten me..

Originally posted by: jane_austen

Me after watching today's episode : 🥱(bored)

Me after reading Janki's post : 🤓(brain starts working)

I just differ on the intention of Bhavani in this whole drama. I feel , it is not a genuine care about Mohit 's future but shame over wounded family honour.

Of course, it is the false shaan for her, mainly, more than the concern for Mohit. But the bitter truth is that for many well-meaning parents too, "shaan" plays an important role. Children are raised, constantly compared with the neighbours or cousins and who becomes a doctor or engineer

Summarising what you have been saying in your previous posts (meri bathi aaj jali hai):-

Virat has got four versions of his personality : the one he is outside, within CN, with Ashwini and within the confines of his room (with Sai).

1) The outside version is an uncompromising, upright man with strong ethics - probably learnt from Ninad.

2) The family man persona is one who is willing to make compromises on the line between justice and injustice - if it means keeping the peace, getting acceptance. In the rare moments where he does speak up, it is either because he gains strength from his sense of farz or when the family crosses a limit (snatching food or chilly grinding). I'm interested to know what his stand was during the humiliation Mohit faced on his love marriage.

He must have been as silent as Mohit was during his time.

3)Ashwini's unconditional love has been the only reason for instilling in Virat the innate sensitivity and genuine care towards his family members. But Ashwini has never taugHt him how to handle the unpleasant aspects of his life in CN, because she herself has led a doormat existence - and he doesn't confide his vulnerabilities to her either.

4) Within his room he is the raw deal - vulnerable, insecure , chauvinistic and unable to deal with his emotions. Here he cannot escape, so he tries various methods to deal with these emotions - manipulation, blowing his top, focusing on Sai's flaws , controlling etc

@bold: also add care, affection and love when not vulnerable and insecure. It depends on the mood. His good and bad side for Sai is of a different level as compared to that which is for the family.

"But that's how all three sons have been conditioned in that house. Until it comes to a point where they are receiving the whiplash first hand, they remain indifferent and even unaware about the exact feeling the victims are feeling..in fact, even after being at the receiving end, they choose to ignore and want to avoid confrontation or escalation of the conflict where the confrontation is unavoidable. And when neither is possible, they will either leave the situation by physically moving away or switch off mentally with just one aim - shut the one who's more gullible." Simply brilliant 👏🥳. This explains Virat's moments of insensitivity towards Ashwini and Sai.

But having the pleasure of picking him apart and dissecting him at leisure , it is ultimately Sai who has to bear the brunt of this complex man. Having known people who are in relationship with complicated people, the struggles of the partners is immeasurably huge (depression, anxiety etc). It is not believable that an 18 year old (no matter how strong) can sort out this man.

I agree. But the fact is that he's not inherently bad and does not have his values misplaced. I would still not like to dismiss him as a man who would leave his spouse depressed. Ugly fights happen in the most in-love couple too and they are not yet in love. We will know soon whether we must classify him as that, let's keep this discussion stored in memory for immediate recall!😆

Originally posted by: neeraja91

If Sai thinks Devi got emotional after hearing pulkits name - p se pulkit then how come she didn't recall pulkit's tears on hearing devi's story and make the connection. Initially she thought it was just tears on hearing a sad story. Sai is not so slow! 🙄

Blame it on her "what-will-the-world-look-like-from-my-window-seat" flight mode + test I must give although Virat Sir asked me to skip the day at college mind... 🤔 She didn't recall Pulkit's reaction on hearing Devyani Chavan was of a man as pained as Devyani was when she heard Dr Pulkit Deshpande 😆

Originally posted by: msin

even if they are some kuli Maratha .. Sai is a Brahmin kanya .. how is that lower than them .. upar se they have tried hitting her refusing her food .. in ancient times even gates of hell

Would not open for them ..

I'm not sure about this... I am not a maratha but I was once told by someone that Marathas don't think highly of Brahmins or any other caste for that matter.

I am not saying this is a fact but this what I heard once which isn't very convincing... I don't know how true that is... I haven't ever met a maratha who looked down on me because I'm not a maratha... I think almost Har family mei pehla preference apne culture/religion/caste ke bride/groom ko hi milta hai unless the family is really open to intercaste marriage...

Originally posted by: AK_2010

I'm not sure about this... I am not a maratha but I was once told by someone that Marathas don't think highly of Brahmins or any other caste for that matter.

I am not saying this is a fact but this what I heard once which isn't very convincing... I don't know how true that is... I haven't ever met a maratha who looked down on me because I'm not a maratha... I think almost Har family mei pehla preference apne culture/religion/caste ke bride/groom ko hi milta hai unless the family is really open to intercaste marriage...

every famiky looks to marry it’s own kind .. easier to adjust and all that .. and especially the same state .. it’s difficult for a Bengali to adjust with a Marathi .. if both are rigid

But sayi is a Marathi girl too .. and she belongs to the Brahmin community.. No Hindu family which does mahabhoj ( Brahmin bhoj ) and calls priest over like they did .. can call her lower than them .. they should have avoided the chilli grinding fiasco if their purpose was to feed Brahmins and get their blessing ..to torture their own biradari girl was so not desired ..

Originally posted by: msin

every famiky looks to marry it’s own kind .. easier to adjust and all that .. and especially the same state .. it’s difficult for a Bengali to adjust with a Marathi .. if both are rigid

But sayi is a Marathi girl too .. and she belongs to the Brahmin community.. No Hindu family which does mahabhoj ( Brahmin bhoj ) and calls priest over like they did .. can call her lower than them .. they should have avoided the chilli grinding fiasco if their purpose was to feed Brahmins and get their blessing ..to torture their own biradari girl was so not desired ..

It is fact but they don't see her as 'Brahmin girl' but rather as a khuli saand who needs to be tamed. Sanskaar aur culture ka itna lihaz hota toh uss din puja mei Sai ko zabardasti alta lagane ko bhi nahi bolte aur nahi usko thappad marne ki dhamki dete...

@ janki

Ek small question , if u can answer .

if any woman colleague of virat comes to their life for cameo role only, virat do start praising her infront of sai like she did praised aniket or fake flirt with some random woman infront of sai d way she did with amay . How will sai react , kya kuch reaction aayega uska ?

I m not talking about pakhi coz I know sai can gift-wrap virat to pakhi .

Originally posted by: jankiraghav

Blame it on her "what-will-the-world-look-like-from-my-window-seat" flight mode + test I must give although Virat Sir asked me to skip the day at college mind... 🤔 She didn't recall Pulkit's reaction on hearing Devyani Chavan was of a man as pained as Devyani was when she heard Dr Pulkit Deshpande 😆

Hahaha. The timeline on this show is so screwed up. They are supposed to go on trip but instead Sai was studying for her test and Mohit drama is going on so i guess they meant they are going tomm. So virat should have said parson jaa rahe hai when they were talking about the packing/ID etc etc.

Originally posted by: jankiraghav

My view:

It's been nearly 8 hours since I am itching to reply to this, imagine "main kitna tadpi hoon" 😆

Haha....🤣🤣...

haan so, i agree with Nitu's part in @bold. The fact that he was uncomfortable with PP trying to feed him dinner and did not see her as "Vahini who had haq to do parvaah" is very evident. But, I am not sure if it is exactly because he has "realised her intentions" but because in that moment he was so vulnerable in the middle of a terrible fight and he just wanted Sai around him, not PP.

Or because, as @msin (*Please tell me your name, dear) said in @red that he actually doesn't think of her as a "Vahini". If he did, he would have addressed her as "Vahini/Bhabhi" by now. I tend to believe that his discomfort comes from the knowledge that they shared an emotion which they wanted to translate into a relationship but couldn't -- she's his 'missed opportunity' who was betrothed to his cousin before he found her again. He feels "morally" obliged to maintain that distance from her, which is why he refrains from the slightest of touch, except while she was made to grind chillies, which he did more as an instinctive response to correct what "We"- Sai and he --did wrong.

From my personal experience, I am saying this, just because Virat doesn't call Pakhi as Vahini or Bhabhi doesn't mean he don’t consider them as one. In my family, I had not seen anyone call Bhai, bhabhi but we do treat them as Bhai Bhabhi.

I agree with you about the touching part. He puts extra effort not to touch her. I remember seeing him hug Karishma during Samrat’s Haldi. He realizes his innocent gestures can be seen in the wrong way and he doesn't want anyone to feel this way because there is nothing like that. That's the reason he doesn't like when Sai talks as if Pakhi Virat are a couple. Her kabab mein haadi, give valentine rose to her irritates him because she doesn't realize Pakhi is his brother's wife.

Having said that, I would like to point out that he was ok accompanying Pp to Ladakh and was supportive of Mobit going it as well so if he had any leftover feelings he would not have done that. His values would have stopped him from doing so.

But @blue: does his statement on Sai having the vahini haq on Mohit come from a chauvinistic attitude? I am not sure. I don't think at that moment he processed so much to think of it from his chauvinistic side (Which he definitely has given that Sai should be okay with 'pyarosti' but she can't dance to another man's music or prank call an aunt's fraudster boyfriend without making the 'husband' him go crazy). Virat, as we know, reacts slowly. So, I don't think he said it in the way to already 'tell off' Mohit and Karishma to draw the vahini line. If that were the case, then he would have objected to Karishma insulting Sai during the screaming match he had before Amey came, where he was so upset due to his jealousy that he even allowed Karishma to get away with talking rubbish to Sai. How he will react to Mohit and Sai's friendly relation remains to be seen but I think from the initial family interactions during Samrat's wedding, they seem to be a fun-loving generation, set aside the tragedies they all have. I think if the story wasn't what it is, the three couples would have gotten along very well. But yes, he might raise questions if Mohit were to ask Sai to accompany someone alone to meet him in a secluded place -- not suspiciously, but out of his protective nature. There is a difference between Mohit and Amey-Aniket. One: He is the brother in the same house. He knows Mohit. Two: Mohit is married to someone he 'loves', so he wouldn't go after Sai.

Even if Mohit was unmarried, I Dont think he would suspect them. Anyone in his position would be curious to know if a BIL wants to meet his brother’s wife in a secluded place. In Amey’s tract, he was more protective than possessive but in Aniket’s track he was more insecure than protective.

Virat’s jealousy is not because he is an MCP, it's more to do with his insecurity and the kind of relationship they share today. If he was an MCP we would have seen this trait in him long back. I can confidently say if Sairat had normal marriage, Virat would not have felt jealous of Aniket or Amay. I cannot say what happens in future but from what they have shown till now he was never an MCP and I believe he is doesn't have patriarchal thinking. I think @Janaki, you would not agree with me on this.

But the @green I tend to agree with it. He wanted to project Sai as an extension of him or rather a "team member". It is "WE" for him now. She is his "half" so she is also to be seen and respected for being someone who will always have "parvaah" for the family. Yes, his statement was to give her that attachment in the household. "Wo Mohit ki bhabhi hai", by the virtue of being "my wife and ghar ki bahu". It is his attempt to live up to that promise to self - "Jo maan aur izzat ki tum haqdaar ho, main doonga"... and of course, his biggest angst with her has been her lose cannon nature which he feels aggravates the fights and doesn't allow him to push her up in front of the family on the seat of the Queen-to-be, beside him. So, it was a moment when she was clearly right, speaking in low decibels and standing up for someone else in the house. Out of also the value system they share, the pride was visible.

Agree. He wanted to let people know that as his wife he has the right to get involved in family talks. In a way, he asserted that she is his wife in every way, not just a deal wali wife who has no rights to talk about family matters.

Again it's from personal experience, I dont believe Virat was trying to send a message that she is ma saman bhabhi of Mohit stressing on ma. Not every bhabhi is treated as ma saman. Some are given that status for a reason. Usually, we see if the Bhabhi is way older than her Devar she would have taken care of him like a mother or if she has sacrificed for the family. Mohit Sai or Samrat Sai or Virat Karishma or Virat Pakhi or Samrat Karishma will never share such feelings ( Ma Saman ) for their brother's wife.

My answers in pink. This post is quite colorful