Bhishma's pratigya - His decision to stick to his vow - Page 3

Originally posted by: sshirley

Hi I am new to this forum But I would like to join this discussion if you all don’t mind.

I actually believe the decision was taken impulsively by a very young immature Devrat who had only recently come to his father n Was new to a father-son relationship:

He simply thought- ok what will mk my father’s unhappiness go away?

Mrg to Satyavati

Ok so it’s my dharm to ensure the mrg happens. Hence the wow

Now talking of dharm if we take swadharm then yes he may have been right in taking the vow. But swadharm NEVER supersedes rajadharm. Acc to rajdharm, his vow was absolutely wrong

sticking to his vow:

again he should hv given precedence to rajdharm at various points as u all have already discussed

But (and it’s a v big BUT) there was a point where his vow shouldn’t hv mattered an ounce! That was when

Amba returned after being insulted by Shalva

no vow or dharm Is bigger than a woman’s honor

I believe he Should hv Married Amba

@red - Excellent! 👏I never considered this matter from this pov. This is indeed a valuable fact. From a psychological perspective, he never knew a father's love. When he met his father after almost 16-18 years (he must be in his 20s when he took the vow), he wanted to love him immensely and also to be loved by him. So, he would prove himself a worthy son by doing a great sacrifice for him which would make his father love him like anything.

@bold (in fact, the entire post) - Wow! This is brilliant. 👏Exactly my thoughts. Thanks for putting so clearly. 👍🏼

Amba incident was the beginning of a tragedy which was avoidable. He should have accepted her. One can't get away scot-free after rejecting a humiliated woman who was insulted because one brought her with oneself without asking her wish, much less permission.

Thank you so much sonnet. Glad you liked my post

Actually coming to think of it, in dishonouring a woman, he was not much less of a culprit than duryodhan.

Yes we can say that he wasn’t solely responsible for dishonouring Amba. Even Shalv was, since he claimed to love her, but for Shalv it became a matter of self respect.

But even in case of Draupadi’s dishonour, one can argue that dury/ karna/ Kauravas/Shakuni were not solely responsible. The greatest responsibility lay with Yudhisthir

Sorry if I went off track

Sorry if I hv offended Bhishma fans

Originally posted by: sshirley

Thank you so much sonnet. Glad you liked my post

Actually coming to think of it, in dishonouring a woman, he was not much less of a culprit than duryodhan.

Yes we can say that he wasn’t solely responsible for dishonouring Amba. Even Shalv was, since he claimed to love her, but for Shalv it became a matter of self respect.

But even in case of Draupadi’s dishonour, one can argue that dury/ karna/ Kauravas/Shakuni were not solely responsible. The greatest responsibility lay with Yudhisthir

Sorry if I went off track

Sorry if I hv offended Bhishma fans

You are welcome🤗

@bold - Totally with you. The biggest onus of Draupadi's insult is on Yudhishthira.