Daily Interaction Thread - 01!!! - Page 94

Originally posted by: Nikki_srk

I knew you would... After all, we are an almost completely like minded duo

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That we are! 😳 😳 😳

Okay guys! So I have ranted enough for today, I guess. 🤔

Now, I am gonna bore you two with my fangirling a bit as you both know how much I love Grey's and today was the last episode of this season.

Speaking of which, I have this crazy habit of reading reviews of episodes. To compare how I am feeling about particular situation and how others are reacting to it. So I did the same today and found IVs of the current show runner Krista Vernoff.

Frankly, I have wanted to dubofy her in PK several times but actually wanted to hug her twice. First - when Caterina revealed that Krista herself was an ex-addict and that is why she wrote Amelia's struggle so brilliantly. And second time was in last season when they aired the Sexual Assault episode.

Today might be the third time as she pointed out these particular issues -

Why was it important to have DeLuca figure it out and not, say, Meredith [Ellen Pompeo]?

It felt like a beautiful thing to say that a person can be struggling with mental health and mental illness and still be a productive, proactive member of society. You don't see that represented a lot on TV, and we loved that spin.

Amelia giving birth with an assist from Bailey (Chandra Wilson) was both a full-circle moment for their short-lived pregnancy club, but also a callback to Bailey’s own birth experience with George (T.R. Knight) in the second season. What was the inspiration for that?

I have to give credit to our writer Meg Marinis for that gorgeous moment where Bailey gets into bed with Amelia. Every time I watch it, I burst into spontaneous tears. It is the full-circle of pregnancy club, but it’s also the callback to Season 2 and George and Bailey. It just brings up all that nostalgia. And that was pitched by Meg Marinis, who has been with the show since Season 2. She was a PA, then our medical researcher for years, then a writer, and now she’s an executive producer. She’s been with us 15 seasons,and when she pitched it, we burst into tears. It’s just one of those moments. I think only Meg could have come up with that pitch. She’s been there from the beginning through all of it and it was so full circle. So beautiful.

The big cliffhanger now is the Teddy-Owen wedding. In the past we saw Owen struggle to choose between Teddy and another woman; what was the motivation behind flipping the script on that relationship?

It has been my experience as a human being that I often get to live the flip side of a dynamic. If I have felt like the victim in a certain dynamic, in my next relationship I end up experiencing what may be my partner in the old relationship was going through. Anytime I judge anyone too aggressively for their behavior, I end up having to live some version of it that gives some level of empathy and understanding. I feel like Teddy and Owen, it was a perfect way to flip a whole bunch of paradigms and to look at Teddy through new lenses and to give her a new lived experience that gives her new understanding of the experiences that she's been through. That is the story that I'm most disappointed that we didn't get to complete this season because everyone's so mad at Teddy right now and it feels like it's going to be a long summer for Kim Raver. [Laughs] But listen, men cheat all the time on television and those characters are redeemed, and it's really rare that women cheat and then are redeemed. You just don't see it. Culturally, if a woman cheats, she's written off as a w**re permanently. That's what happens in our culture and that's what happens on television, and I think that this is a beautiful opportunity to shake that up.

Honestly, I haven't been the biggest supporter of DeLuca this season because of the sudden shift in his personal and professional life. It completely goes against the earlier seasons. In fact, I feel the idea of manic-depression hit the writers during the Spring Break which makes it even more irrelevant.

However, I felt really glad that as writers, they took it upon themselves to treat people with mental illness with equal respect.

Then the second portion hit me as earlier we were talking about giving credit and humility. Specially George was a beloved character who died in Season 5 and supported Bailey solely because her husband had an accident and was being operated on. So it was really a full circle that unfortunately Link was pulled into an emergency surgery and Amelia was alone when Bailey was there for her.

And third and most important was pointing out the hypocrisy that male characters cheat and get redeemed but female characters get a permanent tag.

So yeah, loved these points and wanted to share with you people. 😊 😊 😊

That was a huge discussion and great to read, like when you are so connected.

Points you made are also beautiful and interesting.

This is what am saying, when people take responsibility, discuss so much on the arcs and everything. Which I have seen a few people do. Like talking pros and cons but taking responsibility. Not justifying everything just for the sake.

In Hindi, very few people actually discuss issues and stuff or their views on these details. Am not much in off-screen so not the right person, but my observation is just like they will talk on upcoming tracks and kinda justify, rather than talking on views or opinions.

Infact I saw an interesting interview of Ekta and Gul, where they actually talked such details and interesting takes. Like Ekta was telling how they have to make heartbreak as art, and both discussed, how they can't ever show women having affairs, or going to same guy and all cos tv audience demands that and it gets trps. They can explore on the Web.

On a totally side note, no offense but do actors really have to take that some credit team gets?!

Like this is one reason I prefer not seeing much, cos attitude becomes too much.

Like saying, we write dialogues, do some choreography too, write few sequences cos we know character best.

Honestly, you are doing it on your own, PH hasn't told you, so do it without bragging or don't do. Plus writers, dialogue writers know a lot on character and whole team is actually involved! So Stop stealing little time credit they get and take away the thunder.

Amount of hardwork team puts is unmatched, apt dialogues, words, references, background, angles.

Or if you are doing something, it's a job, so few things you anyways have to do extra, but we don't go bragging on it!

Definitely! Call me crazy but since yesterday, I was searching using hashtag because it's impossible in GA that someone can give birth to a baby normally. Besides, they had to conclude the season earlier due to Covid Pandemic and I was biting my nail that if they would actually show it completely or leave it on a cliff hanger.

But the first thing that I saw today morning was a fan posting parallel in Twitter of George supporting Bailey and now Bailey supporting Amelia. I can't describe the feeling of completeness.

And please bear with me; as you know often these scene are made funny which it was. Still when Amelia was screaming in pain that why do we women go through this and Bailey calmly comforting her saying - Because when you love someone too much, it becomes impossible to contain all that love and you decide to make another person out of that love - it might be cheesy but still it was so amazing because that's what a child is supposed to be. The result of love between two people but often we are shown such tracks just for the sake of it.

The thing that struck even harder was that even Bailey was pregnant and both the women were so happy at first and then they even formed a club of two - The Pregnancy Club. 😎 But Bailey had a miscarriage. 😭 😭 😭 So when Amelia realized that she was only talking about her physical pain but Bailey must have had a really hard time, she apologized and asked Bailey to leave as it was emotional for her too. But Bailey stayed there and the expression in both the actors' faces - the subtle change from the funny banter to extremely emotional was something that would make me cry every time I watch it.

Not to mention when Link came running and Bailey handed him over the kid. They had a family but Bailey lost her kid who wasn't even born. It was extremely emotional and painful.

About taking responsibility, I couldn't agree more with you. 🤗

Because, as I told you that I wasn't convinced by DeLuca's storyline but the creator actually seesyhe thing in a way and she wants to send a message that it's also another form of illness and you shouldn't discriminate a person for that - marvelous. 👏

And no matter how much we say, at the end of the day people want romance and some are crazy for their favorites. You search #greys and you'll see there are so many different ideologies. So it's not possible for a show runner to address them all.

Who gives us the right to judge Ekta or Gul? We hypocrites don't give TRP to shows like P.O.W. or YMMKD and then we say the content is bad. If Bhagya twins or Jinn gives them money, why wouldn't they invest money behind that?

And I do remember a IV of Gul that she couldn't see Chandni in Sanaya like she could see Khushi in her. So she didn't repeat Sanaya-Barun. It completely depends on a creative's foresight because he/she knows what will unfold in future.

But yes, Gul sometimes come across very insulting and as a viewer I wouldn't like that too. Plus attachment is another thing. So I feel it's bi-directional. As audience we should trust their judgement while as producers, they too should respect audiences' choice sometimes.

In ITV, it's pretty uncommon where I have seen people taking responsibility. But then again I have mainly seen third angles taking stand for their characters but then you know how they get trolled.

I would say Pankhuri Awasthy was quite firm in her stand regarding Vedika's character in YRKKH. But the threads that they had created - simply disgusting! 🤢 🤢 🤢

I can back it up a little because we all have this tendency that when we do something good and get appreciated, we say that we worked really hard. But it doesn't really mean I have to take all the limelight because there are so many people behind it and they work tirelessly to make it look real.

Don't kill me for saying this but this I have particularly seen to be done by some ITV actors and a few recent stars in my country. Otherwise, those who are termed legends in our country, I can't remember I have even seen either of them to brag about it. They were always like how they were taught by the elders and everything.

In American I have mostly seen actors giving credit to the writer and director because they are very particular about the end product and the actor absorbs it and then enact.

I would say, ITV actors, specially the young ones who enjoy massive following don't know how to keep their professionalism. Here, fans go overboard with the actors only and they themselves get too much of attitude. I wish the same credit was given to the people working behind the camera.

Originally posted by: nushy1995

Definitely! Call me crazy but since yesterday, I was searching using hashtag because it's impossible in GA that someone can give birth to a baby normally. Besides, they had to conclude the season earlier due to Covid Pandemic and I was biting my nail that if they would actually show it completely or leave it on a cliff hanger.

But the first thing that I saw today morning was a fan posting parallel in Twitter of George supporting Bailey and now Bailey supporting Amelia. I can't describe the feeling of completeness.

And please bear with me; as you know often these scene are made funny which it was. Still when Amelia was screaming in pain that why do we women go through this and Bailey calmly comforting her saying - Because when you love someone too much, it becomes impossible to contain all that love and you decide to make another person out of that love - it might be cheesy but still it was so amazing because that's what a child is supposed to be. The result of love between two people but often we are shown such tracks just for the sake of it.

The thing that struck even harder was that even Bailey was pregnant and both the women were so happy at first and then they even formed a club of two - The Pregnancy Club. 😎 But Bailey had a miscarriage. 😭 😭 😭 So when Amelia realized that she was only talking about her physical pain but Bailey must have had a really hard time, she apologized and asked Bailey to leave as it was emotional for her too. But Bailey stayed there and the expression in both the actors' faces - the subtle change from the funny banter to extremely emotional was something that would make me cry every time I watch it.

Not to mention when Link came running and Bailey handed him over the kid. They had a family but Bailey lost her kid who wasn't even born. It was extremely emotional and painful.

About taking responsibility, I couldn't agree more with you. 🤗

Because, as I told you that I wasn't convinced by DeLuca's storyline but the creator actually seesyhe thing in a way and she wants to send a message that it's also another form of illness and you shouldn't discriminate a person for that - marvelous. 👏

And no matter how much we say, at the end of the day people want romance and some are crazy for their favorites. You search #greys and you'll see there are so many different ideologies. So it's not possible for a show runner to address them all.

Who gives us the right to judge Ekta or Gul? We hypocrites don't give TRP to shows like P.O.W. or YMMKD and then we say the content is bad. If Bhagya twins or Jinn gives them money, why wouldn't they invest money behind that?

And I do remember a IV of Gul that she couldn't see Chandni in Sanaya like she could see Khushi in her. So she didn't repeat Sanaya-Barun. It completely depends on a creative's foresight because he/she knows what will unfold in future.

But yes, Gul sometimes come across very insulting and as a viewer I wouldn't like that too. Plus attachment is another thing. So I feel it's bi-directional. As audience we should trust their judgement while as producers, they too should respect audiences' choice sometimes.

In ITV, it's pretty uncommon where I have seen people taking responsibility. But then again I have mainly seen third angles taking stand for their characters but then you know how they get trolled.

I would say Pankhuri Awasthy was quite firm in her stand regarding Vedika's character in YRKKH. But the threads that they had created - simply disgusting! 🤢 🤢 🤢

Okay, interesting!

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There have been way better shows and even they both have made good content, learnt and changed. It's not on judging them, they had some really interesting discussions. Like tv is stereotyped is just one of them. Plus ofc they have to do business, if audience is open for content, they will give that.

Yes, definitely and producers have their vision. Yes, bidirectional.

Exactly, even I have seen a few.

Honestly, except leads all get trolled for no reason. All 3rd angles do, even if their characters made way more sense. Be it Vedika, Raima, Nishant or others.

Originally posted by: Madhura..

Okay, interesting!

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There have been way better shows and even they both have made good content, learnt and changed. It's not on judging them, they had some really interesting discussions. Like tv is stereotyped is just one of them. Plus ofc they have to do business, if audience is open for content, they will give that.

Yes, definitely and producers have their vision. Yes, bidirectional.

Exactly, even I have seen a few.

Honestly, except leads all get trolled for no reason. All 3rd angles do, even if their characters made way more sense. Be it Vedika, Raima, Nishant or others.

Exactly!

In fact, what bothers me more is that everyone's arc should be about supporting the leads. Why should that be? Everyone is human there, everyone has different expectation! Leads aren't Gods that they should worship them! 🤗 🤗 🤗

BTW, can you tell me the name of a few GOOD projects of Ekta and Gul? 😳

Originally posted by: nushy1995

I can back it up a little because we all have this tendency that when we do something good and get appreciated, we say that we worked really hard. But it doesn't really mean I have to take all the limelight because there are so many people behind it and they work tirelessly to make it look real.

Don't kill me for saying this but this I have particularly seen to be done by some ITV actors and a few recent stars in my country. Otherwise, those who are termed legends in our country, I can't remember I have even seen either of them to brag about it. They were always like how they were taught by the elders and everything.

In American I have mostly seen actors giving credit to the writer and director because they are very particular about the end product and the actor absorbs it and then enact.

I would say, ITV actors, specially the young ones who enjoy massive following don't know how to keep their professionalism. Here, fans go overboard with the actors only and they themselves get too much of attitude. I wish the same credit was given to the people working behind the camera.

Yes, see they already enjoy the stardom, followers, so it won't kill you to give credits for people who deserve it.

Infact am going to hug you, cos even am done with these people. I have even seen a few taking credit of others fully and then making excuses. I and my friend had seen and lost all respect for one such popular actor too. Cos we actually saw the twitter handle, where person took credits, and writers roasted and how conveniently person changed and made a story.

Agree on legends, they don't and are mature, always give credits.

I have seen the same for regional.

Definitely agree and there are a very few popular and senior actors too, who did this. I feel they should know where to draw a line, and number of interviews and limelight they get should reduce, so you are brought back to reality. If you observe, side characters are quite normal, but leads often tend to brag, cos people give them attention.

Originally posted by: Madhura..

If you observe, side characters are quite normal, but leads often tend to brag, cos people give them attention.

I have noticed it. But then again, you never know. Like you used to say VSC was humble during JNDSD but became quite arrogant after Jinn's success. So it all depends on the tide. There are very few who know to keep their calm even when they are at the peak of their career. Ultimately, these are the people who shine and people remember them. 😊