Conspiracy Theory - "Double Agent" Vansh / "Master Player" Riddhima - Page 4

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: libran90

Hey, thanks @Anysia. 😊

Only because we don't have a proper background to all 3 leads, which is why we are assuming all these theories, and anyway, a thriller can go in any direction as long as they make sense. So let's see.

Honestly, this show is a hotchpotch of all thriller movies.

@bold agree... 😆
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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: TC_FA

Were you on begusarai forum?

Yup, for a brief period I was.

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: libran90

Yup, for a brief period I was.

i joined IF because of Begusarai 😃

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: Gaurirane366

agree...

He could find truth through other means but he using marriage card... When you listen to his words during sindoor, bangles talks.. He is making sure ridz knows she is forever stuck with him only death can apart them .. That itself showed he will never let go of ridz even if come to know about Kabir.....

Moreover that talk itself shows he want that loyalty , love for himself......

Angre was asking vansh reason for marriage move .. But very smartly vansh diverted the topic... I mean you could tell your loyal employee reason for the marriage... But no

I know. I remember that scene. Do you remember what he said after that, "Taiyyaar ho jao, apne saare sawaalon ke jawaab paane ke liye. Hadh ab paar hogi, nafrat ki, saazish ki, gusse ki, jalan ki, ishq ki." It's like Vansh is ready to show her all that she wants to know. He will show her the story which she hasn't seen yet. This dialogue gives me vibes of Vansh being aware of Kabir, but I may be wrong.

That scene was Vansh tying down Riddhima in his personal cage, where it will only be him and her. Of course, Angre would question him, but does Vansh even know the answer to his questions. He himself does not know the answer to these questions.

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: pyaar2012

I totally and absolutely agreed with u by the Double agent theory.As u have watched Begusarai.Let me recall u an incident. After their allaince broke, Lakhan was mad at this incident and he supposedly killed the groom and his family in the mid way of the road to threat Poonam "s family. arranged by Phulan.Later, after getting married Poonam came to know that he never killed them but send them back by threatning verbally.likewise I feel Vansh might have lost his love in a mission, He can b the secret agent or Double Agent. I think.he definately is.I equally agree with ur theory regarding Riddhima. I am so happy to realize that i am not the only one who is thinking that. We have watched only 17 episodes . The story is fast paced but it is quite natural that the screts will open up gradually. Not so very soon. Helly herself confirmed the fact Riddhima now is a delicate girl but her character transformation is yet to b revealed.

Thanks, @pyaar2012😊

Yes, I remember when Lakhan showed Poonam the truth. He had also told her, that he loves her, and love does not let anyone turn into a monster. Riddhima has full capacity to be the player that we did not anticipate. Is Riddhima here to really hurt Vansh, or is she here because she is seeking something else. She shows hate for Vansh, it appears more like she has this knowing look like she has some complaint against Vansh like Vansh has hurt her and she wants to show him the truth. When she shows love to Kabir, it feels like she is deliberately behaving blind, deliberately playing innocent, deliberately making mistakes.

When she was describing love to Vansh, she was telling him that love isn't about dinners and flowers, it's about staying with that person in pain, to fulfill a commitment made to the person you love. Why do I get this feeling that those words were meant for Vansh and not Kabir? Did you see how Vansh saw her after that, like in that moment, he recognized her, but yet he is so far from recognizing her.

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: TC_FA

i joined IF because of Begusarai 😃

Okay, great.😊

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: Gaurirane366

@bold agree... 😆

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: libran90

I know. I remember that scene. Do you remember what he said after that, "Taiyyaar ho jao, apne saare sawaalon ke jawaab paane ke liye. Hadh ab paar hogi, nafrat ki, saazish ki, gusse ki, jalan ki, ishq ki." It's like Vansh is ready to show her all that she wants to know. He will show her the story which she hasn't seen yet. This dialogue gives me vibes of Vansh being aware of Kabir, but I may be wrong.

That scene was Vansh tying down Riddhima in his personal cage, where it will only be him and her. Of course, Angre would question him, but does Vansh even know the answer to his questions. He himself does not know the answer to these questions.

that dialogue does gave that vibes that he already knew about Kabir.....

Early mandir sequence when ring fall she told him when you are ready to share your personal life that day you except other to share their personal life....... ..

Vansh dialogue seem Like now I am ready to share my personal life

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: Gaurirane366

that dialogue does gave that vibes that he already knew about Kabir.....

Early mandir sequence when ring fall she told him when you are ready to share your personal life that day you except other to share their personal life....... ..

Vansh dialogue seem Like now I am ready to share my personal life

In fact, Vansh ko acha nahi laga when Riddhima took away that ring. He just does not like that Riddhima hides anything from him.

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: libran90

I am back again with the conspiracy thread 3 & 4 this week. I had two theories that have been making rounds in my mind and so I decided to put them together. These are just theories and I may be wrong, but what is the point of watching a thriller, if there aren't twists and turns in the way. So, here we go.

Vansh is a "double agent" in the guise of a white-collared criminal

So I have this thought running in my mind for a while now, what if Vansh isn't the white-collared criminal as described by Kabir. What if he is actually the opposite? All those who have seen thriller movies must be aware of double agents. Let's take the most spoken example in all our topics - Raazi. Sehmat's father was a "double agent" where he actually was working for the Indian government and was also an agent for the Pakistani government, but that was the actual facade. So that could also be the case with Vansh. Vansh from the beginning has been shown as a businessman with an illegal front on the side, and Kabir is the cop who is after him. But is this such a simple story. Well, I don't think so.

See, I am not looking at whitewashing the guy. I have seen many shows where there have been mafia and the stories have been about the lives and love of these characters, and I have enjoyed these shows - like Begusarai. I enjoyed watching it. But with this show, there is always this thing in the back of the mind that is all is not as what it seems. Just like I find Kabir as CBI agent dubious, so do I find his mafiagiri dubious. See, we have seen instances of Vansh's "illegal" dealings. But what happened to those people who struck a deal with him. So these are my questions:

1. Did these "clients" just get away or was there more to it?

2. Did Neha just fall to her death, or was there more to her death?

3. Does "Shera" really have any meaningful details of his illegal clientele or is it something if goes in the wrong hands then it will hurt innocent people?

4. Is he really working as a mafia or he is the mafia facade for the cops to catch hold of criminals?

5. Is the confidence that Vansh wears on his face when dealing with Kabir that of a cold and ruthless mafia boss or that of a strong character who will use all crooked means to do the right thing?

Let us see. As much as Vansh as a mafia boss is dubious, so is Riddhima's "Miss Oh-so-innocent" act dubious. That takes me to my next conspiracy theory.

Riddhima is the 3rd "master player" of this game all are underestimating

So, Riddhima, who is oh-so-innocent and a 2 rupee spy as well is someone who is grossly underestimated. See, when it comes to perception, as an individual we know who we are, others just believe the perception they have of us. Kabir believes Riddhima is innocent and has the personality of water, Vansh believes she is the lamb sent to hunt the hunter, in the family, some see her as a gold-digger and some see her as a ray of light for Vansh.

She may be shown as the pawn in this game between Vansh and Kabir, but I actually have another theory for this game. My instincts tell me that Riddhima is not a new pawn, but an old pawn who has returned with a new agenda to get even - either with Vansh or Kabir or both.

Riddhima is shown as an orphan who has a simple life and wants a simple life with Kabir. She can cross all limits for the man she loves. She has gone to spy on Vansh for Kabir. Yahaan tak to sab thik hai. But phir bhi locha hai ladki me. First of all, itni buri spying in the history of spying maine kabhi nahi dekhi. It's like she is deliberately trying to goof up, to come under Vansh's radar. And she continuously prodding Kabir to risk his cover or blowing his cover. And I don't know why, I always feel like whenever Vansh sees her, he recognizes her, but still cannot. Riddhima is not an innocent character. I feel that she is that same woman who triggered the animosity between Vansh and Kabir, or rather she was used to trigger it by either Vansh or Kabir. And somehow she ended up close to losing her life, but she returned with a new name and identity to get even with people who destroyed her. So my questions are:

1. Who spies so badly that your handler is at the risk of getting his cover blown?

2. Knowing Vansh, who calls from a new phone that too to her boyfriend she wants to protect?

3. Why does Vansh always look at her like he knows her?

4. Why does it seem that Riddhima did not enter the house for Kabir, but for herself?

5. Why does it seem that Riddhima knows what she is doing, and isn't as amateur as she is showing?

Well, too many questions. Sadly, we will not know so soon. But what we can know is your views. Do share guys.😊

Interesting, very interesting😃 ... i really liked ur conspiracy thread in fact i remember watching a drama "Heartless City aka Cruel City" where the ML is a most wanted criminal in the underworld and many police officials are behind him. Later, it was revealed that he is an undercover agent appointed by the high official and those top notch high officials are the real criminals and they were just using the ML and in the process someone very close to him died and he thought that it was from the underworld but they were the very same people who used him just to make sure he doesn't gets to them...


And i also agree with what u said about Riddhi, Is she deliberately trying to mess up while spying or what?? most of the time she leaves some kind of evidence behind which can easily point it out to her bcoz at least a normal person would be more careful compared to her. And more importantly why she always says that i want to see Vansh behind the bars instead of saying Vansh should be punished for being a smuggler...?

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