Veeranshu's tryst with his past - Page 3

Originally posted by: Shabia1

Well 'chaunka nahi' was more of like weren't you supposed to recognize your past face. At least I precieved it that way. Because Shakura knows he came with veer's past face. So that might be it.

I'm addicted to these analysis🤗

Thanks dear.😊

And maybe that is the case!

Originally posted by: AnnieSKaur

Bani andhere mein aise chamkegi ki woh us dhabbewale or gang ki aisi dhulai or bunai karegi ki, aisi tandoori roti or sabzi banaegi ki veer bol uthega "main toh tumhare ujale mein chamak gaya par tum kyu mere andheron mein chali gayi...😆

Oh, like that. You mean she will embrace the darkness within her which is capable of tricks, games, murder, and mayhem, right???

Originally posted by: libran90

Oh, like that. You mean she will embrace the darkness within her which is capable of tricks, games, murder, and mayhem, right???

Yup only for jay😆

Originally posted by: AnnieSKaur

Yup only for jay😆

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Originally posted by: libran90

Ok, I did not remember Shakura's dialogue completely. Still I think Akesh's attraction had much more depth than Shakura's attraction.

What an insightful analysis soha.👏👏👏

Sweety....I am kinda addicted your reviews and analysis U are true and at point with each and every line of urs... how can you notice minute of details of any character or any particular scenes.

How did it not come to my mind when I was watching that fight scene. Now when I read your post, I realised, oh yes this scene is repeated for the second time. The scenario which Vani had previously experienced in satyug, it is actually being encountered for the second time in kalyug. But fark sirf itna hai, yaha par hridya ki jagah hamara veer hai.

I'm kinda loving this second version of viranshu singhania

So, here's something. There are three characters in here.

1. Aakesh

2. Veeranshu

3. Shakura

Lets talk about Aakesh.

Aakesh has two things he wanted. One, Nageshwari and two, Naagmani. Aakesh's obsession with Nageshwari was based on his instant attraction. There was never much of a conversation or contact. All Nageshwari knew was that he was obsessed with her. It is a darker aspect of him. He wants what he wants and isn't bothered about right or wrong. As long as it serves his purpose and gives him what he wants, he would do it. He twice tried to force Nageshwari and cornered her. His darkness was prominent in the way he behaved. He could kill without a worry. Not much of pain would be caused to him if someone died. He didn't care how many naags were killed in that temple. He was much more bothered about Naageshwari and cornering her to get him. His obsession with Naageshwari was like the speck of light in his usually dark world. Like the moon shining in his dark sky. Right in the second episode at the entry of Aakesh, Aakesh's dad and the Kul guru say that they have to save Aakesh from the light because that would change him.

Coming to Veeranshu.

Like you said, he is an upgraded version of his former self. There is somewhere a moral conscience in him. He behaves like a free wild bird. Hunting at its own will. Yet, it is tamed in a way that it hunts only when it is necessary. Veeranshu is quite a bit like that. He only goes for kill when necessary. It showed in the way Veeranshu said about Noor on her death "She didn't deserve to die.". In his eyes, somewhere he is responsible for her death. It matter to him that someone innocent died because of him. Like he admits, "Haan, main apni burai go gale mein laga ke ghoomta hun". He's honest about his deeds. Even Balwant keeps all his dark activities hidden from Veer since he knows that Veer has the strongest moral conscience among all of the Cheels in the family. He's not scared to saying it to any of his family members on what deeds he does but when it comes to Veer, he keeps Veer in the dark. Exactly as how it was predicted with Aakesh, Veer changed from his former self to something better than Aakesh. Aakesh's attachment to Nageshwari was a symbol of Aakesh being addicted to light.

(Screw me but I'm once again going to remind the greek myth of Icarus and the sun. Icarus falls in love with the sun. He flies towards the sun without a care in the world. The sun burns him and Icarus dies in the arms of Apollo, finally reaching his love.)

Veer and Aakesh are similar in their crazy nature. Both of them are chaotic. Chaos doesn't scare them. They accept it and roam around proudly with it. I'd say that Aakesh is like Chaotic Neutral while Veer is more of chaotic good. He does some bad but somewhere he has a few moral standards that control his crazy. Veer's upgrade came up from the Aakesh died. He let himself be killed by Nageshwari. Something Veer would follow. Both of them are told to be kept away from the light. In a sense, their weakness isn't the physical light or the sun but specifically Nageshwari/Bani. So, it changes them.

Aakesh didn't care much for what Nageshwari thought about him. He just wanted her. To make her his. Veer on the other hand, he doesn't want to simply own Bani outright, he wants her to love him like he loves her. Aakesh did change, as it was predicted.

If I say metaphorical sense. Nageshwari was the light. He was killed by his light only to be reborn with some of it embraced in him. He had embraced the death that Nageshwari gave him.

Lastly with Shakura,

His obsession was based on simply Bani's beauty. There was no connection between them. His obsession was on the border of wanting to own her as an object. It is like he doesn't care much for her at all. Like obsessively lusting after her. He wouldn't care much if she died. Aakesh/Veer actually care about her well-being. Right at his introduction, he is said to be the worst of all cheels. He's more animalistic, even among animals.

When Aakesh was killed, he didn't say anything. He was simply done with letting his obsessive love killing him. Veer says the same. He wouldn't mind being killed by Bani. He's much happier in drowning himself in this obsession. Whether it kills him or saves him. Shakura, his obsession didn't line up in the 'love' bracket. It is simply lust. All he wants is to own her and hence he says that he will return.

As for Shakura looking like Aakesh. I think it has something to do with Gandhak patthar. Maybe it is responsible for why Shakura took the form of Aakesh and Veer not having his memories. It is already established that Gandhak patthar does the opposite of what is told. Only Veer can control it fully. Bani touched it exactly the moment the kaal ganak finished the time. Veer would have remembered everything but the stone listened to Bani and did the opposite. Veer's picture changed to that of Aakesh but actual Veer didn't remember anything. Veer was supposed to become Aakesh but the stone might have changed it. I mean the photograph changing is symbolic. Veer was supposed to remembering being Aakesh but that did not happen.

Originally posted by: AliChase

So, here's something. There are three characters in here.

1. Aakesh

2. Veeranshu

3. Shakura

Lets talk about Aakesh.

Aakesh has two things he wanted. One, Nageshwari and two, Naagmani. Aakesh's obsession with Nageshwari was based on his instant attraction. There was never much of a conversation or contact. All Nageshwari knew was that he was obsessed with her. It is a darker aspect of him. He wants what he wants and isn't bothered about right or wrong. As long as it serves his purpose and gives him what he wants, he would do it. He twice tried to force Nageshwari and cornered her. His darkness was prominent in the way he behaved. He could kill without a worry. Not much of pain would be caused to him if someone died. He didn't care how many naags were killed in that temple. He was much more bothered about Naageshwari and cornering her to get him. His obsession with Naageshwari was like the speck of light in his usually dark world. Like the moon shining in his dark sky. Right in the second episode at the entry of Aakesh, Aakesh's dad and the Kul guru say that they have to save Aakesh from the light because that would change him.

Coming to Veeranshu.

Like you said, he is an upgraded version of his former self. There is somewhere a moral conscience in him. He behaves like a free wild bird. Hunting at its own will. Yet, it is tamed in a way that it hunts only when it is necessary. Veeranshu is quite a bit like that. He only goes for kill when necessary. It showed in the way Veeranshu said about Noor on her death "She didn't deserve to die.". In his eyes, somewhere he is responsible for her death. It matter to him that someone innocent died because of him. Like he admits, "Haan, main apni burai go gale mein laga ke ghoomta hun". He's honest about his deeds. Even Balwant keeps all his dark activities hidden from Veer since he knows that Veer has the strongest moral conscience among all of the Cheels in the family. He's not scared to saying it to any of his family members on what deeds he does but when it comes to Veer, he keeps Veer in the dark. Exactly as how it was predicted with Aakesh, Veer changed from his former self to something better than Aakesh. Aakesh's attachment to Nageshwari was a symbol of Aakesh being addicted to light.

(Screw me but I'm once again going to remind the greek myth of Icarus and the sun. Icarus falls in love with the sun. He flies towards the sun without a care in the world. The sun burns him and Icarus dies in the arms of Apollo, finally reaching his love.)

Veer and Aakesh are similar in their crazy nature. Both of them are chaotic. Chaos doesn't scare them. They accept it and roam around proudly with it. I'd say that Aakesh is like Chaotic Neutral while Veer is more of chaotic good. He does some bad but somewhere he has a few moral standards that control his crazy. Veer's upgrade came up from the Aakesh died. He let himself be killed by Nageshwari. Something Veer would follow. Both of them are told to be kept away from the light. In a sense, their weakness isn't the physical light or the sun but specifically Nageshwari/Bani. So, it changes them.

Aakesh didn't care much for what Nageshwari thought about him. He just wanted her. To make her his. Veer on the other hand, he doesn't want to simply own Bani outright, he wants her to love him like he loves her. Aakesh did change, as it was predicted.

If I say metaphorical sense. Nageshwari was the light. He was killed by his light only to be reborn with some of it embraced in him. He had embraced the death that Nageshwari gave him.

Lastly with Shakura,

His obsession was based on simply Bani's beauty. There was no connection between them. His obsession was on the border of wanting to own her as an object. It is like he doesn't care much for her at all. Like obsessively lusting after her. He wouldn't care much if she died. Aakesh/Veer actually care about her well-being. Right at his introduction, he is said to be the worst of all cheels. He's more animalistic, even among animals.

When Aakesh was killed, he didn't say anything. He was simply done with letting his obsessive love killing him. Veer says the same. He wouldn't mind being killed by Bani. He's much happier in drowning himself in this obsession. Whether it kills him or saves him. Shakura, his obsession didn't line up in the 'love' bracket. It is simply lust. All he wants is to own her and hence he says that he will return.

As for Shakura looking like Aakesh. I think it has something to do with Gandhak patthar. Maybe it is responsible for why Shakura took the form of Aakesh and Veer not having his memories. It is already established that Gandhak patthar does the opposite of what is told. Only Veer can control it fully. Bani touched it exactly the moment the kaal ganak finished the time. Veer would have remembered everything but the stone listened to Bani and did the opposite. Veer's picture changed to that of Aakesh but actual Veer didn't remember anything. Veer was supposed to become Aakesh but the stone might have changed it. I mean the photograph changing is symbolic. Veer was supposed to remembering being Aakesh but that did not happen.

Okay, so I agree with the entire analysis, word for word. Nothing much to say about it. It is thorough.👏 Only @bold the last part I would beg to differ. Gandhak patthar only does the opposite when it comes in contact with any negative source of energy as Guruma had mentioned. Bani took it to Chandobi pahadi which is a source of negative energy, so it acted opposite to what it was told. And hence Guruma had told Bani to take it to Prayag ki pahadi to maintain the sanctity and purity of that stone, but Bani as usual refused because she had to trick Shakura at that time.

Secondly, Veeranshu's memories aren't controlled by the Gandhak at all. Infact, the Kaalganak has been the only device to tell the actual time of him remembering his past. And that has already been shown when Veeranshu was in his Cheel form. He was recalling his memories on a rewind loop. So whatever happened with Shakura and his face, could either be a gimmick to show DD's entry, or since Veeranshu is the master of the stone and he was trapped, the stone activated on its own to go and protect him. And only Adi Naagin, another person equipped with the power to control it, could lead him to it, indirectly. But I am sure he remembers everything, I only am looking forward to know his reasons for hiding that truth from his family and everyone.

Originally posted by: AliChase

So, here's something. There are three characters in here.

1. Aakesh

2. Veeranshu

3. Shakura

Lets talk about Aakesh.

Aakesh has two things he wanted. One, Nageshwari and two, Naagmani. Aakesh's obsession with Nageshwari was based on his instant attraction. There was never much of a conversation or contact. All Nageshwari knew was that he was obsessed with her. It is a darker aspect of him. He wants what he wants and isn't bothered about right or wrong. As long as it serves his purpose and gives him what he wants, he would do it. He twice tried to force Nageshwari and cornered her. His darkness was prominent in the way he behaved. He could kill without a worry. Not much of pain would be caused to him if someone died. He didn't care how many naags were killed in that temple. He was much more bothered about Naageshwari and cornering her to get him. His obsession with Naageshwari was like the speck of light in his usually dark world. Like the moon shining in his dark sky. Right in the second episode at the entry of Aakesh, Aakesh's dad and the Kul guru say that they have to save Aakesh from the light because that would change him.

Coming to Veeranshu.

Like you said, he is an upgraded version of his former self. There is somewhere a moral conscience in him. He behaves like a free wild bird. Hunting at its own will. Yet, it is tamed in a way that it hunts only when it is necessary. Veeranshu is quite a bit like that. He only goes for kill when necessary. It showed in the way Veeranshu said about Noor on her death "She didn't deserve to die.". In his eyes, somewhere he is responsible for her death. It matter to him that someone innocent died because of him. Like he admits, "Haan, main apni burai go gale mein laga ke ghoomta hun". He's honest about his deeds. Even Balwant keeps all his dark activities hidden from Veer since he knows that Veer has the strongest moral conscience among all of the Cheels in the family. He's not scared to saying it to any of his family members on what deeds he does but when it comes to Veer, he keeps Veer in the dark. Exactly as how it was predicted with Aakesh, Veer changed from his former self to something better than Aakesh. Aakesh's attachment to Nageshwari was a symbol of Aakesh being addicted to light.

(Screw me but I'm once again going to remind the greek myth of Icarus and the sun. Icarus falls in love with the sun. He flies towards the sun without a care in the world. The sun burns him and Icarus dies in the arms of Apollo, finally reaching his love.)

Veer and Aakesh are similar in their crazy nature. Both of them are chaotic. Chaos doesn't scare them. They accept it and roam around proudly with it. I'd say that Aakesh is like Chaotic Neutral while Veer is more of chaotic good. He does some bad but somewhere he has a few moral standards that control his crazy. Veer's upgrade came up from the Aakesh died. He let himself be killed by Nageshwari. Something Veer would follow. Both of them are told to be kept away from the light. In a sense, their weakness isn't the physical light or the sun but specifically Nageshwari/Bani. So, it changes them.

Aakesh didn't care much for what Nageshwari thought about him. He just wanted her. To make her his. Veer on the other hand, he doesn't want to simply own Bani outright, he wants her to love him like he loves her. Aakesh did change, as it was predicted.

If I say metaphorical sense. Nageshwari was the light. He was killed by his light only to be reborn with some of it embraced in him. He had embraced the death that Nageshwari gave him.

Lastly with Shakura,

His obsession was based on simply Bani's beauty. There was no connection between them. His obsession was on the border of wanting to own her as an object. It is like he doesn't care much for her at all. Like obsessively lusting after her. He wouldn't care much if she died. Aakesh/Veer actually care about her well-being. Right at his introduction, he is said to be the worst of all cheels. He's more animalistic, even among animals.

When Aakesh was killed, he didn't say anything. He was simply done with letting his obsessive love killing him. Veer says the same. He wouldn't mind being killed by Bani. He's much happier in drowning himself in this obsession. Whether it kills him or saves him. Shakura, his obsession didn't line up in the 'love' bracket. It is simply lust. All he wants is to own her and hence he says that he will return.

As for Shakura looking like Aakesh. I think it has something to do with Gandhak patthar. Maybe it is responsible for why Shakura took the form of Aakesh and Veer not having his memories. It is already established that Gandhak patthar does the opposite of what is told. Only Veer can control it fully. Bani touched it exactly the moment the kaal ganak finished the time. Veer would have remembered everything but the stone listened to Bani and did the opposite. Veer's picture changed to that of Aakesh but actual Veer didn't remember anything. Veer was supposed to become Aakesh but the stone might have changed it. I mean the photograph changing is symbolic. Veer was supposed to remembering being Aakesh but that did not happen.

Wow! Wonderful analysis! 👏 I liked the way you pointed out the differences between Aakesh and Shakura. 😊 I also think photograph changing had something to do with Gandhak stone. I mean it happened exactly when Bani took that stone in her hands.

Nice analysis dear

I agreed this veer is definitely more calmed. I always considered veer different from Aakesh. Veer is emotional, he is Sanki but he is smart.

Now After getting know about his past, his dialogues showed his calmness and depth. Like his Vishwass dialogue and that Shadi Shuda dialogue. All indicate that he understands everything.

He is mature as well.

There was a dialogue By mayuri that inn dono ka zaroor ko connection hai. I am confused what she was talking about . kon dono?Veer aur Shakura?