Mahabharat Retelecast Discussion Thread - Page 51

Originally posted by: Armu4eva

I know. My comments were related to what SP is showing and even in that they messed up. The scenes and dialogues are so choppy. I swear the actors might be giving big gaalis to the editing team😆

Yeah I am not watching on TV but on hotstar. So I can skip what I dislike 🤣

I have read that Draupadi in her previous life was married to a Rishi who had leprosy but she was devoted to him. Pleased, he asks her for a boon, she asks him to make love to her in different forms.. he does but she keeps asking for it.

He decides to renounce but she is still isn’t satisfied and he curses her.

She thus prays to Lord Shiva for a husband.

Ved Vyas tells Drupad about this so it’s taken as destiny, and sometimes you don’t choose destiny.

I don’t think there is anything specific in the epic whether she was happy or not with the arrangement.

Are men unhappy when they had multiple wives?

Bhagvad Gita samvaad between Arjuna and Krishna on the field of Kurukshetra was such a disappointment in new StarPlusBharat. Couldn't connect to it at all.

Old MBH of BRC did it so distinctly.

Originally posted by: rmahi25

Waitt Mahabharat wali Satyavati??

Yes. She had s*x with Maharishi Parashar before shantanu. Ved Vyas was their son. She wasn’t married to him, she only satisfied his lust and took the opportunity to seek boons from him.

Originally posted by: CaptainSpark

Vyasa, Kunti and Yudhishthir cooks up bullshit to justify the sharing of Draupadi.

Tbh, here the question is not about whether it is right or wrong, but it is about consent- whether Draupadi was okay with it.

Now maybe she was, or she was not. From a political perspective, she was because without Yudhishthir she could not be empress.

But the fact remains- she was never asked. Yudhi Kunti etc took their decisions and Arjun didn't even bother to protest infact he said elder bro should be married before ie IN THE REAL TEXT.

I still as a woman do not think this is justified. Draupadi may have had her intentions but Yudhi or Arjun or Kunti had no intentions of making her empress but to keep the unity. So they basically used a woman as a rope to tie the 5 brothers. Which is wrong, no matter what the woman is thinking. Was she asked? No.

The text doesn’t give that much insight so it’s hard to come to a conclusion as to what was going on in her mind at that point.

Originally posted by: Autumn_Rose

The text doesn’t give that much insight so it’s hard to come to a conclusion as to what was going on in her mind at that point.

That's why I said she may or may not have been okay with it.

If you study her character well, she is someone who understands politics very well. So naturally if that's the light we are judging her from then she was probably okay.

There can be other interpretations too. The text can't narrate her feelings. The text only gives incidents and dialogues from which we have to interpret.

Originally posted by: Autumn_Rose

Yes. She had s*x with Maharishi Parashar before shantanu. Ved Vyas was their son. She wasn’t married to him, she only satisfied his lust and took the opportunity to seek boons from him.

An early example of sex hospitality.

There's a suggestive theory of Karna's case being the same - that he was actually Durvasa's son from Kunti and Kunti was either forced or she too did the same as Satya, sex hospitality.

If you see it from a non divine angle, it's very probable.

Originally posted by: Autumn_Rose

I have read that Draupadi in her previous life was married to a Rishi who had leprosy but she was devoted to him. Pleased, he asks her for a boon, she asks him to make love to her in different forms.. he does but she keeps asking for it.

He decides to renounce but she is still isn’t satisfied and he curses her.

She thus prays to Lord Shiva for a husband.

Ved Vyas tells Drupad about this so it’s taken as destiny, and sometimes you don’t choose destiny.

I don’t think there is anything specific in the epic whether she was happy or not with the arrangement.

Are men unhappy when they had multiple wives?

Men aren't, but they do it voluntarily and also they marry princesses of different kingdoms generally hence it's a political alliance in most cases. (Eg: Arjun and his wives)

In this case, all the Princes are from the same dynasty/kingdom. Draupadi was not aware that this was going to happen, and I don't buy this Lord Shiva boon theory because IMO it's possible to see the text from a non divine historical perspective and give it the chance that some of these incidents actually took place. It's hard to accept realistically that she was being given her boon from last birth.

There's no reason to think she was happy with five brothers. It served no purposes except lust or sexual satisfaction. Only her marriage to Yudhi made her the empress. Also in most cases, men choose their wives or the princesses (again based on politics) . The same isn't applicable here.

Also, nothing about feelings is explicitly stated in the epic. That does not mean we cannot interpret or discuss what characters were feeling.

For all you know, this Vyasa coming and dictating and this past life story can very much be a calculated patriarchal addition of interpolation to justify this nonsense by Yudhi Kunti etc.

Alot of these strange divine justifications are interpolations IMO.

Originally posted by: CaptainSpark

An early example of sex hospitality.

There's a suggestive theory of Karna's case being the same - that he was actually Durvasa's son from Kunti and Kunti was either forced or she too did the same as Satya, sex hospitality.

If you see it from a non divine angle, it's very probable.

But how can we explain the kavach kundal and Surya Dev coming to Karn?

I don’t think it’s probable because Rishi Durvasa was an ansh of Mahadev. Also, if it’s acceptable than why hide it?

It seems to me that kids born out of wedlock, from sages aren’t frowned upon.

But Yudhishthir couldn’t lie.

Draupadi was not just anyone in her past life, she was Nalayani. Her husband is said to have obtained moksha and had authored one of the upanishads.

Also, I feel that Mahabharata is a product of vows, boons and curses so we can’t separate the two.