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Posted: 4 years ago
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Pagdandiya track was most probably click bait . They were losing viewers interest and they needed to throw us some scraps to bring us back to the show. It was a planned cheap trick to show Aditya being so affected and devastated by Imlie's neard death. Those in the forum who thought Aditya has already developed some soft corner or even subconscious feelings for Imlie weren't that far fetched idea after all. Okay just do this litmus test. Show the Imlie getting shot to the next 3 episodes to any person who doesn't watch the show and doesn't know anything about the story, tell him or her to see it as standalone. Anyone will observe their interactions and Aditya's reaction and feelings and say yes the guy is either in love already or going to fall in love. So what is the fault of a section of the viewers if they go by what was shown on their tv screen ??

Edited by MusicMuse - 4 years ago
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Posted: 4 years ago
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Hi guys 😊


So I've finally snapped out of my speechless mode. This current Imlie just isn't conducive to coherent thought. Couldn't even stomach watching that precap scene with the apple let alone the second-hand clothes scene (your posts were an amazing headsup for me, so I was able to swerve those scenes nicely 😆). All I'm going to say about those scenes is that the writers must step away from the regressive well they are chugging from at the moment and get back to the essence of Imlie's character which they had originally carved out.🤔


Coming to this new upcoming Adilie scene. Whilst I'm glad Aditya will literally give Imlie a much needed wake-up call...I think that "I should have left you to die" is pushing it too farDamn, that's harsh and frankly makes no sense after that rain sequence. All that weeping by Mr Chief Executive Reporter simply washed away.


Honestly it seems like the writers are in some sort of back-pedaling panic because they may be feeling they over-did Adi's emotional reaction to Imlie way too soon in the show. After the Pagdandiya track, it's like they suddenly thought "Oh damn now we have to show that Adi still loves Malini" and are clearly struggling to make that believable without making Imlie a sudden irritant in front of Adi to counteract his extreme emotional reaction during the rain sequence. In fact, they aren't just butchering Imlie's character here...Adi's character is also deteriorating because he's reverted back to pretending Imlie is non-existent to him despite all his tall promises to her.


Anyway this back-pedaling is annoying and there's clearly no "naya mod" in sight here but I'll still take watching Adilie revert back to their combatant mode than this humiliating regressive behavior from Imlie. It may be awful to hear Adi say something so deeply hurtful to her but I'll stomach it if it actually has the desired reaction we want from Imlie. She needs to take that big spotlight she constantly has on Adi and shine it on herself instead. Set her priorities straight cos seriously if they keep going in this direction, it'll be hard for Adilie's love-story to be based on anything other than pity which will destroy their appeal for me completely. 😒

Edited by Snazzy_Naz - 4 years ago
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Posted: 4 years ago
#63

Originally posted by: AreYaar


My issue isn't just that he doesn't speak up for Imlie in front of Mrs. C....even in general, he allows for Imlie to be treated like a servant and allows her to constantly demean herself. Nowhere does it say that if he does the bare minimum in saying to Imlie ki no, you need to not keep considering yourself a servant, toh utne mein Malini will get "hurt". Why is it constantly being made an either Malini or Imlie choice? Giving Imlie basic human respect and not treating her like wallpaper in that house has nothing to do with Malini....these comparisons are being forced in.


But that is what the makers insist on showing.....again and again, almost every scene is about Adi being completely absorbed in himself or his life with Malini with just a passing thought spared for Imlie. You don't need to be in love with someone to give them that much regard.....especially someone who basically almost died for you. Agar uske baad bhi humanity na jaage, then you really lose any bare minimum respect for that person.


The fact that the writers are undoing all the progress of the gunshot epis is a real pity. Adi has misbehaved with Imlie before that also but I could still understand his convoluted helplessness to some extent then and chalk it up to a difference in viewpoint.....for him to do all this now after the gunshot incident really brings his character down further.


Uptil a point, Adi-Imlie shared a special connection regardless of the forced marriage that had tied them together.....but off late, the writers have completely dropped the ball in terms of continuity after the gunshot saga. Adi-Imlie don't need scenes with each other to prove a connection....that could have been proven through showing some kind of scenes of Adi thinking about what happened in PD, the gunshot scenes.....but he's literally had ZERO thoughts about that since.....that is a huge dropping of the ball after a high point.....if you don't even show any internal character reflection, there is nothing to build a connection over.


Instead, the writers seem more interested in proving that Imlie is a buffoon, that she is a pain, and that Adi is right to resent her presence in his life. Bhai yehi sab karna tha toh why bother with the PD track to begin with? It's all bizarre now.


I so agree with your words. If today they do not show him intervening but just blasting her (i totallyget the point of it) then the whole progress since PD will go down the drain including Aditya's character. I could justify his actions till date but if he just lets her be man-handled after claiming responsibility and knowing why she did it then I would actually question his righteous character and the whole award speech. I was so expecting the writers to cash in on the connection, show things where we see he is moving toward her unknowingly but now it looks like they are still deciding on what they want to do with Aditya.

Edited by pamk06 - 4 years ago
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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: AreYaar


I get your point about why they wanted to play up sympathy for Imlie....but I'm just amused thinking that what more sympathy needed to be brought on for a girl who literally almost died a week back trying to save Adi's life? Did that not count for anything?😆.....we all thought that would be a big turning point in showing both Adi and Imlie where their relationship stands......she basically almost died for him and he looked totally shaken up by it.


But hua kya? In just 2 days, that all became rendered pointless....they barely showed 2-3 token scenes of Adi showing bare minimum concern for her and then totally transitioned to showing Imlie as moronic as possible. Everything they are showing with her this week is so obviously moronic and half-baked, even TRP audience will be confused about what to sympathize with.


Also, can sympathy only be generated by showing Imlie like a moron that Adi shouts at? Instead of showing a clash of two point of views, they are only ramping up scenes of Imlie being shown as an obvious idiot to then justify Adi scolding her and making her such an obvious irritant all around......I'm really not sure what the larger picture with that is.


Push/pull toh tab hoga if there was any conflict within Adi post Imlie's return from the hospital....but there is literally zero sense of that. So many people here presumed he's already subconsciously in love with Imlie.....but where is the evidence of that? I don't see any.....love toh chhodo, he's not even on the bare minimum path of feeling some guilt for the state Imlie is in - being treated like a servant in his family and life. If you have any care/concern for a person, you do not allow them to demean themselves like this......Adi simply is too self-absorbed to bother with any of that for Imlie....so what love?


And that again makes me think, even if a new guy shows up in Imlie's life, there is nothing in the story right now to show it would make any difference to Adi.....he just isn't in that zone with Imlie....the staggering levels of self-absorption in this guy are something else.....if Imlie's near death couldn't trigger any sense of actual responsibility in him, nothing can.


He made tall claims of living up to his responsibility towards Imlie when she was dying in the ambulance....but the moment she woke up, all of that went poof.


So I really don't think the writers are showing any inclination of taking this in any concrete direction....they seem to have settled for one episode of a friendly convo b/w Adi-Imlie and then 3 epis later, back to Adi scolding/demeaning Imlie.....this stays on rinse/repeat mode with no movement....even after a high point like the gunshot track.


Bold - I didn't think he was subconsciously in love with Imlie after the PD/gun-shot track. But, I did think he felt some sort of connection and he was beginning to understand that this girl somehow has a special place in his life. In last two episodes, all that progress has been wiped out.


If the makers do have Adilie as an endgame in mind, they should be more careful about how they portray the relationship between Adilie and Adini. If Aditya's relationship with Malini is perfect and complete (like they have shown in the last two episodes), if there is nothing missing in their relationship , if there is no invisible connection between Aditya and Imlie, then why would viewers even want/accept Imlie in the picture? Then Adini's and Imlie's paths are completely different and they should just go seperate ways.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: MusicMuse

Pagdandiya track was most probably click bait . They were losing viewers interest and they needed to throw us some scraps to bring us back to the show. It was a planned cheap trick to show Aditya being so affected and devastated by Imlie's neard death. Those in the forum who thought Aditya has already developed some soft corner or even subconscious feelings for Imlie weren't that far fetched idea after all. Okay just do this litmus test. Show the Imlie getting shot to the next 3 episodes to any person who doesn't watch the show and doesn't know anything about the story, tell him or her to see it as standalone. Anyone will observe their interactions and Aditya's reaction and feelings and say yes the guy is either in love already or going to fall in love. So what is the fault of a section of the viewers if they go by what was shown on their tv screen ??


Nope they have no fault at all. That reaction from Adi was so gut-wrenchingly extreme that anyone would make that assumption. So you're right, it must have been click bait because they have to keep both Adilie and Adini fans hooked. Pagdandiya track was for Adilie fans...current Imlie-Loves-Leftovers track is for Adini fans. This is afterall a serial and therefore it must run for a long time, so it seems the writers may be regretting the progression they gave to Adilie in the form of the Pagdandiya track because naturally viewers would expect that same progression to carry on after their return to Delhi. Now they are trying to find every reason to return Adi's accusatory and awful view of Imlie to the way it was prior to Pagdandiya track...Imlie's character be damned. I guess they hope viewers somehow have amnesia and don't remember all that happened in Pagdandiya.

Edited by Snazzy_Naz - 4 years ago
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Posted: 4 years ago
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ben farklı düşünüyorum.Adityanın bazı sahnelerine bir göz atalım.

1.Ödülünü imlie ile paylaşması onun mutlu görüp sevinmesi.

2. pasta yerken Malini ona yedirirken arkada imlie yi görüp pastayı acıyla yutkunması

3.Anu nun ona hakaretlerinden sonra gözünden yaşlar akması

4.Anu ya karşı çıkması elbiseler için

5.imlie ben insanları çok seviyorum .bazıları bu sevgiyi öfkeyle belli eder derken aditya nın ya ben demesi

Bizde bir atasözü vardır insan sevdiği kişiyi yerden yere vururmuş. Aditya çok ağır konuştu.fakat o sözlerin altında sende bende ölseydik bugünki olay olmazdı dedi.bu üzücü kızgınlık anlık söylenmişti.hoşuma gitmedi.hayatını senin için riske atan karına bu söylenmezdi.biraz adityada bencilik hisediyorum.aman kimse rahatsız olmasın tavrı.

imlie ye değer verip hoşlandığınıda düşünüyorum.korumacı bir yapı hissetim.yine söylemek istiyorum bizi en çok üzen sevdiklerimiz.bunu imlie anu bağırdı dedi onu umursamadığını.şimdi adityanın bu söylemi onu çok derinden etkileyecek.artık oda baskası için değil kendisi için yaşamaya karar vermeli.ayyy çok yazdım kendimi tutamadım.çeviri nasıl olur nasıl anlaşılır bilmiyorum.hata varsa affedin.

Edited by nazsun - 4 years ago
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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: nazsun

ben farklı düşünüyorum.Adityanın bazı sahnelerine bir göz atalım.

1.Ödülünü imlie ile paylaşması onun mutlu görüp sevinmesi.

2. pasta yerken Malini ona yedirirken arkada imlie yi görüp pastayı acıyla yutkunması

3.Anu nun ona hakaretlerinden sonra gözünden yaşlar akması

4.Anu ya karşı çıkması elbiseler için

5.imlie ben insanları çok seviyorum .bazıları bu sevgiyi öfkeyle belli eder derken aditya nın ya ben demesi

Bizde bir atasözü vardır insan sevdiği kişiyi yerden yere vururmuş. Aditya çok ağır konuştu.fakat o sözlerin altında sende bende ölseydik bugünki olay olmazdı dedi.bu üzücü kızgınlık anlık söylenmişti.hoşuma gitmedi.hayatını senin için riske atan karına bu söylenmezdi.biraz adityada bencilik hisediyorum.aman kimse rahatsız olmasın tavrı.

imlie ye değer verip hoşlandığınıda düşünüyorum.korumacı bir yapı hissetim.yine söylemek istiyorum bizi en çok üzen sevdiklerimiz.bunu imlie anu bağırdı dedi onu umursamadığını.şimdi adityanın bu söylemi onu çok derinden etkileyecek.artık oda baskası için değil kendisi için yaşamaya karar vermeli.ayyy çok yazdım kendimi tutamadım.çeviri nasıl olur nasıl anlaşılır bilmiyorum.hata varsa affedin.

Çok güzel ifade edildi. Tüm amacınıza katılıyorum. Tüm noktalar adil ve haklı. Bu konuşma Imlie için Aditya'nın sözlerine, özellikle de "Seni ölüme terk etmeliydin." Umarım bundan sonra iç gözlemle başlar. Yoksa gösteri kaybolur.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: AreYaar

Uptil a point, Adi-Imlie shared a special connection regardless of the forced marriage that had tied them together.....but off late, the writers have completely dropped the ball in terms of continuity after the gunshot saga. Adi-Imlie don't need scenes with each other to prove a connection....that could have been proven through showing some kind of scenes of Adi thinking about what happened in PD, the gunshot scenes.....but he's literally had ZERO thoughts about that since.....that is a huge dropping of the ball after a high point.....if you don't even show any internal character reflection, there is nothing to build a connection over.


Absolutely spot on! I don't get how they quite happily show us an immeasurable number of flashbacks of the forced wedding but are yet to show us Adi internally reflecting on the one incident that shook him to the core. During Pagdandiya track, I loved that scene when he internally reflected on why he becomes a different person when Imlie comes in front of him and that other scene when he was leaving Imlie and reflecting on why he was only worried about her safety and wellbeing instead of being happy to leave behind everything that kept him from living his life the way he wanted. So if it was ok to show him self-reflecting like that BEFORE the gunshot, I expected this self-reflection to highten not diminish after his extreme reaction to almost losing her forever.


If they are worried about moving Adilie forward too fast before playing out Adini's relationship...that doesn't mean that they should make Adilie's behaviour unnatural in the bid to do that.

Edited by Snazzy_Naz - 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: Snazzy_Naz


Absolutely spot on! I don't get how they quite happily show us an immeasurable number of flashbacks of the forced wedding but are yet to show us Adi internally reflecting on the one incident that shook him to the core. During Pagdandiya track, I loved that scene when he internally reflected on why he becomes a different person when Imlie comes in front of him and that other scene when he was leaving Imlie and reflecting on why he was only worried about her safety and wellbeing instead of being happy to leave behind everything that kept him from living his life the way he wanted. So if it was ok to show him self-reflecting like that BEFORE the gunshot, I expected this self-reflection to highten not diminish after his extreme reaction to almost losing her forever.


If they are worried about moving Adilie forward too fast before playing out Adini's relationship...that doesn't mean that they should make Adilie's behaviour unnatural in the bid to do that.


Exactly....they used to show these little bits of self-reflection from him before the gunshot track, and I naturally assumed that given his extremely emotional reaction seeing Imlie almost dying, they would ramp up the self-reflection in some form, tiny as it may be....but they totally stopped it😕


I mean it really is surreal that the writers expect us to totally forget that Adi was like this with Imlie in the ambulance




This Adi is now going to say he wished she had died? 😕


I don't have any doubts about what is the endgame....it's obviously going to be Adi-Imlie....but the writers have definitely fumbled with the gunshot track if they were not ready to show some progression. Heck, progression chhodo, they have in some ways regressed Adi-Imlie even further from before the PD track.


Adi's guilt regarding Malini was already omnipresent....there was no need to show Imlie being so self-demeaning when it served no purpose.....Adi CONSTANTLY scolds her....whether happy or sad....and I'm DAMN tired of it. There is no relationship to be built out of such an imbalanced dynamic....it could be funny 1 or 2 times....but it's not funny anymore that Imlie is expected to build her entire life cowering or grumbling over Babusahib ki "daant".


I don't get why it's even so hard for the writers....I mean all they need to do is show some scenes of Adi seeking out Imlie on his own just to talk about general things....everything doesn't need to be painted with a "romantic" brush and instantly go all up in arms labeled as "cheating" on Malini....they are being so OTT about it like Adi even sparing one thought for Imlie means he's "cheated" Malini😕

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: pamk06


I so agree with your words. If today they do not show him intervening but just blasting her (i totallyget the point of it) then the whole progress since PD will go down the drain including Aditya's character. I could justify his actions till date but if he just lets her be man-handled after claiming responsibility and knowing why she did it then I would actually question his righteous character and the whole award speech. I was so expecting the writers to cash in on the connection, show things where we see he is moving toward her unknowingly but now it looks like they are still deciding on what they want to do with Aditya.


I have serious doubts he will intervene to stop Mrs. C from blasting her but I'd love to be proven wrong😆


He hasn't really claimed any responsibility despite making that statement in the ambulance....he barely does token checking in on Imlie and tab bhi, most of the time he still grumbles to her face or puts her down.


Can you recall one statement he's said to her that's about positive reinforcement to build her self-esteem? And I really don't get why that's so hard. No matter what his own guilt trip or selfishness is, nothing gives him the right to keep chipping away at someone's self-esteem like this. If Imlie is being an idiot, usko pyar se samjhaao....instead he constantly talks down to her, talks to her like she's an irritant....what way is this to talk to someone you claim to feel some responsibility for?


Yes, the writers seem to be in clueless mode right now just checking off random TRP boxes😆.....they really don't care if they show Adi giving a righteous speech one day and then reverting to usual put downs of Imlie the next.....consistency is not the goal here😆

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