Mahabharat Retelecast Discussion Thread 5 - Page 109

Kal ke epi me kya dikhaya

Originally posted by: Lazybird_Silpa

Kal ke epi me kya dikhaya

Karn finally died

But the way these tv series show it as karna being killed when he was weaponless & while removing chariot wheel only adds to the sympathy for karna that people have for him. this is what i was trying to say. Shows should be responsible while creating heroes out of characters like karna

Originally posted by: naq5

But the way these tv series show it as karna being killed when he was weaponless & while removing chariot wheel only adds to the sympathy for karna that people have for him. this is what i was trying to say. Shows should be responsible while creating heroes out of characters like karna

Karna has been whitewashed beyond repair(I know it's an oxymoronic statement)

People take him as an anti hero instead of a villian. His actions in Dyut Sabha are being constantly diminished. In fact in Dharmakshetra, they showed Karna leaving with his head down when Duryodhan orders Dusshashan to disrobe

A sympathy element is added to every phase of his life which was definitely not so miserable.

I read a person comment that he has become a fan of Karna after watching SPK, when I said that the show was completely wrong, the reaction was that he doesn't care if it was wrong or right, it's just that he has become a fan

Now if someone actually shows the truth, probably there would be no one to believe it. They might instead charge him

And the biggest irony is that in making Karna anti hero, they are continuously reducing his importance in the epic.

Karna is one of the foundations of Mahabharata. Remove him with the actions his dead and Mahabharatha is not even near to what it was. But the Karnas of today's shows are completely expendable characters like someone who is uselessly added into it

Originally posted by: FlauntPessimism

And the biggest irony is that in making Karna anti hero, they are continuously reducing his importance in the epic.

Karna is one of the foundations of Mahabharata. Remove him with the actions his dead and Mahabharatha is not even near to what it was. But the Karnas of today's shows are completely expendable characters like someone who is uselessly added into it

How?? He is mostly a side kick to duryodhan.

Originally posted by: Krishnapanchali

How?? He is mostly a side kick to duryodhan.

He is the sidekick to Duryodhan in shows but not in the epic there is he is only slightly (if at all) less than Duryodhan

He is the major antagonist in Dyut Sabha, Duryodhan actually plays his second fiddle there.

In most of the others conspiracies he is as active a participant as Duryodhan, he isn't just a side kick but actually a proponent of those m

He is one to mostly promote the hatred of Duryodhan towards Pandavas, while others including Shakuni try to calm him down.

He had won over major states of India (during Digvijay or else whatever) to gain riches from there, with actually was one of the major factors that made Hastinapur a state of its previous glory which actually was a cause of Pandavas reluctance to the war.

His presence is a major enabler of the war, in most probability, had he not been there, the elders would have convinced Duryodhan to return Indraprasth

Originally posted by: FlauntPessimism

He is the sidekick to Duryodhan in shows but not in the epic there is he is only slightly (if at all) less than Duryodhan

He is the major antagonist in Dyut Sabha, Duryodhan actually plays his second fiddle there.

In most of the others conspiracies he is as active a participant as Duryodhan, he isn't just a side kick but actually a proponent of those m

He is one to mostly promote the hatred of Duryodhan towards Pandavas, while others including Shakuni try to calm him down.

He had won over major states of India (during Digvijay or else whatever) to gain riches from there, with actually was one of the major factors that made Hastinapur a state of its previous glory which actually was a cause of Pandavas reluctance to the war.

His presence is a major enabler of the war, in most probability, had he not been there, the elders would have convinced Duryodhan to return Indraprasth

Nah it is the show which glorify him beyond limit. In epic his importance is less than duryodhan.

He wasn't even part of the war for first ten days. Though i agree he did manipulate duryodhan

Originally posted by: Krishnapanchali

Nah it is the show which glorify him beyond limit. In epic his importance is less than duryodhan.

He wasn't even part of the war for first ten days. Though i agree he did manipulate duryodhan

The shows highlight him in a positive things which actually is nothing near to real him

But the epic he is the second lead antagonist and nearly equal to Duryodhan everywhere. Dyut Sabha Draupadi humiliation is entirely his doing

He was not there for the first 10 days of the war, but the epic has many more things excluding the war where he has immense importance as well. By the way he killed 2.37 Akshauni Pandav army alone which is more than one third of the total army and he participated in less than 40% of the war. But that's not what I am saying was his importance

1) Without Dyut Sabha humiliation the war wouldn't have been so personal to Draupadi and Krishna probably even Sahdev, Yudhishtir and elder Pandavas might have then been convinced for no war

2) Without Karna Duryodhan wouldn't have had confidence of winning the war, especially since he had trust issues with Drona n Bheeshm, he wouldn't have gone into the war with just Ashwathama. Aside it was Karna who convinced him for victory, others including Shakuni discouraged him for the war. In the absence of him and these acts, he might have agreed to return Indraprasth there wouldn't have been a war then

3) He got immense wealth from across the country for Duryodhan and confirmed him that they are capable of dismantling Pandavas, which actually bloated the ego of latter which led to his arrogance at the Shanti Prastav. I know the villages were not worth giving, but Duryodhan could have at least given a counteroffer instead of outrageously rejecting it.

The only reason why Duryodhan had to go without him for the first ten days is that he backed out at the last moment, things had escalated pretty too much by then, backing off was no longer an option

4) He along with Shakuni were the planners of killing of Pandavs during the childhood, Duryodhan was the just a kid to have made such conspiracies

Even if he didn't participate in the war, he was very much there at Kurukshetra, Dury might have been meeting him every night for strategy discussion, we don't know. It's not that Duryodhan went to the war Completely without him.

Calling him a sidekick to Duryodhan is like Calling Amit Shah the side kick to Modi(don't get me wrong am not comparing BJP to Kauravs just sharing the importance equivalence) Just as Krishna, Yudhishtir Arjun and somewhat Bheem are the main protagonist, Duryodhan, Karna and somehow Shakuni are the main antagonists

These seven along with Bheeshm and above all Draupadi are the foundations of the epic.

The other characters are important for sure, but these are completely the base.

Yeah if talk about Mahabharata then

Yudhishtra and drapaudi are the main protagonist. It was ultimately their jaya their win. Duryodhan is the main antagonist.

Followed by krishna.

Then bheem/arjuna.

Karna can be the second important antagonist.