Pyaar ke sadqay - Yashma Gill,Yumna Zaidi, Bilal Abbas, Omair Rana -Hu - Page 63

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Originally posted by: Ruby7

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this is from raaz e ulfat

Yeah hina thanks for the correction by mistake I posted it here, got confused bec Yumna is doing both shows

Originally posted by: canuck-umz

I didn't mean anything bad by it, I simply said your expectations are high if you feel that someone probably has a disorder if they can't perform a simple task. I was only informing you of my struggles and other people too that it's very much possible even if one doesn't have any issues. I was only making fun of myself there. What was so wrong in that?

I wasn't offended. No where was my comment rude either. I was simply making an observation and relating things to myself. It's a show and we are all here to discuss it. I didn't realize I couldn't comment on your posts. My bad. I will make sure not to next time.

For both of them, their parents are to be blamed. Abdullah has been very abused from a young age, before Sarwar he witnessed his mom being abused by his father, and he has a mother who doesn't take a stand for him or point out Sarwar's misdeeds. So him having issues such as social anxiety are justified and well documented in real life cases too. As for Mahjabeen, her parents failed her. They are from a lower social class and she has lived a sheltered existence. In the last episode her mom did not bother to hear her daughter properly in regards to Sarwar, neither did the parents warn her against Sarwar and neither did the mom discuss things like intimacy, etc. Even after her rishta to doctor Hammad her mom didn't discuss these things. Mahjabeen is a product of her parents failed upbringing. It has been stated in interviews that they don't have psychological disorders. I think that these two can thrive and become "normal" given a healthy environment.

Woah, when did I tell you to look up signs of mental illness on the internet? I only told you to Google cooking fails to see how people fail so hard at simple things. Please point out to me exactly where I told you to Google mental illness because I am seriously confused right now with why you said all that. And thanks but FYI I also graduated with a Psychology degree along with health sciences and a whole bunch of other stuff.

By all means discuss the show and post your opinions on it, that doesnt mean you have to demean another persons opinion just to get your own point across. We can have healthy discussions here too without pointing fingers at each other but saying "youre expectations are too high of people" is a personal attack. I still dont understand where that judgement came from just based on a mere fictional character btw.

I wasnt referring to just Abdullahs anxiety but also his IQ in maths. Just like Salar from PeK, normal people can not do such calculations in their brains in such a short time therefore these people are specially abled.

I know a lot of people fail at simple things and I am one of them. I still believe there is some history behind it which makes us that way. I still cannot cook despite being married and cannot do a lot of things which people my age can do. I am not good at communicating with people either. But I have a history behind it as I was born blind and faced s lot of problems in my childhood at school due to my eye issues and had to struggle a lot which made me an introvert and a less confident person. Just like me, I believe others also have underlying issues behind the way they are even if they are not consciously aware of it.

Originally posted by: heavenlybliss

By all means discuss the show and post your opinions on it, that doesnt mean you have to demean another persons opinion just to get your own point across. We can have healthy discussions here too without pointing fingers at each other but saying "youre expectations are too high of people" is a personal attack. I still dont understand where that judgement came from just based on a mere fictional character btw.

I wasnt referring to just Abdullahs anxiety but also his IQ in maths. Just like Salar from PeK, normal people can not do such calculations in their brains in such a short time therefore these people are specially abled.

I know a lot of people fail at simple things and I am one of them. I still believe there is some history behind it which makes us that way. I still cannot cook despite being married and cannot do a lot of things which people my age can do. I am not good at communicating with people either. But I have a history behind it as I was born blind and faced s lot of problems in my childhood at school due to my eye issues and had to struggle a lot which made me an introvert and a less confident person. Just like me, I believe others also have underlying issues behind the way they are even if they are not consciously aware of it.

Wait what? How was that demeaning at all? In fact the only person I demeaned was myself. I am sorry about offending you or it coming across as offensive but like I said, I did not mean it in a bad way at all. Having high expectations of people is not a demeaning thing to say in any way shape or form and neither is it a personal attack. All it means is that you hold certain expectations from people as in you always believe that people will deliver their best and nothing less so if they don't do something the way you think they should, it surprises you. There is nothing more to it or that it is a bad thing. This is something that I hear in normal conversation between people all the time like saying to their friend "man you have such high expectations" and it's laughed off. Anyways, I am sorry once again if it came out wrong. I was speaking in a very informal tone as a friend and didn't realize it would sound bad to you. I thought you knew me better than that that I don't indulge in attacks. Truly apologize for this misunderstanding, I honestly had no intention of hurting you.

You just made the same point as me. Abdullah's abusive history and very likely Mahjabeen's sheltered upbringing plus zero encouragement resulted in their current personalities. The only way my point differs is that I don't think it's necessary for them to be on the DSM as the reason to why they are this way. Like with Mahjabeen I just think she is dumb and needs to discover what she is good at. I am assuming no one ever encouraged her art skills. Just like how Abdullah is good at math but not business and he is discouraged by the one person he looks up to. Like you mentioned, your communication troubles stem from your history of eye issues which caused those struggles. Basically all I was saying is that yes there can be underlying reasons for the way someone is but it doesn't have to mean they are on the DSM. I had previously brought up a friend of mine who is exactly like Mahjabeen and this friend does not have any kind of underlying history. The poor thing is just not the brightest person naturally but she discovered her talent which is cooking and I am assuming they will show Mahjabeen discovering her talent too?

Abdullah x Mahjabeen VM

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Originally posted by: canuck-umz

Wait what? How was that demeaning at all? In fact the only person I demeaned was myself. I am sorry about offending you or it coming across as offensive but like I said, I did not mean it in a bad way at all. Having high expectations of people is not a demeaning thing to say in any way shape or form and neither is it a personal attack. All it means is that you hold certain expectations from people as in you always believe that people will deliver their best and nothing less so if they don't do something the way you think they should, it surprises you. There is nothing more to it or that it is a bad thing. This is something that I hear in normal conversation between people all the time like saying to their friend "man you have such high expectations" and it's laughed off. Anyways, I am sorry once again if it came out wrong. I was speaking in a very informal tone as a friend and didn't realize it would sound bad to you. I thought you knew me better than that that I don't indulge in attacks. Truly apologize for this misunderstanding, I honestly had no intention of hurting you.

You just made the same point as me. Abdullah's abusive history and very likely Mahjabeen's sheltered upbringing plus zero encouragement resulted in their current personalities. The only way my point differs is that I don't think it's necessary for them to be on the DSM as the reason to why they are this way. Like with Mahjabeen I just think she is dumb and needs to discover what she is good at. I am assuming no one ever encouraged her art skills. Just like how Abdullah is good at math but not business and he is discouraged by the one person he looks up to. Like you mentioned, your communication troubles stem from your history of eye issues which caused those struggles. Basically all I was saying is that yes there can be underlying reasons for the way someone is but it doesn't have to mean they are on the DSM. I had previously brought up a friend of mine who is exactly like Mahjabeen and this friend does not have any kind of underlying history. The poor thing is just not the brightest person naturally but she discovered her talent which is cooking and I am assuming they will show Mahjabeen discovering her talent too?

Its alright I understand you didnt mean it that way. Thats why they say internet communication is a bundle of misunderstandings. You can never tell in what sense the other person is talking or if they are srious or joking 😂

What is DSM? And what made you feel that Mahjabeens behaviour is an outcome of bad parenting?

Im also waiting for the day when Abdullah and Mahjabeen will discover themselves and become two independent strong people. And I think both of them will help eac other in this journey unknowingly.

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A fine episode. I am glad that finally mansoora is getting her senses back and she is understanding sarwar's intentions. I hope she start understanding abdullah as well. And she, pho or vashma should play a cupid to emit all the distances between AB and M. And once they started feeling for each other than they will stand for each other, help each other by encouraging each other and this will help them in becoming confident individuals.

Abdullah is not dumb he just lack confidence. He just need his self confidence. The day he start devolping self confidence he would be an independent man. But still i am confused. What's wrong with Mehjabeen? She is dumb. Or her parents never guided her or took her seriously and her mental state. She definitely needs someone who can undetstand her and help her in making her a confident and a wise person and groom her and definitely yeh Abdullah sy acha aur koi nhi kar sakhta.

Waiting for next episode.

Originally posted by: heavenlybliss

Its alright I understand you didnt mean it that way. Thats why they say internet communication is a bundle of misunderstandings. You can never tell in what sense the other person is talking or if they are srious or joking 😂

What is DSM? And what made you feel that Mahjabeens behaviour is an outcome of bad parenting?

Im also waiting for the day when Abdullah and Mahjabeen will discover themselves and become two independent strong people. And I think both of them will help eac other in this journey unknowingly.

Aw I am glad. I felt so bad. I would never do that to you. I realize it was very informal of me but it's more of a compliment than anything else because I personally find people with higher expectations to be very positive; always thinking people will do their best however, if they don't it really sucks and such a let down. True though that over the internet and just typing things out can come across in a different way. A friend of mine always thought I was angry in texts because I use proper punctuation. For them periods in texts meant anger.

DSM is the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual for Mental Disorders. It is the standard used to diagnose mental disorders. Think back to when you were studying Psychology in university.

As the episodes go on, it has become more obvious with Mahjabeen's parents. By bad parenting I mean how they haven't taught Mahjabeen anything. Children and youngsters have a huge capacity to learn but Mahjabeen's parents always chalk it up to "massomiyat" and drop it. Like even today Mansoora said that Mahjabeen was sick due to something she ate. Why didn't Mahjabeen's mother question her about why she thought she was pregnant? Why didn't she then explain things to her? Last episode her mother didn't bother to properly hear out Mahjabeenin in regards to Sarwar. She didn't even explain properly why Sarwar shouldn't touch her neither did she explain the difference between good and bad touch. When Mahjabeen got married why did her parents not warn her about Sarwar? They know their daughter is naive so they should explain to her to beware of Sarwar. When parents don't like someone or understand bad intentions they always warn their daughters to stay away from that person. Why did her dad walk out after Sarwar dropped her home? If I was her dad I would have been like did Sarwar do or say anything to you? Instead her dad is like I gotta meet someone and then dips. Her parents clearly didn't take any initiative to get Mahjabeen extra help with school. Not everyone is smart but hard work pays off. A classmate of mine was showing me her artwork; her stuff is so good but then she showed me her artwork from years ago and it was terrible. She basically worked hard and practiced so her artwork went from terrible to amazing in the span of a few years. If Mahjabeen was given the proper attention when it comes to education and in regular matters then she wouldn't have been like this.