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Posted: 4 years ago
#71

Originally posted by: ShumiM

Wonderful analysis.but this track could have make sense earlier but not now coz what kabir did to ridhima its very difficult to connect with his new found obsessive love🤮.jab kabir uska deep love baya kar rahe the main bhi like keya karu main mar jau 🤔

Thanks.

i know it might look off...for some viewers...

But look at kabir now...he never had his mum around in his childhood....n later when she was with him..he planned to snatch away everything from vansh...he didn't get the whole vr property, he didn't get the status nor the power....


It is not about riddhima..he will happily sacrifice her again...he loves himself the most...but it is his loss, he lost the selfless love...which vansh has now...his ego is hurt by vansh ... ridz chose vansh over him despite his heavy manipulation n way before knowing kabir's true face...this has left a mark on him...he didn't acknowledge it...but vansh's confrontation n calling himself khushnaseeb did break him...n now he wants her ...

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Posted: 4 years ago
#72

Originally posted by: vallu123

i know it might look off...for some viewers...

But look at kabir now...he never had his mum around in his childhood....n later when she was with him..he planned to snatch away everything from vansh...he didn't get the whole vr property, he didn't get the status nor the power....


It is not about riddhima..he will happily sacrifice her again...he loves himself the most...but it is his loss, he lost the selfless love...which vansh has now...his ego is hurt by vansh ... ridz chose vansh over him despite his heavy manipulation n way before knowing kabir's true face...this has left a mark on him...he didn't acknowledge it...but vansh's confrontation n calling himself khushnaseeb did break him...n now he wants her ...

No u are absolutely correct. This exactly the case. Its the selfless love which once Riddhima entitled him willingly he had condoned for his greed and ambition of destroying Vansh.Ab usey woh wapas chahiye. Knowing welk its not possible he is hell bent behind him.
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Posted: 4 years ago
#73

Originally posted by: Priya12000


I don't think he is teaching any lesson to riddhima and also neither to kabir..

Vansh not telling riddhima abt his work and riddhima understanding it shows riddhima's trust and maturity. She really doesn't have anything to do with his business..i dont see any lesson in this from vansh.

I disagree, vansh doesn't look at riddhima as a porcelain doll. vansh loves riddhima..his possessiveness is showing clearly..the perspective you have makes vansh look like a psychopath..vansh doesn't control riddhima in any way..he knows and we know that he can never control that 5 foot walking drone.

For him, he was stuck between his wife and sister. And he wanted to save one and not let go of the other either..so he chose a convenient path... is he right... absolutely not..but it just makes him an extremely flawed person..he did what he thought he had to do.


Coming to Kabir, vansh knew that Kabir has emotionally manipulating riddhima, he knows that it was kabir who instigated vansh during the revenge track so he is just giving a taste of kabir's own medicine. And kabir being impulsive and emotionally weak the riddhima and vansh snapped at the first chance he got.

I agree. Especially in vanshs part. Its not because of being a blind liker of the character..but I genually connect more to Vanshs deep love and possessiveness towards ridhima more than Kabirs claim of love. Vansh just craved for a normal relationship with ridhima..where they give each other space yet share their lives with each other...he is not manipulating her with love..he is not Deep...he genually love her deeply...the revenget track also showed that.. the hurt was deep because he had started to deeply feel for her...

He claims her infront of Kabir because thats the real truth of life now..like it or not Kabir, but she belongs to him now..and indeed you have lost something very precious in your blindness of destroying Vansh.

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Posted: 4 years ago
#74

Originally posted by: bahi.

I think phoenix27 shares the same opinion as mine, and explains it better what I'm also trying to say.

you're right, riddhima doesn't need permission to do things, but she certainly gets stopped by Vansh if she breaks his so called rules. When the car accident happen Vansh tells Riddhima she can go anywhere she wants he will never stop her. But later he commands her not to walk out of the house. He talks from the heart sometimes and sometimes he brains overtakes everything. We all know he does this to protect her. She is more like a princess to me than a queen. But even a queen is below King (if we stay in the kingdom world). I don't believe that a relationship should be equal in all areas - Riansh's love is true and beautiful in their own way. Vansh admits Riddhima is stronger than her. She is. So I am not complaining it's a dark show, so it's bound to be this way. Our morals won't work on this show all the time😛. Especially mine, cause I'm similar to Riddhima (not in every aspect) . But i'm also very stubborn and do what please me. But as a partner I expect that I can be vulnerable in front my partner so should he. We should be able to show the dark scars as well and accept it. Vansh hasn't reach there yet. He still doesn't let her touch his scars. If he did then I accept that he treats her equal to him. Riddhima will always understand him better and will doubt him less and trust him more.

He says she is his shadow, but really? She only know him to a limited extend. But I accept that this it the way Riansh will be. Vansh protecting her by hiding his dark side but love her and treasure her. And Riddhima showing him the meaning of life.


Obviously our opinions diff.. in my opinion the queen is not below the king..even in a kingdom..for the outside world it sure looks like that .even on the throne both of them sit next to each other.

To me, vansh not revealing abt his dark side doesn't mean he doesn't want to not share it..He fears of losing her. She already tried to leave him once when he showed his revenge side..Old habits die hard..Even after promising, riddhima can't stop spying and vansh can't stop hiding.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: ShumiM

Wonderful analysis.but this track could have make sense earlier but not now coz what kabir did to ridhima its very difficult to connect with his new found obsessive love🤮.jab kabir uska deep love baya kar rahe the main bhi like keya karu main mar jau 🤔

Thanks.

This track is quite all of a sudden to handle but its the most anticipated one.. logics sab rukh rakke dekhna padega 😂

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Posted: 4 years ago
#76

Originally posted by: phoenix27


with will you can bend the world, but you can't make a person love you differently (change has to from that person only). Vansh loves her immensely but he is not ready to show her his dark scars, the day vansh will be able to show her that she will be his queen for me.


queen of the game for sure, but vansh queen, i don't she has reached there yet.

Vansh not showing his scars doesn't mean he doesn't think her as his equal..His main fear is to lose her.she already tried to leave him when he showed his revenge phase.Everything vansh did during the current track is so that he ll not lose her.. sometime he cannot handle... We just need to agree to diasgree

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: pyaar2012

Regarding the Queen vs Princess

Vansh is the king and Riddhima is a Queen to be.

Vansh by nature is overprotective specially to the ladies of the house.

Firstly I agree that there is no submissive dominant relationship here

Vansh 's rules the hurdles created by him.can never stop her to go against the norms he set.

Ridfhima always do what she wants. She gets hurt by that process. Vansh dont want that. He tries to protect her like a strict yet loving father (He treats everyone like that but the others did not defy him)Riddhima defies him and that makes her the Queen.

She bring him to the edge of the temple and made him take the aarti when they first meet near Bappa 's temple. He was a non believer of God and she is a staunch believer. But still he came and took the aarthi or she made sure he takes that.

She slapped Aryan and she was forgiven though Vansh is a protector.

Riddhima played a part of a warrior in the entire Ragini fiasco and his numb serum could not stop her

I dont wanna elaborate my post but there are 100instances that she was a queen.

In case of Handcuff and his house arrest Ridfdhima broke the rule and track down the juvenile home and got the papers. He even did not take any drastic step regarding the truth serum thing.

There are many wives who does not show interest in their husband's business call.

The saree scn was just a obsessive way of gifting.So i think on the basis of that we cannot call her submissive. Its just the new found or u can rebooted trust she is showing to him. We are not very used to "Good Girl Riiddhima"😝😝Isnt it.

Thank you..this is what i meant... fantastically put 👏👏👏

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Posted: 4 years ago
#78

Originally posted by: pyaar2012

Priya, keemat toh Ridhu chukayegi. Kabir kuch bara karke riddhima ko as a person shayed chin lega.


Deal cracking k din kabir kuch vi kar sakta hai

Blackmail

Manipulation (This is the hardest thing bt he is a master of it )

Ridfhima can come in front of the duo or in the feat of saving Vansh she may gt head injuries and memory loss so technically kuch bhi ho sakta hai

Ek bat hai whenever it come to Keemat chukana Yeh Riansh ne sath mein chukaye hai except he got married to him that was the keemat Riddhima ne akeli chukai thi...

Blackmailing sounds so cliche so ITV yaar..I was hoping for a memory loss though..if that happens then it will vansh jo keemat chukayega

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: Abida_angel

I agree. Especially in vanshs part. Its not because of being a blind liker of the character..but I genually connect more to Vanshs deep love and possessiveness towards ridhima more than Kabirs claim of love. Vansh just craved for a normal relationship with ridhima..where they give each other space yet share their lives with each other...he is not manipulating her with love..he is not Deep...he genually love her deeply...the revenget track also showed that.. the hurt was deep because he had started to deeply feel for her...

He claims her infront of Kabir because thats the real truth of life now..like it or not Kabir, but she belongs to him now..and indeed you have lost something very precious in your blindness of destroying Vansh.

Completely agree. We can never compare vansh's love to that of kabir or deep.

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Posted: 4 years ago
#80

Originally posted by: vallu123

i know it might look off...for some viewers...

But look at kabir now...he never had his mum around in his childhood....n later when she was with him..he planned to snatch away everything from vansh...he didn't get the whole vr property, he didn't get the status nor the power....


It is not about riddhima..he will happily sacrifice her again...he loves himself the most...but it is his loss, he lost the selfless love...which vansh has now...his ego is hurt by vansh ... ridz chose vansh over him despite his heavy manipulation n way before knowing kabir's true face...this has left a mark on him...he didn't acknowledge it...but vansh's confrontation n calling himself khushnaseeb did break him...n now he wants her ...

Agree..he till now was trying to snatch something that was never his..but now he decides to get back the one he lost. He feels this one would be easy because he already possessed it once, he can easily get it back. He has a chance.

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