Sisterhood.. is there such a thing?

This made me realise how incredibly lucky I have been for I have been surrounded by women who have pushed me, time and again, to go beyond my limits.

And so, I cannot tolerate when other women -educated,modern and what not- pull each other down. It's absolutely despicable and a thing that I wouldn't even wish for people I dislike.

I genuinely believe if you cannot be happy for another, at the very least keep your bitterness to yourself, do not try to oull abyone down when they are at their highs.

What is the use of your education and your pride in it, if you raise your voice against somebody wanting to achieve their dreams. I mean if that is how you react, then I don't care about your certificates, because you've failed your education and teachers.

Coming to your title, yes there is. I am very lucky for I have 5 best friends cum sisters.

Family drama is the back bone of the Itv shows. We can't really do anything about it unless everyone stop watching it. We the younger people may be don't like this family drama (still we are watching ghkkpm) but the older ones enjoy this so when we decide not to watch such shows then only this family drama will end.

Everyone love a bit of drama.

If like you said Paaki, Sai and Karishma joined together then where will be the drama? 😆 and the point is it's mostly the women who bring drama into the family. 🤪

I agree with what you said above word by word. Atleast Paaki should have supported Sai in this matter after all she wants Sai to become doctor soon and leave Virat and Chavan house but then why she would stand against her. Sai wouldn't leave until she become doctor Mrs Mature Pathralekha.

She should support, not only she but all the woman should support other to rise in their position but this will not happen anytime soon. For this we have to accept a person with flaws. And some people like to see other down. We always laugh when we see someone falling down, we always laugh when we see someone is being laughed at, we always laugh when we see someone is mocked at. This won't change. For changing this each and every person need to change. Including me.

Keshni I am so happy to hear you have not had to experience this. I would never wish that on anyone. Having gone through my share of struggles I have always been mindful about how I treat others around me. Be it at work or home or with friends.

After years of adventures I have finally build my own circle of trust with colleagues and friends who are supportive. I am not regreting either experiences as because of those experiences I am who I am today. It has helped me build a better and stronger version of myself.

Originally posted by: K_keechu

Family drama is the back bone of the Itv shows. We can't really do anything about it unless everyone stop watching it. We the younger people may be don't like this family drama (still we are watching ghkkpm) but the older ones enjoy this so when we decide not to watch such shows then only this family drama will end.

Everyone love a bit of drama.

If like you said Paaki, Sai and Karishma joined together then where will be the drama? 😆 and the point is it's mostly the women who bring drama into the family. 🤪

I agree with what you said above word by word. Atleast Paaki should have supported Sai in this matter after all she wants Sai to become doctor soon and leave Virat and Chavan house but then why she would stand against her. Sai wouldn't leave until she become doctor Mrs Mature Pathralekha.

She should support, not only she but all the woman should support other to rise in their position but this will not happen anytime soon. For this we have to accept a person with flaws. And some people like to see other down. We always laugh when we see someone falling down, we always laugh when we see someone is being laughed at, we always laugh when we see someone is mocked at. This won't change. For changing this each and every person need to change. Including me.

@bold: we all have heard the famous quote "Be the change you want to see in the world" by our own Mahatma Gandhi. Right!! We need to start bringing the change. As I mentioned to Keshni I have had my share of adventures/struggles that I have had to face, but who does not right? I am the person ai am today because of my experiences. Today I have wonderful colleagues and even friends who have my back and push me to become better version of myself, and they know I have their back and will always be there to celebrate their success and pull them up when they fall.

@pink: you are right about the drama part. Be it ITV, Pakistan dramas, or any other international drama them is mostly the same. I don't mind some mix of drama but I would love to see some change to the story lines. GHKPM stared out interesting, so do many of the other stories but after 100 episodes the CVs in the name of TRP start showing nonsense. But one can hope right :)

Originally posted by: Tali_99

@bold: we all have heard the famous quote "Be the change you want to see in the world" by our own Mahatma Gandhi. Right!! We need to start bringing the change. As I mentioned to Keshni I have had my share of adventures/struggles that I have had to face, but who does not right? I am the person ai am today because of my experiences. Today I have wonderful colleagues and even friends who have my back and push me to become better version of myself, and they know I have their back and will always be there to celebrate their success and pull them up when they fall.

@pink: you are right about the drama part. Be it ITV, Pakistan dramas, or any other international drama them is mostly the same. I don't mind some mix of drama but I would love to see some change to the story lines. GHKPM stared out interesting, so do many of the other stories but after 100 episodes the CVs in the name of TRP start showing nonsense. But one can hope right :)

Yes, we need to bring that changes that's why I said we need to change including me. 😳

And everyone has their share of struggles. Even I had and we are like this because what we hace faced and I'm happy that you have people around you who brings the best out of you. Not everyone is lucky with that.

That's why I always stop watching the show after a few months. They bring so much useless and pointless things into the track that I would get head ache.

And usually the shows with no drama get shut down soon. 🥺 I too hope to watch some good show with good story line with less family drama.

Very insightful & thoughtful posts. Agree with most of the views expressed. Personally fortunate to have grown up in a fairly liberal equitable environment. I have 2 daughters now & always consciously try to encourage them to stand up for themselves & other girls.

On a note of introspection - something I pointed out in a cpl of previous posts: haven’t many of us in this very forum been more critical & harsher on Pakhi than Virat when they were both just as responsible for that idiotic vaada situation & the aftermath? Right fm the start Pakhi has got more hate here than Virat. Just go back & read the posts on the terrace scene, first bedroom scene etc.

This is precisely the psychology the ITV folks tap on.

Originally posted by: Tali_99

Keshni I am so happy to hear you have not had to experience this. I would never wish that on anyone. Having gone through my share of struggles I have always been mindful about how I treat others around me. Be it at work or home or with friends.

After years of adventures I have finally build my own circle of trust with colleagues and friends who are supportive. I am not regreting either experiences as because of those experiences I am who I am today. It has helped me build a better and stronger version of myself.

Not that I haven't gone through such things, I have indeed. But, I'm also very good at throwing bitter people out of my life😆

Pakhi is the type of person that we call "educated fools" and trust me there is an abundance of such people in this world.

Originally posted by: Bana

Very insightful & thoughtful posts. Agree with most of the views expressed. Personally fortunate to have grown up in a fairly liberal equitable environment. I have 2 daughters now & always consciously try to encourage them to stand up for themselves & other girls.

On a note of introspection - something I pointed out in a cpl of previous posts: haven’t many of us in this very forum been more critical & harsher on Pakhi than Virat when they were both just as responsible for that idiotic vaada situation & the aftermath? Right fm the start Pakhi has got more hate here than Virat. Just go back & read the posts on the terrace scene, first bedroom scene etc.

This is precisely the psychology the ITV folks tap on.

I thought we tried to be critical of both to a point. Most of the posts here, critical of Virat, tend to be sarcastic, as in we still chastise him for being a vaada boy, for the maturity comments, but it's more veiled through witty posts. (In the beginning, when he made those vaadas, I remember a lot of critical posts on Virat).To some extent, I enjoy when Pakhi puts pressure on him, I just don't like when she goes overboard and involves Sai.

It's just that post the marriage, the character of Pakhi has spiralled into toxicity. Not that we wanted her to be goody goody with Sai or anything, we just wanted her to only ask Virat for accountability. That's why the dislike for Pakhi is more visible.

Coming to the first night scene, and the terrace scene, nothing can justify Pakhi (just like nothing can justify Virat talking to Pakhi on Her wedding night and Virat entering Pakhi's room a few days ago when she didn't answer- members were critical of that). There is a moral line that Pakhi crosses time and again, and which Virat may have lingered upon, but never crossed.

Virat has some serious answering to do and he will, at some point.

But, I guess I get where you are coming from. At the end of the day Virat is the hero and as audience, we'll obviously be somehow partial towards him.

Lovely topic Chaitali! This is a subject I often think about, especially since my work involves analysing a LOT of such women who are nasty to other women within families. Personally, I am blessed to have a set of guardian angels in the disguise of the women in my life, so I cannot say I have personally experienced this. I do not generalise anything because there are exceptions to every rule and I firmly believe in it. But I can put down a few things I have learnt and understood over the years of meeting and hearing such people.

Why do women bring down other women? It sounds so horrible. But it is true. In most cases of mental harassment of a woman, you will find a woman imposing patriarchy more than a man in a household. I think, while there are many, many examples of power pack of women who lift each other up, there are, unfortunately, MORE numbers of women who bring down other women.

I have seen that men tend to get over hurt and differences better than women in general. So, the chance of finding a woman seeking revenge on another woman is more likely than a man seeking revenge on a man. There are many reasons but the biggest is the mental make-up, I feel. Mental make-up that comes from conditioned upbringing. Women are taught to 'compete' for the wrong reasons in societies like ours.

"Look at her, she is fairer than you. She will find a better match". "Look at her, her husband loves her so much he bought her another diamond set". "Look at her, she's so lucky she can spend three days a week in a parlour". "Look at her, she makes her husband dance to her tunes". And of couse, "look at her, she can make better samosas, jalebis, papads and rotis too." 😵

Ab apni pyaari Bhavani Kaku ka hi example dekh lo - she is using the 'weaknesses' of women in her family to pit them against each other. And she thinks that Sai is insecure enough to get affected by Patralekha's beauty and genes.

It is unfortunate but women tend to be more vengeful and therefore turn more bitter during the course of their lives -- a lot of this bitterness has to do with the "forced sacrifices" she has had to make through her life. As you said, while noticing the 'inequality' at home --between males and females or even 'worthy' and 'unworthy' children regardless of sex, then being a subservient wife to a man she may or may not love in her entire life because he could have been thrust upon her by her family. And many such reasons where a woman is left unfulfilled. Women are more emotional than men, generally, as part of their nature and instincts and so, those who are not raised well enough to be able to understand their emotions and channel them in the right direction to be able to deal with circumstances of life are usually the ones who want to find a source to vent out their rage at. So, when there is another woman in their life who could be facing similar situations as they have done, they will revel in that woman's misery. If it is a woman who is getting things her way without the kind of suffering that they have gone through themselves, then they will try to create the hurdles. "If I didn't get it so easy/I did not get it, how can you get it so easy?"

Power factor, of course, because power is intoxicating. So when the power vests with a woman, who:

a) has not channelled her disappointments in life in the right direction b) who derives pleasure from being unjust

c) a woman whose target is some other woman who she perceives as the reason for her own disappointments in life (including conformity of perceived value systems, image, family reputation etc) and bears extreme jealousy to;

she will end up coming in the way of the progress of the woman, who could have otherwise had an uneventful life.

Characters like Bhavani, Patralekha, Karishma, Sonali, Ashwini and Sai are a reflection of real-life characters we may see all around us.