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Posted: 5 years ago

Originally posted by: Mimzy


You have expressed this beautifully Aishu.......smiley20

You know you are right, Abir doesn't follow his advises especially abt loving yourself. He thinks he isn't worth it. You know I would love to hear more about your thoughts about why he would think like that?

Is it because he thinks his happiness lies in making his family happy?? Is it because if he can make their wishes come true they will be happy and by default he will be happy too?? Is it because instead of finding the happiness in himself he is trying to find it in others??

Being a guide comes naturally to him because he tried to be a role model for his nanko. Tried to make him realise that he is not defined by his parents and should live life on his terms. Same like he did for Mishti. But when it comes to him, he always keeps his wishes on a back burner so that his family could have their happiness first.

Mishti's issues are altogether different but same. She might be burdened by ehsaan from maheshwari family, thinks she isn't worth the love from them. But she also has a fighting spirit which prevents her from totally giving up on her happiness, even for her family.

Its like she fights and he compromises. He can take any insult to his self for his family. Mishti also take all the insults but her nature always makes her fight back.

@ bold - You have explained it well. This is what I want Abir to realise. Even if he can take insults to self for family he can't expect Mishti to do the same. And you have worded it well....her fight will make him realise his worth. He will understand that the way he is treated will also be a reflection of how Mishti will be treated in future.

Mishti realised the same when Kuhu started calling her a freeloader in effect calling Abir a freeloader. She realised by putting up with all of Kuhu's insults she was disrespecting herself. But now her insult will also be Abir's insult which she is not be able to bear, even if he can.

Its funny that Kunal who was the most immature of them all realised this fact, when the other 3 couldn't understand this simple fact. His conversation with Kuhu and Abir was gold, which makes us realise he is not as oblivious or immature as it seems.


The question is ....he can compromise for the sake of family.....but will he be able to tolerate Mishti compromising for him at every turn??

Will he realise he is being unfair to himself and Mishti by making her think he is right and she is wrong?? Or will Mishti make him realise sometimes cracks cannot be closed by a band aid......You need to cut the wound open and treat it??

Will they make each other realise they need to listen and understand each other first. BM gave a golden advise today. Basically, what she said was when both of them are angry one should listen first. And when the other person cools down, she can make him listen. Then they will come to an understanding and fights will not occur.


First of all thank you Mini! I loved your post! The thing here though is that neither one of them are completely wrong, nor are they both equally correct.


Abir's band-aid comes at a cost of his self respect, and Mishti's surgery (Deepa's brilliant word) comes at a cost sometimes the blameless to be blamed. The thing is they need to balance their viewpoints and how Badimaa said it, listen to each other. Mishti has identified Kuhu as a potential threat, and is trying to warn Abir but he sees Meenakshi pull the strings and doesn't care. Because of Meenu's dominant personality one person has to mellow down, and Abir takes it by leaving the house while most of the family sides with Meenu even if he brings up a valid point. I think this is the root cause of his self depreciation, his voice is the only one ringing for them all but no one not even Nanu at times is willing to support him at the cost of Meenu. It is sad that he feels that his family is better off without him, and leaves. But when he tried to move out they stopped him, I think it is very mixed signals. See he has reached a point where no one wants to support him, remember the baba track when his father basically went and got his marriage fixed, not one person was happy for him. Nanu later on agrees, but at that time he himself is mad. He found his self worth in that household by helping others and not expecting much in return which has unfortunately caused him to do the same outside of his household. Many people realize this and help and accept him, but like Kunal said many others try and take advantage of that. Everyone is in praises of Kunal today, but I think this is the actual Kunal. If you think about it, in the beginning Abir keeps saying that Kunal was not like this, the one year with Meenu one-on-one had changed him. I thought he was making excuses at that time, but now I think Abir was right, Kunal wasn't so selfish. And as much as we hate Kuhu right now, she has shown him the mirror of his actions and has been scarred by his actions.


I can't believe I am defending Kuhu, but yes she has always been like this. She is spoiled, but she is also hurt. Just like Mishti, for some time in her life, she wasn't accepted by her own father. (P.S I didn't watch parent show so please correct me if I am wrong, I just saw some scenes.) When she is accepted by her family, in her mind, they are "stolen" by Mishti. None of it is true, but in her mind that is what she thinks. She has made up that all the problems were caused by Mishti and has never been checked by her family, rather they fanned it! And that has festered into an ugly mindset that is affecting her love life, as well as Mishti's. Because Kunal had fooled her once because of Mishti, she is afraid it may happen again, and is trying to get rid of her before that. But in this process she is not realizing that she is distancing herself from Kunal. Due to the distance, she is angry again, and blames Mishti, it is a pretty vicious cycle. It is crazy how insecure all these characters are, I think it is what makes them all real, and makes us so frustrated or attached to them.

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Posted: 5 years ago

I think kunal and abir fight will happen because of illegmate issue and mom not because of money...

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Posted: 5 years ago

Originally posted by: Gaurirane366

I think kunal and abir fight will happen because of illegmate issue and mom not because of money...


I think it will be both, I don't think they will say the money aspect but someone will.

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Posted: 5 years ago

Originally posted by: Onyourface

Oh oh oh oh , this episode was a total surprise for me , mujhe aisa pata hi nahi tha ki aisa ho jayega ....smiley42smiley42. Aisa kaise ho gaya , sab settle kaise hone laga ....

**** I mmm a joking ****

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After a long time , an episode that kept me hooked till the very end smiley16 Would say an open ended closure before the break giving lots of hope and positivity today smiley31smiley31smiley31

1. Coming to AM's fight, another time where I felt that their core characteristics are now working against each other in full speed .... it's more like dono ke sabra ka baandh toot gaya hai smiley36 .... mishti was concentrating on the freeloader statement and knowing kuhu, she very well knows where the statement will go , she wasn't completely wrong because in the next set of scenes we did see kuhu making angoor ka water melon as in rai ka pahaad as in free loader statement is going to get converted into full time business politics *** meenu ji aane vale din aapki property ke liye khatarnak hai ...*** putting all the kaala teeka ⚫.....abir was concentrating from meenu's side making mishti realise that she is just being used by meenu and it's so simple, tumhare shoulder pe rakh ke gun chala rahi hai meenu smiley44 in the process abir made those statements that makes mishti disturbed, ohho abir you want to save mishti from home breaker tag, ab tum khud hi use karoge toh kaise chalega smiley44 .... I know mishti misinterpreted it , but she wasn't wrong in doing so , first comparing it with meenu , then saying see how meenu breaks the family then saying she has a messed up relationship with kuhu, obviously back to back aise statements ayenge toh koi bhi bura manega hi smiley24

2. Vaise I wonder did they fight the whole night? smiley37 Cuz jaate jaate toh subah ho gayi smiley14 So they were all okay leaving at morning, toh raat ko jhagad hi kyun rahe the smiley36smiley36 jab morning mein nikalna okay tha smiley36.... uffff

3. Varsha will also join the angoor pe kharcha gang now smiley14

4. One scene that stood out was...the car scene, haaye the way abir portrayed his dard , those tears, attempt to wash his face ....he wants to solve everything but he is himself messed up right now , probably he wants mishti to be his supporter and not someone who goes against him, I felt really sad for mishti in the end, poor girl was just missing abir.... ufff these two . In dono ka kya karun 😆

5. FINALLY The intensity shot from Aiber aka Moral science teacher 👏👏👏👏 now let's see if kuhu introspects or goes into mishti ki wajah se mode again

6. Oooo nanko is the ⭐️ Of the day 🥳🥳🥳 Vaise they didn't show us mishti kunal scene but its okay apna satellite sab khud jaan lets hai 😳 Today he became the guide that abir rightfully needed ❤️ Also I loved that how he made things clear to kuhu that "money" and " company " was never an issue between him and abir, there is a mutual understanding between them that runs in the relationship, however I have a feeling that with increasing troubles , this issue may be brought up again ...

7. Lastly badi maa ❤️ With just 2 sentences she noticed the crux of AM fight 😆 And mishti also understood it in a second ....all she has to do is calmly handle the situation, anger won't take AM anywhere



Again I see internal families being formed in a big joint family, all I can say is all the best meenu 🤣


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I know 21 days is a big lockdown and looking at the current scenario , the period may increase too , all I want to say is take the rules seriously, don't do something that may cost a life, take care , maintain highest levels of hygiene, respect those who are working for our safety and pray for the betterment of the world 😳 spend the wonderful time with your wonderful family ( tedi hai lekin family toh apni hai na 😉😃❤️)


Stay calm, stay positive, stay healthy !

Wowww..ushi benn. 🤗😆

Loved ur analysis..i agree on everything u say👍🏼


Soo true tedhi hai but apni hai family😆 my family is already lill pareshaan from me in these 3-4 dsys. God knows ab aage kaise jhelenge muje😆🤣😛😛

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Posted: 5 years ago

Originally posted by: Aishu13


I think it will be both, I don't think they will say the money aspect but someone will.

kuhu might ...

Frankly I feel meenu will get to know about this freeloaders issue...

She will taunt kuhu in front of mah family where she will tell them this is what you taught your girl and many more think...

Kuhu will feel mishti told mennu about this....

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Posted: 5 years ago

Originally posted by: Aishu13


First of all thank you Mini! I loved your post! The thing here though is that neither one of them are completely wrong, nor are they both equally correct.


Abir's band-aid comes at a cost of his self respect, and Mishti's surgery (Deepa's brilliant word) comes at a cost sometimes the blameless to be blamed. The thing is they need to balance their viewpoints and how Badimaa said it, listen to each other. Mishti has identified Kuhu as a potential threat, and is trying to warn Abir but he sees Meenakshi pull the strings and doesn't care. Because of Meenu's dominant personality one person has to mellow down, and Abir takes it by leaving the house while most of the family sides with Meenu even if he brings up a valid point. I think this is the root cause of his self depreciation, his voice is the only one ringing for them all but no one not even Nanu at times is willing to support him at the cost of Meenu. It is sad that he feels that his family is better off without him, and leaves. But when he tried to move out they stopped him, I think it is very mixed signals. See he has reached a point where no one wants to support him, remember the baba track when his father basically went and got his marriage fixed, not one person was happy for him. Nanu later on agrees, but at that time he himself is mad. He found his self worth in that household by helping others and not expecting much in return which has unfortunately caused him to do the same outside of his household. Many people realize this and help and accept him, but like Kunal said many others try and take advantage of that. Everyone is in praises of Kunal today, but I think this is the actual Kunal. If you think about it, in the beginning Abir keeps saying that Kunal was not like this, the one year with Meenu one-on-one had changed him. I thought he was making excuses at that time, but now I think Abir was right, Kunal wasn't so selfish. And as much as we hate Kuhu right now, she has shown him the mirror of his actions and has been scarred by his actions.


I can't believe I am defending Kuhu, but yes she has always been like this. She is spoiled, but she is also hurt. Just like Mishti, for some time in her life, she wasn't accepted by her own father. (P.S I didn't watch parent show so please correct me if I am wrong, I just saw some scenes.) When she is accepted by her family, in her mind, they are "stolen" by Mishti. None of it is true, but in her mind that is what she thinks. She has made up that all the problems were caused by Mishti and has never been checked by her family, rather they fanned it! And that has festered into an ugly mindset that is affecting her love life, as well as Mishti's. Because Kunal had fooled her once because of Mishti, she is afraid it may happen again, and is trying to get rid of her before that. But in this process she is not realizing that she is distancing herself from Kunal. Due to the distance, she is angry again, and blames Mishti, it is a pretty vicious cycle. It is crazy how insecure all these characters are, I think it is what makes them all real, and makes us so frustrated or attached to them.

aishu... kuhu satyed in MAH for 10-12 years with out mishti and they accepted kuhu whole heartedly and for me morethan nannu and ananya...kuhu pampered more... and coming to to mishti entering their lives and taking lime light is not in a day or one incident... jas is constant in her mooh bholi word and instagted kuhu towards mishti..


jas ki baat ananya aur uska kud beta hi nahi sunta... so she used kuhu from childhood... she never liked kuhu too but she is blood related so her hatered for kuhu is less than mishti...

Edited by ruhi19 - 5 years ago
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Posted: 5 years ago

Hiiii

Today's episode was good... Felt relieved after watching today's episode....aaj tho mujhe chain kii neend aayegi..... Tomorrow is Shaheer Sheikh ka Birthday 😘😍😘😍.... Hope we all get to see something nice about him ..... Not Ikigai plz.🙏

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Ok. watched the episode just now...what an episode..i loved it.👍🏼👏


I loved how abir gave subtle shots to kuhualong eith kunal.. i loved every scene.. Mish is right. i can see her dialogues becoming reality..kuhu mish fights can bring tiffs between the brothers.. or kuhu can do something else which will directly indirectly effect mishbir and specially mishti


I just wished Mishti had not been left alone. He literally LEFT her in anger..matlab kyaa even though he realised his mistake but why everytime they need someone to Samjhao them... itne me to second person pura toot jaye.. it really hurt to see her crying.. She only knows abir left her. He switched off his phone..avoiding mish.. i felt hurt when she said i need u abir.. There is only one person who she can call hers.. nd suppose if wo bhi chala gaya chodker ya nahi mila to she wld take some drastic step or hurt herself.

Abir unknowingly hurting mish and mish already being delicate, hearing same words again and again from abir, is hurting herself and then later abir regretting nd apologising..aise hi chalta rha to wo din dur nahi when mish will really break down..😔 I just hope this was the last fight of mishbir due to kuhu..And mature hone ka thaika ab kuhu bhi le le

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Originally posted by: piyasingh

Ok. watched the episode just now...what an episode..i loved it.👍🏼👏


I loved how abir gave subtle shots to kuhualong eith kunal.. i loved every scene.. Mish is right. i can see her dialogues becoming reality..kuhu mish fights can bring tiffs between the brothers.. or kuhu can do something else which will directly indirectly effect mishbir and specially mishti


I just wished Mishti had not been left alone. He literally left her, even though he realised his mistake but why everytime they need someone to samjhao them... itne me to second person pura toot jaye.. it really hurt to see her crying.. She only knows abir left her. He switched off his phone..avoiding mish.. i felt hurt when she said i need u abir.. There is only one person who she can call hers.. nd suppose if wo bhi chala gaya chodker ya nahi mila to she wld take some drastic step or hurt herself.

Abir unknowingly hurting mish and mish already being delicate, hearing same words again and again from abir, is hurting herself and then later abir regretting nd apologising..aise hi chalta rha to wo din dur nahi when mish will really break down..😔 I just hope this was the last fight of mishbir due to kuhu..And mature hone ka thaika ab kuhu bhi le le

piya...this more about mishti's break down than kuhu's insecurities...

we will see mishti broken from all sides and from all of them...


this fight wont end but temporary band aid will come to rescue...


mishti ke saat dhamaka tho hoga... then only abir will realise and they become un breakable bond...

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Originally posted by: ruhi19

aishu... kuhu satyed in MAH for 10-12 years with out mishti and they accepted kuhu whole heartedly and for me morethan nannu and ananya...kuhu pampered more... a nd coming to to mishti entering their lives and taking lime light is not in a day or one incident... jas is constant in her mooh bholi word and instagted kuhu towards mishti..


jas ki baat ananya aur uska kud beta hi nahi sunta... so she sued kuhu from childhood... she never liked kuhu too but she is blood related so her hatered for kuhu is less than mishti...

Ruhi,

@bold this is what i wanted to ask you when you said you're watching PS to analyse Mishti and kuhu dynamics.

I had a hunch that Jas wouldn't have like kuhu too because she has got the only heir of the Mah's...Ananya tho girl hain....So my guess is right when kuhu has been accepted by Mah's she would have been think of money and property getting divided and then Mishti entered so she used Kuhu to get rid of Mishti little did she know Mishti is a felix. It is all money...

LIkewise in RVs it is nidhi maami who is behind property and money. She will be the one to call kunal illigeminate and all. At the end of the day, even ABir doesn't have rights on those properties. I think we will be shown about Abir's financial status and about what he does for living because he doesn't manage any of the RV companies. So at that point Kunal and kuhu will be called as freeloaders.

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