Rhea-Shaheer|MishBir|AT: 75| DT Note Pg 120 - Page 118

Originally posted by: Agrata23

Guys Mods replied me and they have opened the frustration thread..we can pour our frustration regarding any character😃

https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/yeh-rishtey-hai-pyaar-ke/5155292/yrhpk-frustration-thread-1-dt-note-pg-4

Oh wowwww geethu.. 👍🏼👏

Originally posted by: Npdeepa

Aisa nahi hai yaar...

see there is a tiny line between trust and believe. Believe is just a thought which could change due to circumtances like Mishti didn't tell about the baba truth when she met him on the night of their GD thinking that atleast now Abir is reconcile with his mother being lost his father already. Likewise, being a foster child, when abir understood her when she said i can't lose my family and my BFF nannu...he decided not to tell her about Nish and that is why he didn't make a deal of nish not saving him from the accident because Mishti was present there. And he know she will be broken into pieces.

where trust is complete faith which doesn't change what may come...MishBir trust each other.... However, they need to alter their belief about hiding things from eachother will actually save them from pain but they should understand it will eventually hurt them badly...no separation will happen atleast for another 6 months...but all this will lead to a MisBir living seperately but mostly in Mah's house...

Moni.....I loved how u explained belief and trust.👍🏼

They both trust each other, but their belief is preventing them to confide in each other completely.

I am confused on how long they will go about hiding things from each other to save the other from pain?? I mean they made their mistakes before and paid the price, but still they keep on doing the same thing.

They somehow take up parenting roles with each other. Parents are supposed to be the ones who protect, life partners are supposed to stand beside you when pain hits, not prevent you from facing anything.

Originally posted by: LetThereBeLight

Actually Abir didnt share bcoz it was needed but bcoz parul maasi n kunal said it was mishti haq to know the truth... else he would've never said that also...

i agree abir would've done same as mishti in baba track he proved it in nish matter same way mish would do the same if she was in abir place during break up.. mish was not bashed but held responsible too... both knew truth but didnt share it with eo n that came to hit them not once but twice... break up n then the MU...

abir atleast share things anything but mish never shared anything not even a small detail,,... and that lands up her n even abir in problem... abir finds alternative but mish is impulsive n she doesnt even realize her mistake thats the problem...

abir is atleast learning something from past mistake he is not babysitting kunal, he is including mish in whatever decision he makes, he shares his confusion with mish n also now gets advice from bp, during nish track his entire family was by his side he actively involved everyone, he still doesnt trust meenu,... mish needs to take a step forward to atleast share her worries..

this is not only mish problem entire mah house has this... how much ever they show them as white they are not like that n how much ever black rjv is shown they are not... both family is grey but rjv is progressive every persons truth is bought out in front of family be it meenu, kunal or abir n family reprimand, support n guide n they improve themselves... mah family i cant say the same...

lol even in real life everyone hide things but there is way to handle things here their love for each other n abirs understanding n blind trust is the only thing holding their relationship.. 😆 and lack of trust n understand even with amazing communication can lead to break up... 😆 everything needs to be balanced...

Spot on diya 👏 I so agree ....💯🥳

Haan parul and kunal made him realise that he should share the truth ...in his mind he was thinking that he shouldn't be giving any justification for his behaviour but he didn't realise that it also takes away mishti's haq to know the truth

Bold - yes absolutely that's the basic difference here ...abir realised it that its wrong hence he is sharing every detail with mishti now but mishti hasn't realised that it's not right to hide things...its not always necessary to fight thr battles on your own just because you want to protect your loved ones....she is again back to square one...a girl who struggles to differentiate between pyaar and ehsaan

Italics - I so agree with this too ..mahs are afraid of calling out the elephant in the room 😆 But rvs are so different that ways ...they have huge confrontations that too openly not behind closed doors ...whatever differences abir meenu have or abir kunal had were all out in the open ...I guess this new changed atmosphere will bring many changes in the dynamics between the relationships

Bold - agreed 👍🏼 That's how it is

Originally posted by: LetThereBeLight

Ruhi this is the main problem for mish they make it as situational... i wont blame mish alone here as whatever mish does however contrived her ways are everyone including abir encourages her n never says what she did was mistake even if her intentions are right... someone need to guide her properly and i believe only abir can do that...

you know i hates the moment when mish looked at ambe maa while promising to abir that she wont hide things... it was not a direct promise... it was contrived... why cant the makers make mish learn from her mistake...

i cant blame mishbir any situation yar... i want them to share everything with eo... at the end of the day only wife - husband relation will be there... all relation will play a part but can never become life...

a wife and husband may fill all realtions but never ever any relation will wife and husband relation... the relation between husband and wife is more into eo in ways of expecting, adjusting, trusting and everything...

i hope these two learn this fact and gives us a new couple goals...

if they keep away things from eo it will only hurt them and it will lead to MU's and break up... im not saying they should immediately after incident but they should share it even everything is solved...

mishbir give major couple goals but they should have to learn more... as this relation will be stayed till death make them apart...

Originally posted by: Mimzy

That's the thing diyaaa.....if parul massi and kunal hadn't told him its her haq .....he wouldn't have told her and she wouldn't have come back to him easily.......

Their breakup was the most contrived drama in the show.I hated that track. I read many comments in twitter claiming she should apologize for lying ,she is responsible for the breakup, if she had communicated it wouldn't have happened etc etc. But its all just our assumptions on what would have happened. Ultimately Abir took the decision himself. But he learnt from his mistake and he includes her in decisions pertaining to each other. But he still doesn't share what needs to be shared.

Mishti's secreacy is more contrived drama ..for example she tries to share everything with Abir the moment she gets to know the truth, but her luck is bad......baba picks up the phone, likewise after that Meenu intercepts her and after that Kunal. But when things settle, her desire to share the truth takes a back seat and she doesn't want to take any credit,which is her main problem.

Even Abir also during Kuku marriage and Nishant track, he was shown wanting to share the truth. Exactly like Mishti when things settle his desire to share the truth become null and his need to protect takes over.

The thing is I dnt mind them not sharing things with anyone else....but they should with each other, even the small things...because they are supposed to be best friends and life partners.

Here Abir is mildly comfortable to share with Parul massi , Kunal and Naanu whoever is available. Mishti is shown to share somethings with BM. But my question is why them?? Why not with each other??

Their families are weirdly depicted. The Maheshwari's brush everything inder the carpet. You know Kuhu's dialogue preleap completely defines them.....A daughter will have freedom as long as it doesn't go against their family's welfare. Mishti and Kuhu are best examples regarding that. They like to pretend everything is perfect but it is not so. They fail to support their children when they need them the most and try to do so only when everything falls apart or their kids fall apart.

RJV's problems are mostly because they are not perceptive of what each of their family members need and wherein lies their true happiness. But when they realize they actually support each other.

@bold - Exactly Diyaa......their love and trust on each other and Abir's understanding of Mishti or more likely Meenu😆is holding them together. If they didn't have it they would have fell apart without any communication......as u said u need a balance. You can't take yout love and trust for granted which they did before. You need to work to make your relationship work.

So agree with this 💯

Originally posted by: LetThereBeLight

😭 i miss all those days now.. light hearted, simple. and mainly or meenu n her kajal 😆

Meenu and her kajal are still intact 🤣 Baaki sab badal Gaye

Originally posted by: piyasingh

Oh wowwww geethu.. 👍🏼👏

@Geethu😆 You actually made them to make a new thread......I am impressed....👍🏼

BTW everyone you have to vent your frustration in a civilized way. No mocking of the characters......I am wrking on that.😆

Originally posted by: Mimzy

Moni.....I loved how u explained belief and trust.👍🏼

They both trust each other, but their belief is preventing them to confide in each other completely.

I am confused on how long they will go about hiding things from each other to save the other from pain?? I mean they made their mistakes before and paid the price, but still they keep on doing the same thing.

They somehow take up parenting roles with each other. Parents are supposed to be the ones who protect, life partners are supposed to stand beside you when pain hits, not prevent you from facing anything.

B: 100% agreed...

life partners part to share and care...

but in mishbir prevention is also because of their parents... a child grows seeing their parents only and we know how are our mishbir parents so in their case they took prevention first seat and share and care at 2nd point...

Originally posted by: Onyourface

Hmm moni I don't deny what you are saying because yes meenu's and abir's thoughts about how a bahu and wife should be are poles apart ...so yes this difference of opinion can be a reason but there is so much more to it

I think thoda differently here , it wasn't like abir didn't want to fall in love or get married or anything...its just at that point of time his mind was preoccupied with so many things that the idea of marriage or love didnt really kick in

A lot of people talk about mishti's abandonment issues but I believe that abir's abandonment issues were no less , just because he is capable of hiding his pain through his smile and positivity and his happy go lucky attitude ....that dosent mean he wasn't suffering

A 5 year old kid who was very emotionally attached to his baba and the one who really believed baba's life philosophy... he suddenly realised that his baba left him with so many unanswered questions...like one day bas gayab hi ho gaye

There was a flashback scene where abir is asking meenu that where is baba and she slaps him in return ...so I believe a lot of times abir must have asked naanu koslu and meenu about baba but none of them addressed his queries ...and meenu used to come up with her famous 2 lines - tumhare baba ache insaan nahi the aur Hume chod ke chale gaye ....nothing more nothing less .... so I guess after a point of time when we grew up , he took him upon himself to find answers to all these questions

It was very clean that sub consciously he was missing his baba all the time , in so many of his self talks we have seen him saying - baba yahan hote toh aisa nahi hota ....baat itni bigadti nahi n all ..he developed that champaner school because it was baba's dream and also if you noticed there was a seen between meenu and laxman where he informs her that abir got a clue that baba is in Kutch ....so connecting that with his kutch trip I believe he didn't go to kutch just to attend kutch Utsav but was actually looking out for baba ...the reason he didnt inform anyone was because no one in rv house was really keen to find baba and it was useless to explain then ...so haan I believe the thought to find his answers through baba pre occupied his mind for many years ... so it was absolutely wonderful to see that somehow mishti was the one who gave him all the answers , whether its bringing baba in his life or indirectly exposing his truth ...some may say that mishti brings stability in his life ....yes I absolutely agree but the main reason for his stability is that he found his answers, answers that he was looking out for so many years

Coming to kunal...well there is a back story here too ...kunal was left by shwet on his engagement day that too without a reason ...I believe this incident must have made him go into a sad state where he stopped sharing his emotions with anyone ...meenu kept him busy with all the business work ...but that just helped him hide the pain and not really heal it and I believe abir noticed that ....the reason he wanted kunal to get married was only because he felt that the presence of a girl would help him come out of the robot zone ...kunal would share his emotional feelings with someone and that would make him feel better ....that's all ...he wasn't pressuring kunal for marriage but haan he wanted a friend for kunal who could understand him

I also feel that abir also wanted to fall in love in an organic way , not only mishti , he also believed in the idea of courtship and that's why he strongly supported her when she wanted to go for it ...he is just not arrange marriage material that ways and there were many things that played a role for him not thinking about marriage 😳 all I want to say is that I feel that it wasn't that he didn't want to get married or anything but I believe he never really thought about it because of many pre occupied thoughts...

Sorry jazbaat mein kuch zyada leekh daala🤣

Sunday hai na 😆

Wow wow Uru amazing post yaar 👏👏

you just explained abirs issue n also his reason for not thinking of shaadi very welll.... he even said in starting that shaadi is not a solution for all problem but he wants to bring kunal out of this robotic mode n make him enjoy life... then naanu suggested that what if a girl can make this happen n wanted kunal to give it a chance... thats how abir too agreed to this idea n after seeing kuhu n her personality he immediately guessed she is the one who can bring color to his life...

coming to abirs abundance issue actually i wanted to make a post n discuss on this but then you gave a perfect start... Did you feel the convo between mishbir after shaadi when he asked promise to mish a little more deep than it actually was shown... read some tweets too on this n after watching it sometimes i totally get it... Abir was surrounded by people who lied to him, betrayed him and his dialogue to naanu should i get happy it was not maa but brother who betrayed me this time, whenever one is ready to hold my hand the other is ready to pull me back down... he is hurt with mishti hiding things n managing things on own not only for himself but for her safety he wants mish to share things with him... he is finally fed up of all this, not mish hiding but others using it against them... he is scared of meenu or anyone using even a small truth against them... the breakup has made a big impact on him... he has overcome his abundance issue but is now scared to trust anyone, he is living with the fear of who wil use what truth to create problem.. mish have fear of people leaving her, now abir have fear of betray n trust issue.. he even said about nannu whomever me or mish trust why is it always they betray our trust first baba now nannu...

Originally posted by: LetThereBeLight

argg even i'm missing it still hoping for it to return yaar... even though they looks hawt n cute now but zulfein n chashma are a part of them... missing it so much...😭😭 they look so simple n mainly the connect was there now i'm loosing it badly.. 😭

Count me in🙋.....I am missing the lambe baal and chasma and their simplicity. Mainly I miss the connection.

Lol....i am missing abir's lambe baal more than mish's chasma. For me it added to Abir's personality.....free bird softie...😆I dunno u somehow randomly feels love for him in his long locks.....🤗