Why Ramanand Sagar didn't show "Ahirawan"?

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Ahirawan was so main. Why did RS miss that concept?

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Idk really. 😳 Can someone please recount that story for me, I remember it only from that animated movie. 😆

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Posted: 5 years ago
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The Ahiravan story, as shown on Ananda Sagar Ramayan


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jAZKu9HjF8&list=PLC66D02514C3A4892

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Yeah i have seen this. Don't know why RS missed it

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Posted: 5 years ago
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I don't think Ahiravan story was in RCM, and as we know RCM was main source for RSR.

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: RamKiSeeta

I don't think Ahiravan story was in RCM, and as we know RCM was main source for RSR.


In fact, Tulsidas does mention Ahiravan, hence his appearance in the Sankat Mochan Hanuman Ashtak ("Bandhu Samet Jabay Ahiravan Lai Raghunath Patal Siddhaaro") and the his Hanuman aarti often recited along with the Hanuman Chalisa ("Ahiravan ki bhuja ukhaade"). Though it's not described in detail in RCM, it is alluded to and it's summarized in these additional compositions by him.


It's Valmiki Ramayan that does not mention the Ahiravan incident. The original source for that story is the Bengali Krittivas Ramayan which Ramanand Sagar did not consider one if his 5 points of reference for major events to include/omit from the show.


He mentions this in the onscreen appearance he makes after the Agni Pariksha. He lists both the Ahiravan story and Sulochana becoming a sati as incidents he skipped for that same reason. Given the prior appearance he made to explain the sources behind the Naagpaash episode in response to outrage from viewers who didn't believe Ram was ever "defeated" in any of the battles, I think his sidestepping this incident that is only detailed in a regional version anyway was a wise decision. Probably not worth the backlash in terms of value/meaning.

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Except that the Krittivas Ramayan account of Ahiravan and Mahiravan were totally different. There, Mahiravan was a son of Ravan, and Ahiravan was his son, and both were killed by Hanuman, rather than Rama.


A full account of the Mahiravan story can be found in this thread in Mytho masti


https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/indian-mythology/1695704/ramayan-of-krittivas-ojha-a-study-new-updt-pg-11


The Mahiravan-Ahiravan incident is far different from that shown in NDTV Ramayan. Here Mahiravan is another son of Ravan who born in patal-lok & lived there. Here Ahiravan is son of Mahiravan (not brother) & presence of a serpent woman (naag-kanya) is not found in the whole incident. Mahiravan's planfor abducting Ram-Lakshman is very interesting & unique. Devi Durga (Jogaadyaa) told Hanumanthe way of Mahiravan's death!

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: MagadhSundari


In fact, Tulsidas does mention Ahiravan, hence his appearance in the Sankat Mochan Hanuman Ashtak ("Bandhu Samet Jabay Ahiravan Lai Raghunath Patal Siddhaaro") and the his Hanuman aarti often recited along with the Hanuman Chalisa ("Ahiravan ki bhuja ukhaade"). Though it's not described in detail in RCM, it is alluded to and it's summarized in these additional compositions by him.


It's Valmiki Ramayan that does not mention the Ahiravan incident. The original source for that story is the Bengali Krittivas Ramayan which Ramanand Sagar did not consider one if his 5 points of reference for major events to include/omit from the show.


He mentions this in the onscreen appearance he makes after the Agni Pariksha. He lists both the Ahiravan story and Sulochana becoming a sati as incidents he skipped for that same reason. Given the prior appearance he made to explain the sources behind the Naagpaash episode in response to outrage from viewers who didn't believe Ram was ever "defeated" in any of the battles, I think his sidestepping this incident that is only detailed in a regional version anyway was a wise decision. Probably not worth the backlash in terms of value/meaning.


Oh really? I did not know this.


I don't really care much for this story either way. The only thing I like about it is Hanuman meeting his son Makaradhwaja, but otherwise it doesn't really add much to the story in terms of either action, emotions or lessons.

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