Originally posted by: blue-ice.1
Dimaag kharaab hua hai kya Saif ka...pagal insaan🤢
When will these idiot BW wales learn not to mess with religion and faith of people...kameeno sambhal jao...🤢
Saif found the key to sustain his dwindling career is continuing to put out these shocking statements and doing shocking things like not being with his child when she needed him the most.
Originally posted by: Aanandaa
Saif found the key to sustain his dwindling career is continuing to put out these shocking statements and doing shocking things like not being with his child when she needed him the most.
How is he better than the cheap politicians who use religion to spread hatred??🤢
Originally posted by: Wistfulness
पितामहस्य भवनम् गच्चन्तीम् पुञ्जिकस्थलाम् |
चञ्चूर्यमाणामद्राक्षमाकाशेऽग्निशिखामिव || ६-१३-११
"Once I saw a celestial nymph, Punjikasthala(by name) flashing like a flame, concealing herself in the sky and proceeding towards the abode of Brahma."
सा प्रसह्य मया भुक्ता कृता विवसना ततः |
स्वयम्भूभवनम् प्राप्ता लोलिता नलिनी यथा || ६-१३-१२
"She was made unclothed by me and was enjoyed forcibly. Thereafter, appearing like a crumpled lotus, she went to the abode of Brahma."
तच्च तस्य तदा मन्ये ज्ञातमासीन्महात्मनः |
अथ सम्कुपितो वेधा मामिदम् वाक्यमब्रवी || ६-१३-१३
"I think that the matter was made known to the high soled Brahama and then the enraged Brahma spoke to me the following words:
अद्यप्रभृति यामन्याम् बलान्नारीम् गमिष्यसि |
तदा ते शतधा मुर्धा फलिष्यति न संशयः || ६-१३-१४
"From today onwards, if you revel with any other woman forcibly, your head then undoubtedly will break asunder into a hundred pieces.
Book VI : Yuddha Kanda - Book Of War
you have read such books? 😲 wow..
Originally posted by: Aanandaa
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Biased towards whom? Arjuna?
Its refreshing to come across folks who don’t idolize Karna btw. Otherwise there is so much misinformation that gets peddled through these useless episodic TV dramas simply because they need to fill their time with shocking drama.
Not just Arjuna....they blame Vyasa for being biased towards The Pandavas & even Shri Krishna. Yeah Karna fans do not like Shri Krishna either 😆 A good chunk of them find Duryodhana a better character than the Pandavas 😆 Of course they have to support the evil Don too if they are idolizing his henchman.
People even argue since the whole story was being narrated to Janmejaya, Arjuna's great grandson, Vaishyampayana swung the narration favouring Arjuna & Pandavas. If you see unbiasedly, Pandavas are the villain camp 😆
@Bold : Ditto! I am so tired of this misplaced victimization & glorification of a character like Karna 🥱 But sadly most of the people I have encountered, seem to buy it. In most of the Mahabharata related forums, blogs, pages or spaces Arjuna / Pandava supporters are the minority & often get mocked as "Brihannala Aunty's fans" 😆 Yes. Hardcore Karna fans are not very knowledgeable about Biological processes it seems. They strongly believe that Arjuna, father of 4 sons, was actually an eunuch 😆
Originally posted by: pink_doughnut
Lmao this reminds me of that scene from Suryaputra Karna where he calls Draupadi a Vaishya. I think in the original he meant to insult her but in the show he was crying more than the Pandavas were lol. And they made it seem like Duryodhan forced him to call Draupadi that. Utter nonsense
Lmao 🤣 That show🤣 That was taking fanfiction to another level🤣 They even showed Shishupala was trying to rape Draupadi on her Swayamvar day & Karna saved her🤣🤣 Even Shri Krishna & Balaram were afraid of Karna when he went for his Digvijay 🤣🤣 I think they even made Shri Krishna drive Karna's chariot a few times😆😆
@ Bold : Originally, Karna was the one who put forward the idea of disrobing Draupadi. Contrary to popular belief, Duryodhana was not interested in molesting Draupadi. He just wanted to humiliate the Pandavas & Draupadi by making them his slaves. When Draupadi refused to come to the Dice hall in the single garment she was wearing at the time, Karna was the one who called Draupadi a w**** & said it doesn't matter even if she was not clothed at all and again it was him only who asked Dusshashana to take away Draupadi's garment. 🤢 He was a pervert creep on a different level. I don't know how can people idolize such a character 😵
On topic : Saifu giving this statement might stir a communal controversy. But then that might be what they are aiming for.🤔
This statement is very ill-informed and in poor taste. Either he is blatantly oblivious or he's trying to rile people for a reaction.
There is never any justification for abduction. Abducting anyone is a universal wrong irrespective of who and why they do it. Any decent human would say otherwise.
Ravana on the other hand is a complex character. There are many varied versions of Ravana ranging in shades of grey from lighter to darker. Even most versions of Ramayana agree that Ravana was a pious and learned man, he was a great ruler, and beloved by his subjects. There are several Ravana temples and he is still worshipped by many Hindu communities.
Creating a version of Ramayana that is not black and white would not be blasphemous or anything new. Mani Ratnam's Raavanan and Raavan are notable modern-day renditions that tried to explore a grey and morally sympathetic Ravana. There were a few people that objecting to sympathizing with Ravana, but it wasn't that big of a deal.
There is another controversial way to look at Ramayana. It is comparing Sita with Helen of Troy. There are a lot of parallels between the two. Both women are key catalysts in epic sagas. They both were abducted and taken away from their husbands. Both their husbands swore vengeance and amassed great armies to get back their wives. Both mythic sagas conclude in an epic war with multitudes of heroes, gods, and goddesses influencing the two sides.
There are a few key differences though. Helen of Troy is not portrayed with the same chastity as Sita. There are many versions of the Trojan war ranging from Helen willingly eloping with Paris of her own free to being violently raped by Paris. Even though Iliad paints it as an abduction there are a lot of romanticizations of Paris and Helen being in love and the Trojan war being a war for love. Sappho wrote about their romance in her poetry and most modern-day adaptations of Helen and the fall of Troy choose the romance angle.
Sita never gets the agency or desirability that Helen does. There have been attempts to give her a Helen of Troy treatment - but because Ram and Sita are so revered in Hinduism, Sita especially is a bastion of fidelity and chastity, it becomes tricky to deviate from the popular plot.
A romance between Sita and Ravan would definitely "justify abduction." But hoo boy they better not be even touching that angle. The world is already one great big giant dumpster fire. This would be dropping a 55-gallon drum of fuel into it.
Nothing cannot justify the abduction of Sita. She was alone and tricked by Ravana. You have problem with Rama or Lakshma take it with them not with a vulnerable and helpless Sita.
And Saif is really day dreaming if he thinks he can get such a footage and importance like Tanhaji with Adipurush since the hero is Prabhas and it is a South movie too.
The reason Mahabharata can be messed or tweaked but can't do with Ramayana because Krishna is shrewd and the Pandavas can be questioned by their morally ambiguous actions but Rama and Sita are the beacon of righteousness.
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