Deewangi (GEO) - Danish Taimoor, Hiba Bukhari, Zoya Nasir - Page 79

Originally posted by: arshi_asya

I won't blame Nageen for being prejudiced. She was doing a job where getting harassed & unwanted advances was common & the only way to protect herself was to keep everyone at bay no matter who advanced towards her. Then she had a friend who was being stalked & harassed continuously to the extent that she was murdered by acid attack. That solidified her stand of not entertaining anyone at all because you can't know of anyone's intentions.

While Sultan did try to talk to her but he acted entitled without understanding the kind of fear Nageen had with guys & not just rich people in particular. Then, Sultan went way out of line & never gave her space. Booking the entire bus would be uncomfortable for anyone in general, leave alone Nageen. Then stalking her outside her hostel just to put emotional pressure on her to talk to him was in no way a healthy way to kickstart a normal relationship. And lastly forcefully, putting a ring on her finger that too in public, just when she said NO was actually harassment. Sultan may have not realized it but he was indirectly harassing her back then & he is still harassing her mentally & emotionally.

Sultan's deewangi is toxic & destructive & needn't be romanticized at all. Sultan has never given Nageen space that she deserved to make judgments. He has violently intruded in her life every time he wanted without understanding that it is actually disturbing her. For a change I liked it today when he said that he wouldn't disturb her anymore because he knows that the deed is done & all he has to do now is wait for things to take their own turn.

Haroon's way was much better. He actually gave time for trust to build up between them, something Sultan never did in the first place. It's a different story that Haroon turned out to be guy who could be easily blinded by certain people. Sultan has always been egoistic to the core & that brings the worst out of him. He has a mad side that scares people close to him. That's the reason why his mother-in-law took away his daughter with her because it's difficult to trust him with stable relationships. Plus he has done enough damage in the past to redeem himself or be trusted again by anyone. His own Bijaan couldn't trust him after how he treated Nareeman when she was heavily pregnant. And unfortunately, he hasn't changed much at all.

I did not see the show from when it originally aired. In fact I binge watched all the episodes. Maybe that's why I have a different perspective coz I saw it in flow.

Being careful and guarded is one thing, but being rude without knowing a person is a different game altogether. There are ways of saying no and the way Nageen handled the situation was very wrong. While there are many things Sultan did that I do not justify, I feel she could've handled the situation well. You have to be diplomatic and not let your emotions be so in-your-face.

Look at the guy who was harassing her friend and then look at Sultan. It was clear the former was a sadak chhaap gunda kind of guy who would've done that to any girl, but Sultan was a well educated guy, coming from a decent family (khandaani) but was ruthless as a businessman. First episode mein hi he rejected the advances of a lady who hit on him, saying I have boundaries which I never cross, we are here for business don't make it something more.

Sultan was entitled, but he was surrounded by people who were opportunists and gave him fake love and encouragement only because he was useful to them. HIs uncle wanted him to run in elections, his aunt and Narmeen wanted him to get married to Narmeen. Had he not been a good businessman then the family would've kicked him out. Only his dadi was genuine. I know he should've tried different ways but the man never knew normal tbh. Opportunist people and then no parents to support him.

He felt connected to a woman for the first time and wanted it to become something but then the actions he took were crazy. He never realised that Nageen was never the one for him because of his ache to have normalcy, he jumped on the first boat he saw but it wasn't going to the destination where he wanted to be; rather if he would've had a non-toxic environment since childhood he wouldn't have done what he did. So he became toxic over a period of time.

Why doesn't anyone blame Narmeen for doing what she did? Why doesn't anyone blame his chacha and chachi for all the gaslighting they used to do? His dadi doesn't trust him; why did she hide the fact that the scandal was done by her granddaughter? Wouldn't Sultan have felt betrayed by the one woman who meant the world to him?

Haroon was a nice guy, but I gotta blame Nageen here. He supported her during her worst times. Her gut would've told her that this guy is great, she should've been completely honest with him since the beginning about Sultan. So I can't blame him for not trusting her anymore because he told her about Ramsha.

The only thing the makers could have done was redeem Sultan, show him going to therapy and changing himself, apologising to Nageen once and for all, maybe falling in love with someone else. But they've ruined it.

There's one thing I've seen in life: a child is innocent but if surrounded by the wrong kind of people and a toxic unstable environment, they turn out to become the worst. The only reason I feel bad for Sultan is coz I can see where his behaviour has come from and that saddens me. There was constant gaslighting, toxicity and pressurising. From a psychological perspective its a very sad story.

Originally posted by: Ashley.Tisdale

I did not see the show from when it originally aired. In fact I binge watched all the episodes. Maybe that's why I have a different perspective coz I saw it in flow.

Being careful and guarded is one thing, but being rude without knowing a person is a different game altogether. There are ways of saying no and the way Nageen handled the situation was very wrong. While there are many things Sultan did that I do not justify, I feel she could've handled the situation well. You have to be diplomatic and not let your emotions be so in-your-face.

Look at the guy who was harassing her friend and then look at Sultan. It was clear the former was a sadak chhaap gunda kind of guy who would've done that to any girl, but Sultan was a well educated guy, coming from a decent family (khandaani) but was ruthless as a businessman. First episode mein hi he rejected the advances of a lady who hit on him, saying I have boundaries which I never cross, we are here for business don't make it something more.

Sultan was entitled, but he was surrounded by people who were opportunists and gave him fake love and encouragement only because he was useful to them. HIs uncle wanted him to run in elections, his aunt and Narmeen wanted him to get married to Narmeen. Had he not been a good businessman then the family would've kicked him out. Only his dadi was genuine. I know he should've tried different ways but the man never knew normal tbh. Opportunist people and then no parents to support him.

He felt connected to a woman for the first time and wanted it to become something but then the actions he took were crazy. He never realised that Nageen was never the one for him because of his ache to have normalcy, he jumped on the first boat he saw but it wasn't going to the destination where he wanted to be; rather if he would've had a non-toxic environment since childhood he wouldn't have done what he did. So he became toxic over a period of time.

Why doesn't anyone blame Narmeen for doing what she did? Why doesn't anyone blame his chacha and chachi for all the gaslighting they used to do? His dadi doesn't trust him; why did she hide the fact that the scandal was done by her granddaughter? Wouldn't Sultan have felt betrayed by the one woman who meant the world to him?

Haroon was a nice guy, but I gotta blame Nageen here. He supported her during her worst times. Her gut would've told her that this guy is great, she should've been completely honest with him since the beginning about Sultan. So I can't blame him for not trusting her anymore because he told her about Ramsha.

The only thing the makers could have done was redeem Sultan, show him going to therapy and changing himself, apologising to Nageen once and for all, maybe falling in love with someone else. But they've ruined it.

There's one thing I've seen in life: a child is innocent but if surrounded by the wrong kind of people and a toxic unstable environment, they turn out to become the worst. The only reason I feel bad for Sultan is coz I can see where his behaviour has come from and that saddens me. There was constant gaslighting, toxicity and pressurising. From a psychological perspective its a very sad story.

But none of Sultan's reason justify the nasty games he has played so far, especially with Nageen. His Bijaan tried hard to make him understand only for his ego to win. His friend is trying but all of it is falling on deaf ears.

What Nareeman did was wrong and she paid a heavy price for it. Sultan did wrong & he paid a price for it to some extent but Nageen didn't didn't play with anyone's life with malicious intention and yet she is paying price for that impulsive slap till now. Had it been someone else instead of Sultan, she would have done the same (recall the bus passenger who was trying to harass her or the guy who tried to rape her in her home). Nageen's behavior didn't stem from her throwing unnecessary attitude but from defense machanism where girls are still taught to not give any sign to the guy that could be misconstrued positively. And that straightforwardness is often considered rudeness. Even if Nageen had been polite, Sultan would have not left. Infact he would have taken her politeness as a sign to proceed further. Notable difference is that Nageen behaved the exact same with Haroon as well in the beginning but eventually did warm up to him gradually, while Sultan had nothing to warrant her trust till the ring moment. You don't just go and propose someone in the middle of the road to a girl who is clearly showing no interest, right after she has faced a traumatic incident of her friend's death in such horrible way.

Even if the video hadn't gone viral, Sultan would have been hell bent on destroying Nageen for that slap. The slap was impulsive reaction of what Sultan did in that moment, forcefully make her wear the ring despite the clear NO. Sultan being a rich, smart looking guy who has countless women at this altar doesn't justify the way Sultan tried to force his way into Nageen's life in his maddening rage and ego, neither it clears him of being a potential threat to a woman.

And what he did today has to be the most shadiest and horrible thing anyone could have done. He actually bribed the doctor to abort her child. For a man who claims to still love her, he sure is hell bent on destroying whatever is left of her.

Nageen sure is to be blamed for hiding such huge past of her life from Haroon. She should have asserted on telling her past even if Haroon wasn't interested in knowing. And considering the kind of guy Haroon is, he still would have gone ahead with marrying her after taking his time to come to terms with the truth. The way it came out would have shaken anyone.

Haroon may die next week considering how Sultan actually made Doctor abort her child, something we hoped wouldn't happen. And it's quite clear that Nageen wouldn't be able to live with her in-laws after Haroon's death but I don't think Nageen will ever forgive Sultan after all that he has done so far last being this attack on Haroon.

Now I understood. It totally looks like Anjaam. But it is not so hard one (no jail, no bloody killings). But there are a lot of parallels. Even Madhuri’s heroine worked as stewardess and Nageen was also working as a person who serves people. I think it will be the same scenario. She is going to show Sultan her fake love and then she will kill him. I wanted a happy end with Sultan... But they spoiled everything.

Originally posted by: arshi_asya

But none of Sultan's reason justify the nasty games he has played so far, especially with Nageen. His Bijaan tried hard to make him understand only for his ego to win. His friend is trying but all of it is falling on deaf ears.

What Nareeman did was wrong and she paid a heavy price for it. Sultan did wrong & he paid a price for it to some extent but Nageen didn't didn't play with anyone's life with malicious intention and yet she is paying price for that impulsive slap till now. Had it been someone else instead of Sultan, she would have done the same (recall the bus passenger who was trying to harass her or the guy who tried to rape her in her home). Nageen's behavior didn't stem from her throwing unnecessary attitude but from defense machanism where girls are still taught to not give any sign to the guy that could be misconstrued positively. And that straightforwardness is often considered rudeness. Even if Nageen had been polite, Sultan would have not left. Infact he would have taken her politeness as a sign to proceed further. Notable difference is that Nageen behaved the exact same with Haroon as well in the beginning but eventually did warm up to him gradually, while Sultan had nothing to warrant her trust till the ring moment. You don't just go and propose someone in the middle of the road to a girl who is clearly showing no interest, right after she has faced a traumatic incident of her friend's death in such horrible way.

Even if the video hadn't gone viral, Sultan would have been hell bent on destroying Nageen for that slap. The slap was impulsive reaction of what Sultan did in that moment, forcefully make her wear the ring despite the clear NO. Sultan being a rich, smart looking guy who has countless women at this altar doesn't justify the way Sultan tried to force his way into Nageen's life in his maddening rage and ego, neither it clears him of being a potential threat to a woman.

And what he did today has to be the most shadiest and horrible thing anyone could have done. He actually bribed the doctor to abort her child. For a man who claims to still love her, he sure is hell bent on destroying whatever is left of her.

Nageen sure is to be blamed for hiding such huge past of her life from Haroon. She should have asserted on telling her past even if Haroon wasn't interested in knowing. And considering the kind of guy Haroon is, he still would have gone ahead with marrying her after taking his time to come to terms with the truth. The way it came out would have shaken anyone.

Haroon may die next week considering how Sultan actually made Doctor abort her child, something we hoped wouldn't happen. And it's quite clear that Nageen wouldn't be able to live with her in-laws after Haroon's death but I don't think Nageen will ever forgive Sultan after all that he has done so far last being this attack on Haroon.

Sultan needed a psychologist and councellor. He seems to be bipolar most of the time with severe anger issues and I gotta blame his childhood for that. I come from a city where I have seen a lot of Sultans but they chose the medical way to get better. No, they won't listen to anyone because they have an emotional deprivation in their body but only a doctor can help them. And yes, they did recover.

Sultan's honestly as good as a zombie now. No family, no wife, daughter away from him, no love. Money can't buy happiness and the richest people are often hollow within. He's gonna suffer for the rest of his life.

I have seen various Nageens as well, but they chose to be firm without being rude. That usually works, the guy then backs off. But she had this weird tone right since the beginning causing me to scream at my screen 'EITHER LISTEN TO HIM OR STOP BEING RUDE YOU FOOL!'

Nageen paid for the slap in the beginning, now she's only paying for not being truthful with her husband. Its always advisable to not have baggage while starting something new.

Sultan was a bipolar guy with anger issues, she pushed him over the wrong side which I cannot blame her for doing coz she knew nothing about him. But on the other hand, I've seen the best solutions come from being calm in the beginning, try understand a person's psyche and then take action. Maybe I say this because I studied hotel management and this is what we do on our job. We can't really be rude to guests and its important to find out their behavioural traits, no matter how obnoxious they are.

I saw the live streaming of the episode and it was hanging...did he actually get the child aborted? Thats the last thing I wanted him to do! So freakin inhumane.

And he was such a fab character which great potential...how could the writers get so damn evil? Perfect grey shades, suave, charismatic...urrghh.

I think the end is clear. Nageen will die so that Sultan can't get his hands on her and he's gonna live all alone wallowing in his deewangi. The writers really messed up big time.

They've clearly lifted the story from Anjaam. Rich businessman falls in love with air/bus hostess, the heroine's brother in law is a prick while the sister and children suffer...she isn't interested in the rich guy, gets married elsewhere, their paths cross after a few years, her husband is killed by the rich guy, she loses her baby, her friend/sister is killed. Only difference is that Sultan isn't confined to a wheelchair and Nageen isn't as fierce as Shivani.

Sultan did the most unethical deed by aborting nageen's child. He is a bad villain. He is just selfish. I know many people liked his character but I have no likeness for such an evil character. I don't want haroon to die and if he died than I want nageen to die as well. Taaky pagal sultan khali haath hi reh jaye.

RIP Sultan....he crossed all limits today and looks like will do so even in next episode but seriously became fan of Danish, the way he expressed his remorse to Nageen after killing her child is so on point, it's almost believable.

Originally posted by: Ashley.Tisdale

Sultan needed a psychologist and councellor. He seems to be bipolar most of the time with severe anger issues and I gotta blame his childhood for that. I come from a city where I have seen a lot of Sultans but they chose the medical way to get better. No, they won't listen to anyone because they have an emotional deprivation in their body but only a doctor can help them. And yes, they did recover.

Sultan's honestly as good as a zombie now. No family, no wife, daughter away from him, no love. Money can't buy happiness and the richest people are often hollow within. He's gonna suffer for the rest of his life.

I have seen various Nageens as well, but they chose to be firm without being rude. That usually works, the guy then backs off. But she had this weird tone right since the beginning causing me to scream at my screen 'EITHER LISTEN TO HIM OR STOP BEING RUDE YOU FOOL!'

Nageen paid for the slap in the beginning, now she's only paying for not being truthful with her husband. Its always advisable to not have baggage while starting something new.

Sultan was a bipolar guy with anger issues, she pushed him over the wrong side which I cannot blame her for doing coz she knew nothing about him. But on the other hand, I've seen the best solutions come from being calm in the beginning, try understand a person's psyche and then take action. Maybe I say this because I studied hotel management and this is what we do on our job. We can't really be rude to guests and its important to find out their behavioural traits, no matter how obnoxious they are.

I saw the live streaming of the episode and it was hanging...did he actually get the child aborted? Thats the last thing I wanted him to do! So freakin inhumane.

And he was such a fab character which great potential...how could the writers get so damn evil? Perfect grey shades, suave, charismatic...urrghh.

I think the end is clear. Nageen will die so that Sultan can't get his hands on her and he's gonna live all alone wallowing in his deewangi. The writers really messed up big time.

They've clearly lifted the story from Anjaam. Rich businessman falls in love with air/bus hostess, the heroine's brother in law is a prick while the sister and children suffer...she isn't interested in the rich guy, gets married elsewhere, their paths cross after a few years, her husband is killed by the rich guy, she loses her baby, her friend/sister is killed. Only difference is that Sultan isn't confined to a wheelchair and Nageen isn't as fierce as Shivani.

Nageen has lost her child because in the show it's been a week since she came back from hospital and is healing. The doctor actually succumbed to Sultan's threat. And this is evil of another level. They could have shown Nageen miscarry on her own considering the immense mental stress she was in ever since she was pregnant and that could have been a different ball game altogether. But they showed Sultan doing it which makes him irredeemable from this point.

I had thought that Doctor would just lie to Haroon about miscarriage but no, the child has been aborted. That is absolutely horrible.

Even I see it going the Anjaam way. Nageen was fierce once but now she is emotionally unstable who is in desperate for stability in her life. If she loses Haroon as well, that will be the push for her to actually take revenge from Sultan.

Originally posted by: arshi_asya

Even I see it going the Anjaam way. Nageen was fierce once but now she is emotionally unstable who is in desperate for stability in her life. If she loses Haroon as well, that will be the push for her to actually take revenge from Sultan.

Yes. This is the only way this drama ends on high note. I know my heart will be broken.🥺 I may cry for my fav couple whom I lived with , dreamt of since many months. 😭 But after all what he did.. Sultan doesn't deserve Nageen. And Nageen can't live without Haroon. She became so weak to stand on her feet again.😒

Originally posted by: arshi_asya

Nageen has lost her child because in the show it's been a week since she came back from hospital and is healing. The doctor actually succumbed to Sultan's threat. And this is evil of another level. They could have shown Nageen miscarry on her own considering the immense mental stress she was in ever since she was pregnant and that could have been a different ball game altogether. But they showed Sultan doing it which makes him irredeemable from this point.

I had thought that Doctor would just lie to Haroon about miscarriage but no, the child has been aborted. That is absolutely horrible.

Even I see it going the Anjaam way. Nageen was fierce once but now she is emotionally unstable who is in desperate for stability in her life. If she loses Haroon as well, that will be the push for her to actually take revenge from Sultan.

Yes I know she lost the child, I couldn't be sure about the abortion thing. I think its coz I used watch Hindi shows mainly that are 'in-your-face' and the subtlety was overlooked by me in Deewangi. I think the makers have decided to make Sultan completely evil which is a waste. Unless they reveal a twist in the upcoming episodes where Sultan didn't do it, he is unredeemable. Very sick.

I guess they wanted to give us a jolt, like how Shivani loses the child in Anjaam because the inspector beats herstomach with a stick.

Nageen lost her stability because of pressures while Shivani became stronger after going to prison. I hope they end it within 2-3 more episodes coz its unbearable now.

Originally posted by: Ashley.Tisdale

I think the makers have decided to make Sultan completely evil which is a waste. Unless they reveal a twist in the upcoming episodes where Sultan didn't do it, he is unredeemable. Very sick.

@above - I know, they’ve gone the hard evil route. I suppose they want to complete it in 40 epis, so have now gone for the kill.

It is sick and I can’t believe they showed that a doctor would also stoop so low, but I guess they want Nageen to be able to get her revenge on Sultan and she couldn’t do that properly if she was pregnant or a mother. They have to break all ties so that once she finds out what he’s done, she is alone to come face to face in war with Sultan.

This has to be one of the worst written dramas I have ever watched. Aside from the constant dragging and prolonging the story unnecessarily, there was actually no proper character development of the leads. Danish basically carried the whole show on his shoulders, and I don’t think I’d have bothered watching it had it not been for the way he played Sultan. He completely owned that role, and he even made me feel sorry for Sultan. At one point I thought of him like the Julia Roberts character in My best friends wedding, she’s so underhand and wrong on every level trying to break up the couple but still the viewers can’t help rooting for her.😆

But this isn’t a romcom, and although sometimes Sultans antics in pursuing Nageen made me giggle in disbelief, he is still just a deeply troubled soul which will sadly remain stubborn, selfish and a very unlikable person till the end.

Yes it was a waste making Sultan completely evil, like you said, he had real potential in the story. But then why make Nageen suffer so much emotionally and (sometimes even physically) with Haroon and his mother? it made me think that Sultan might actually be a way out for Nageen when things got too bad for her.

But no, they had to keep making Sultan do more and more unforgivable things. Still feel sad at what could have been, but there’s no point now. Just like I can’t rewatch Anjaam (even though I love SRK), this drama sadly will also be on my once only list.