Vatsal says people go crazy for taimur, so don't cry nepotism if he - Page 4

Originally posted by: zehreeli.kheer

But I never said they don't know or that they don't do enough.. Kartik is papped quite often.. so is RKR.. so of course they know the drill

I was talking about new talent. Compare the number of times yet to debut Shanaya Kapoor gets papped to a Sanya, Mrunal, Tripti, Fatema...even a floppy Sanjay Kapoor clearly has so much money to spend.

Did people actually go crazy for Taimur?

Saif and Kareena are attention seekers

They think of themselves as maharaja and maharani of Timbuktu

First timur the lame

And then push the baby out to get papped

Then cry wolf

Originally posted by: LiveEatLove

I was talking about new talent. Compare the number of times yet to debut Shanaya Kapoor gets papped to a Sanya, Mrunal, Tripti, Fatema...even a floppy Sanjay Kapoor clearly has so much money to spend.

That's because they have their father's money.. judging from Sanjay's lifestyle, although he is a floppie, he has good enough money

I am trying to say being papped has nothing to do with insider/outsider, talent /no talent but with having money.. you have money.. you pay the paps and they will plaster your face all over their page..

At one point, even Fatima was papped quite a lot.. so was Patralekha.. kitna Paisa do ge, itna dikhoge

Originally posted by: BinKuchKahe.

When will these people understand? Nepotism isn't the issue. Talentless star kids who are given preference over talented actors is the issue. Talentless star kids whose way is paved by eliminating others who might pose a threat, by way of underhand tactics, is an issue.

These articles really emphasise how stupid BW actors are, and how freaking smart Sushant was.

Some may think Karthik Aryan is more talented than Ranbir and hence Ranbir getting big budget films over Karthik is unfair

Some may say no Ranbir is genuinely more talented hence he deserves these movies

For some Shradhha very talented and for some she is talentless star kid getting several opportunities

Same for Alia some think she is untalented and for some she is talented and hence she deserves her success

I mean the only universal metric can be box office success. If audience decides to watch an insider's movies again and again and not one but several of his/ her movies are a hit and outsider doesn't get the same doesn't it automatically mean that insider is more talented as he or she is able to bring in the audience? For example Alia, she has hardly had any flops most of her movies are hit or semi hit. She has been able to pull in the audience . So is she an untalented star kid? I mean definition of talent can be different for everyone. It means as long as one views the star kid as talented there is no issues if they are getting opportunity again and again which outsiders don't? It doesn't matter how they got their first movie or how they get their other moves easily as long as they are deemed to be talented?

Originally posted by: Sabhayata

For example Alia, she has hardly had any flops most of her movies are hit or semi hit. She has been able to pull in the audience . So is she an untalented star kid?

They said put anyone in the films they'd work. Yet some of those people cant get their own films to run 😆

Originally posted by: zehreeli.kheer

That's because they have their father's money.. judging from Sanjay's lifestyle, although he is a floppie, he has good enough money

I am trying to say being papped has nothing to do with insider/outsider, talent /no talent but with having money.. you have money.. you pay the paps and they will plaster your face all over their page..

At one point, even Fatima was papped quite a lot.. so was Patralekha.. kitna Paisa do ge, itna dikhoge

But the point remains the same...how will an 'outsider' debutante from a middle class family afford pr and do kharcha like a Shanaya Kapoor or say Poonam Dhillon's daughter , Pashmina Roshan etc...all soon to debut heroines.

Originally posted by: coldbrew

What these people passing the baton to audience fail to address is the role product placement plays in anything gaining attention/support.

Does audience have any power over carefully choreographed product placement of only one or two nepotistic jackasses? NO.

Does audience have any power over who gets plastered all over social media/television/talk shows? NO.

Does audience have any power over the limited pool of movies/actors they are having to make do with? NO.

The only thing we have the power to do is to watch or NOT to watch the limited pool of movies with the same bunch of nepotistic jackasses. That is only a fraction of the story here. To say that the entire responsibility rests squarely on our shoulders is the dumbest argument I've ever heard from people trying to divert the attention from filthy tactics in b'wood.

So many small scale outsiders movies have become hit like Raj Kumar Rao's or Ayushman Khurana's movies.

So lets not pretend audience doesn't have the power or the choice. They have plenty of power and plenty of choices . The true fate if this anti nepotism or anti star kids or untalented star kids vs talented actors will only be proven once next Dharma or Alia movie comes out. Lets see if people can take actual action and not watch these movies or they are only interested in writing hate messages on twitter.

Originally posted by: LiveEatLove

But the point remains the same...how will an 'outsider' debutante from a middle class family afford pr and do kharcha like a Shanaya Kapoor or say Poonam Dhillon's daughter , Pashmina Roshan etc...all soon to debut heroines.

If they can't afford they won't. Mandatory thodi na hai.

Originally posted by: LiveEatLove

But the point remains the same...how will an 'outsider' debutante from a middle class family afford pr and do kharcha like a Shanaya Kapoor or say Poonam Dhillon's daughter , Pashmina Roshan etc...all soon to debut heroines.

The same way an outsider newcomer middle class model arranges for his portfolio from a big photographer

And if they can't afford it, they won't be papped.. simple.. same goes for even starkids.. Paisa nahi hai tou even they won't be papped