Kangna - Serious Accusations - Page 6

Originally posted by: Maroonporsche

I wouldn’t be surprised if Kangana was carrying on her affairs with Politicians 😆 she loves married men.

Also again I must stress That an attack on Kangana and her lack of character isn’t the same as saying Alia or someone else’s fans are brainless. One is discussing the actor and one the fans.

Great words coming from a country, whose PM is married for the third time (a married woman when he met her) and was a known playboy before that.

I would not have called out Imran, if you had not spoken about Modi.

I have not gone through the other thread (nor this one, only the first page). Just read Tina’s comment and your reply.

Originally posted by: coldbrew

Okay I'll answer at the risk of digging a hole for myself here. I wasn't aware of this Mordabad incident and her tweet while it was happening in real-time. I'm looking at them now and it looks like many people felt strongly about the attack then and wanted the perpetrators punished. Rangoli's tweet does look hateful/nasty cuz of her choice of words--no denying that.

But on the less popular side, KR came out to clarify that words didn't come out right and they wanted the perpetrators punished--not the entire population. Are we gonna discount that completely? KR's clarification doesn't excuse Rangoli's rash choice of words and she got the flak for it but at the same time, it should take more than a nasty tweet to label someone a Nazi/genocide supporter and equate their intentions to the same level of violence. That's what I think.

You certainly don't have to treat alternative views as equally valid or "right", but rarely is it the case that only one viewpoint has a complete monopoly on reason and evidence. So I'm not a fan of seeing Nazi and genocide being used every other sentence on the forum in every thread on KR by people who don't even know what they're talking about.

@bold If she doesnt mind to be compared to nazis why do you?

@red You want to tell me that i dont know what i am talking about 🤣😂

Someone who was born and raised in Austria (!!!) and who wrote a thesis on National Socialism. I think it is actually you who doesnt know anything about the nazis/national socialism.

Originally posted by: bollywoodbuff20

are you comparing an Indian origin canadian citizen to actors from Pakistan and saying they are both the same? WOW!

see why i said your logic doesnt make sense .ur anti-BJP bias is clearly on show but try not to make generic statements unless u can provide evidence. good luck on reporting me

You should read the legal definition of citizenship in India.

A person who is having passport from another country is not a citizen of India. The Constitution of India does not allows dual citizenship ( holding citizenship of both countries) . So the person becomes a foreign national unless he or she legally gives up the citizenship and passport of another country. It is called the process of naturalization. You can refer Articles 5 to 11 (Part II) of the Indian Constitution. It has been amended for some changes.

So as per the Constitution of India Akshay Kumar is not an Indian citizen unless he gives up on his Canadian citizenship. Foreigners from any country have basic rights in our country but do not have some specific rights like voting and taking part in election as a candidate in state or center legislature.

I am BJP supporter but I will hate Kangana always. I was badly harassed by obsessed boy in my teens. Kangana reminds me of him.

Originally posted by: bollywoodbuff20

I am aware of indian citizenship act - you should re-read my post. i said he is "indian origin" canadian citizen. presumably he has OCI card that affords him all the priviliges of indian citizen except voting

my point was about comparing indian origin foreigners to paki foreigners ..they are not the same and they never will be. indian origin foreigners are sympathetic to indian issues, most have families in india. likewise paki actors are all sympathetic to pak issues and have a hard on for kashmir for some reason

hate kangana all u like but surely u need to defend her right to expression

Right to expression is called freedom of speech and expression.

Clause (2) of Article 19 of the Indian constitution imposes certain restrictions on free speech under following heads:

I. security of the State,

II. friendly relations with foreign States

III. public order,

IV. decency and morality,

V. contempt of court,

VI. defamation,

VII. incitement to an offence, and

VIII. sovereignty and integrity of India.

Any speech which incites riots and harm to any community could be restricted. Even inciting war against any country by a citizen may place under arrest.

Kangana has already done some of them. These are serious offenses under IPC.

Sometimes I feel Kangana has never consulted a lawyer. So her freedom comes with restrictions.

Originally posted by: bollywoodbuff20

aren't you conflating pakistan and Muslim? typical

Kangana cannot harm friendly relations with foreign States by inciting war.

Originally posted by: bollywoodbuff20

i like how you have changed the words "reasonable restrictions" to "certain restrictions" ..sneaky ..very sneaky!

eg. given the Uri terrorist attack, it would be considered "reasonable" by any indian court of law, if things are said against pak by indian citizens in india

I am not sneaky I was using legal terms from the Indian constitution.

If anyone tries to harm the country by using his or her rights then they should face the legal consequences too. Indian constitution and Indian Penal Court takes any one harming national integrity of India and diplomatic relations seriously. This is one the worst postilion anyone can get in. People should really mind their words.

No courts in India has a right to declare war in this country. War can be only declared by the President of India who is the supreme commander of all military forces of India. The constitutional head of the Executive of the Union is the President. The president can declare war or conclude peace, on the advice of the Union Council of Ministers headed by the prime minister. All important treaties and contracts are made in the president's name.

Read the constitution of India for some time. It is the most longest constitution in the world.

Originally posted by: bollywoodbuff20

It never amazes me how quickly the "victim" card is whipped out EVERY SINGLE TIME.in this lockdown, i have figured that freedom of expression has become a one-way road for leftists/liberals. if ur opinion is not liked then u will be ganged upon and shut down / banned very quickly. and the media/platform/moderators are equally complicit in this

coming back to the topic, it amazes me how the whole discussion was turned on its head towhat rangoli said, not what tablighis actually DID!

no condemnation for their proven acts. it wasnt a figment of someone's imagination what they DID yet everyone focusses on what rangoli has said and there is a big hoohaa about that instead of asking for punishment for the tablighis. yet when u bring up tablighis u will be labelled as "spreading hate" WTF. who is rangoli anyway, why cant u ignore her tweet and instead focus on throwing the book at tablighis who shamed the entire muslim community

also the context in which the tweet was made should not be overlooked. her choice of words is wrong but as u rightly point out the country felt very strongly on the incident. even the daily wage laborers were supporting the lockdown at that point in time and it seemed to be working well [source: WHO] yet tablighis come along and undo all the good work. did the Muslim community,moderate or otherwise,condemn them?

If you read the writing off the wall, no one has indeed talked about the context in which the tweet was made or condemned the actual act of violence that elicited such a strong reaction. Not saying that the tweet was right, it has its own place on the chopping block, but if people who are so fixated on the nature of the tweet don't have anything to say about the actual act of violence that was committed in that context, it does make me question their objectivity.

Originally posted by: colossial2015

Kangana cannot harm friendly relations with foreign States by inciting war.

She is rat 😆

Originally posted by: bollywoodbuff20

wow ..just wow. u say u were born and raised in Austria and wrote a thesis on national socialism? yet u trivialise the sufferings of jews? kangana may not mind st00pid things said to her but calling her a nazi? what has she ever done except say a few unsavory things ..u call her a nazi for that??

people on this board are correct .u really dont know anything about nazis

Where did I downplay the suffering of the Jews? she said stand them in line and shoot them and didnt mind to called a nazi.

You don't have to do it to be called a Nazi, it is enough to have such thoughts. 🤡 I wish some people would shut up on subjects they don't know anything about🤢🤢

Originally posted by: bollywoodbuff20

first of all it was rangoli who said it but anyway.

your comparison to nazis is invalid. for starters, nazis killed innocent jews. the tablighis weren't "innocent" but dont let facts get in the way of ur tirade

re nazism, i am not going to give you any proofs of my nazi knowledge or any certification like u did. you being ok with calling someone nazi, given the context, proves to me that u r ok to throw the word around loosely without understanding the gravity of it and also that you learnt nothing despite your so-called "thesis" on the subject

Nazi does stand not only for the member of the National Socialist. But also for a person with extreme racist views. that kangana is a pathetic racist cant be denied no matter how much her supporters deny it🤢

I like I said before I wish people who don't know much about it would keep quiet.