For Sana fans only ! - Page 5

Originally posted by: BaylorBee

I have mixed views on this subject.

I know that sidnaaz is toxic, more for Shehnaaz than Shukla. The power dynamics are severely skewed and anybody with a tiny bit of critical thinking can see that she is being used, abused and discarded as per convenience.

But there are so many others who like watching the same and boast about the chemistry between the two. Not just fans but also celebrities who have entered the show, or tweeted about it.

Then for a girl, who has had a conservative upbringing in a remote village with limited access to modern ideologies, it would not seem abnormal. You need better role models or examples to discern what is right and what is beyond wrong. The way she talks about her mother, and ofcourse the stud father, I don't think she has had the same.

My point is, that if people cannot tell the difference while watching a 1 hour snippet, of what a good relationship looks like, then how do we expect the same from sana who is in fact living that life?

As for self respect-it is developed. And it works differently in different scenarios. I might take offense if someone who is supposed to be my partner calls me things, and not when an outsider does. Or it might be the opposite. Maybe I dont like listening to a friend insulting my intelligence, but tolerate it when a close relation does.

Asking Sana to behave in a certain manner would be akin to imposing our expectations on her.

I am not really a fan, but I've started sympathising with her recently. Sidnaaz is not her fault, it's the channel's. Her fault is that she is playing into their wily little schemes of creating a romance angle when it's anything but that!

Another brilliant post from you and such a nuanced take especially from a non fan.

Sana is a good soul with forgiving nature. She follows her heart and doesn’t comes into bhedchaal which made her look a flipper. She has been continuously used by Shukla and she was thrown under the bus by him after knowing her popularity. She is in a toxic relationship but looks like she saw that type of relationship in the past and she thinks it’s normal. I really wish that she comes out of this Shukla madness without any scratch.

Originally posted by: dahibhalle

I used to think like you and then my thinking changed- it's like you know people who are in physically abusive relationships and you see them staying on in those relationships even when they know it's dangerous to be in those relationships and it gets frustrating but you have to realise not everyone's made the same way and these people just need to know that there is support for them regardless.

I am neither Sana or Sid fan.

Any form of abuse, physical, sexual, emotional or financial is an abuse. Unfortunately both Sana and Sid are in this loop, they are not breaking for whatever reason it is - be it the game, be it their core personality.

This loop can only be broken by the person in question, only when they are ready. Meanwhile they keep going to the person, even though their higher mental abilities may state the contrary to what they are doing.

Sid plays the role of abuser aptly, so does Sana.

Calm -> tension building -> incident -> reconciliation-> calm ->

The loop keeps cycling. Somewhere there is love/connection, societal (here game) pressures, blame, possessiveness, verbal/physical aggression etc

Originally posted by: Rosalinesak

Sana is a good soul with forgiving nature. She follows her heart and doesn’t comes into bhedchaal which made her look a flipper. She has been continuously used by Shukla and she was thrown under the bus by him after knowing her popularity. She is in a toxic relationship but looks like she saw that type of relationship in the past and she thinks it’s normal. I really wish that she comes out of this Shukla madness without any scratch.

I agree. Sana has many gud qualities. She is nice to people in general and doesn't believe in team dynamics and even speaks nicely.

For her sake I wish she sees the reality once she is out or all else all the best to her if she chooses this relationship over everything else.

Originally posted by: SP2684

I’m not a San fan - there’s plenty about her I dislike. But I also find some about her that’s likable. Her behaviour with Shukla - her entire equation with him - is not likable in the least. And even if she were entirely unlikable, I’d still feel awful at how she allows herself to be treated.

I can empathize with the fact that she may have had a difficult childhood that’s conditioned her somewhat, that BB and it’s entire universe have made her game entirely about Shukla. But this is to an extent. There is always the element of choice - particularly when Sana often comes across as rather urbane and quite the rebel. I don’t believe she absolutely cannot make the choice to not tolerate such behavioir towards her. But she chooses to crawl back to that man time and again regardless. Given this, and my own mindset and view, a lack of self-respect of this magnitude - is almost impossible for me to empathize with.

Yesterday was the worst - I stopped watching the show ages ago, but I watched this bit yesterday, because it would be unfair to opine blindly - and what I saw revolted me. He treated her worse than he ever has on this show - said the most vile trash to her - and she nonetheless crawled back to him and pampered him.

Having seen that - I hope, truly hope that she is a complete fake - that this is entirely for the game - and that she’d never ever tolerate even 1% of this outside this house. For her sake - I truly hope that.

@ bold : This is exactly what I hv been saying too. There is always a choice. It might be difficult , it might take all dt you hv to take dt decision......but you can make a different choice no matter what.

Same for me....given my upbringing and mentality.....even though I try to understand where Sana is coming from I can't put up wid the lack of any sort of self respect in any human being.

@ red : Same here. I wish Sana comes out if whatever this thing is. It will do her good only. She is talented and can make a name for herself widout putting up wid so much .

Sana told Sid "you used and threw me" that's when Sid called her "gand" Both are wrong and than Sana was saying why you are giving me sympathy by uttering such words? You are looking bad. She is not giving up on him don't know why but she is not someone who will invest so much in one sided relationship/friendship. If Sid verbally abused her she also verbally abused him. Which is wrong and make their so called attachment appear toxic to many. I like Sid and Sana with/without Sidnaaz. Like them individually more than Sidnaaz infact liked Sid, Asim, Rashmi and Sana individually. Somewhere couldn't dislike Sana for her antics as she has been under radar a lot many times. She is the one given most of the advises. She is the one who was termed disloyal friend, bin painde la lota, someone without backbone (just because she flipped and played for Asim's team). She was told that she never stood by Sid than an entirely opposite story is "you don't have self-respect" On one side people want her to respect herself and go against Sid, on other side people want her to be by Sid's side till he wins the trophy third group call her flirt and character assassinates her.

If she fought with her attachments and spoke equally bad words for her she settled her scores. She got mixed feedback and its difficult to understand what to follow and what's right/wrong. Though right is clear and simple. Don't let yourself be treated that way but than if she doesn't she will again be character assassinated by bringing in how she flirted with Paras, Gautam, Kartik and emotionally attached to Sid can even have another guy etc.

Originally posted by: Nachiketj

Suyaash Rai Kishwer's husband who knows her since they both come from Punjabi singing fraternity says she is like that only. She isn't fake. She had shared with him that she was scared of Himanshi controversy cropping up when she goes in BB.

Originally posted by: BaylorBee

I have mixed views on this subject.

I know that sidnaaz is toxic, more for Shehnaaz than Shukla. The power dynamics are severely skewed and anybody with a tiny bit of critical thinking can see that she is being used, abused and discarded as per convenience.

But there are so many others who like watching the same and boast about the chemistry between the two. Not just fans but also celebrities who have entered the show, or tweeted about it.

Then for a girl, who has had a conservative upbringing in a remote village with limited access to modern ideologies, it would not seem abnormal. You need better role models or examples to discern what is right and what is beyond wrong. The way she talks about her mother, and ofcourse the stud father, I don't think she has had the same.

My point is, that if people cannot tell the difference while watching a 1 hour snippet, of what a good relationship looks like, then how do we expect the same from sana who is in fact living that life?

As for self respect-it is developed. And it works differently in different scenarios. I might take offense if someone who is supposed to be my partner calls me things, and not when an outsider does. Or it might be the opposite. Maybe I dont like listening to a friend insulting my intelligence, but tolerate it when a close relation does.

Asking Sana to behave in a certain manner would be akin to imposing our expectations on her.

I am not really a fan, but I've started sympathising with her recently. Sidnaaz is not her fault, it's the channel's. Her fault is that she is playing into their wily little schemes of creating a romance angle when it's anything but that!

Very well put.

Ok so you are saying when people outside are divided on Sidnaaz den how can the person living it be sure of what's wrong and what's ryt. Ok. But these people outside are also individuals who aren't divided in their individual opinions. Same way Sana as a individual must be having an opinion on the whole thing.

About having a proper role model.....I guess you are right dt she probably never had a gud role model in real life. But even inside the house their are girls who may not be perfect but are still holding on to their integrity. Perhaps she could learn a thing or two from dem too over these 4 months. Infact even outside the house she follows movie stars like many of us.....and a lot of them are inspiring......but again it's matter of choice.....it's whom you choose to be inspired from.

What you said about self respect..........I get ur point. Understood. But still after understanding everything ......I feel der should be a limit to how much you tolerate from a person.

I too sympathise wid Sana but the recent events hv made me lose my empathy for her.

Shehnaaz went on a journey from I want to entertain to I wanna win this show ... from a child to a mature woman ...

I loved her in all her fury and beauty .. when she cried I cried too

When she was happy I was too

Sana is an emotion to most of her fans ...

The smiling girl hiding so many emotions ...

She fell in love in the most harsh environment (bb house .. that too this season) her personal life questioned ... her character questioned ... and what not it made us fall in love with her more and more ... the fact she still keeps her head high after all this ..

I am a sidnaaz fan and a sana fan too ...

And I started loving her more and more after love ... please dont call sidnaaz a thing . This is a request cause maybe you guys see it in diff eyes and we see it in diff ways ... and yes I do have reason why I started loving her more after this ... but if I say will my POV will actually thought about ?

I have started to watch bb13 because of her. Still watching for her. For me she is one of the best contestant in bb history