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Posted: 5 years ago

Originally posted by: yrhpk_aus

Just copy pasting from LU: my 2 cents on Nish and Vatsal😊

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Here it goes...

Before watching Tuesday and Wednesday haldi episodes, I had read lots of comments over social media against Nishant and Vatsal's acting. Here's a few things I will like to point out in disagreement:

disclaimer: Ofcourse, I do not agree with Nannu's behaviour and goal to win Mish and defeat Abir. I too believe that this nishmish rishta is wrong on many levels, but there is substance and decent depth to Nishant's character that gives him the space to slide into the grey negative side.


  • Nishant is not equal to monster Meenu. He does not have unnecessary hatred against one character. He doesn't emotionally control and threat his loved ones. He is simply very insecure, troubled and confused being who has lost his mind and ability to think straight due to his deep psychological issues. Unlike Baba's sudden negative flip; The makers have gradually and nicely built up Nishant's background as an ex-alcohol addict, who still has struggles with overcoming his guilt. recovering addicts take very long to be confident to say that they are completely free of addiction and have strong control on themselves to not fall back into relapse. Nishant is still very much in the process of recovering and very susceptible to his weakness of alcohol. On top this, he has deep anxiety issues linked with his guilt from childhood towards mah family (lower degree of ehsaan than Mishti has).
  • This is where I have to give credit to Meenu and her clever attacksmiley32. She found Nishant's weak-spot very well (his addiction and insecurity with Mishti), she also targeted Mishti's weak-point again (her ehsaan for family) and also hit the mah family exactly where it hurts (Nishant's addiction)smiley32 Well played Meenu, Well playedsmiley16 [and then she ruined it by dropping the doctor's reportsmiley37smiley37 #typical]
  • The best part about this flipping of Nish's charc is the fact that he KNOWS he is doing the wrong thing. He can see and understand that he is joining hands with Monster meenu. He berates himself for choosing that path, but his psychological state of mind, stops him from correcting it (or owning up to it), His insecurity and anxiety levels are so high, he self-assures himself that what he's doing his right because he thinks Mishti is in the same situation as him - the state of addiction. Nish believes that Abir and their pyar is a detrimental addiction for Mishti, after seeing Abir consistently push Mishti away, hurt her so deeply emotionally, Nishant as protector has convinced himself that Abir is a forbidden drug that Mishti should not get attached to.
  • The real problem begins when Abir genuinely and calmly tried explaining to Nish about why this shaadi should stop. Abir knows Mish is too emotionally invested with the family that she will find it difficult to say no to the rishta. So his next choice is convincing Nish. So Abir tries his best to calmly explain why mishbir break-up happened, why their pyar is special and why this nishmish rishta is disaster for all 3 of them. This is where Nishant loses it. For some reason, the writers took Nish's issues quite extreme to an obsession kind of stage suddenly. Unfortunately, Nishant has suddenly dug soo deep into this Abir vs Nish and 'prize' is Mishti conceptsmiley44(disappointed with writers for never keeping a 3rd angle as pure friendship with leadsmiley24 why to force one-sided love?smiley44)
  • So I will condemn the writers for dragging Nishant down so much that they showed recovering addicts and those who suffer from extreme anxiety, to lose empathy and sympathy. The fact that Nish knows Abir is missing, potentially injured and god-forbid perhaps sinking to his death, the writers used his anxiety issues to justify that he wouldn't call for help or tell the other back home!?smiley44smiley3smiley24 Very disappointed with this portrayal of such psychologically disturbed individuals. No matter how troubled Nishant is, he can clearly see and understand that Abir's life is at stake, and he chooses to save himself?! This is very very hard to digest

Now on to Vatsal:

  • Straight off the bat I'm gonna say; unpopular opinion: Vatsal did a wonderful job acting as the drunkard, insecure and frustrated man. Honestly, his drunk acting and dialogue delivery with Mishti and Jas, was very very good. I could clearly see an exhausted, drained and troubled Nishant.
  • I've really enjoyed the gradual solo scenes of Nannu. All the monologues, the fidgety behaviour and restlessness have been executed really well. We got a really good insight into Nishant's thought processsmiley20
  • Other times when Nishant randomly becomes super jumpy, excited and happy, I do find it a little exaggerated. But I guess that's an acting choice. If we I can survive Rupal mam's "MEIN MEENAAAKSHI RAAJVANSH", I'm sure Vatsal's "naughty!!" is way more easy on the earssmiley36
  • I guess the part where more improvement may be needed, is anger and confrontation scenes. Vatsal tried his best at the hospital in his fight against Abir. His delivery of dialogue at shouting decibels is often difficult to understand. It gets mumbled and lost in the emotion and loudness of shouting. [But Rhea on the other hand is spectacularsmiley32 Cannot praise her enough, ALL the confrontation scenes of Mishti from the very first mish-kun gd break, to the latest mishbir patchup, each and every sequence she nails it. Her voice and delivery is pitch perfect and crystal clearsmiley32smiley31] Shah just has sheer magnetic presence and dhaansu solid deliverysmiley32Maybe also due to Vatsal's shorter stature, it was difficult to be convinced that Nish was furious. Shah as angry Abir at the hospital was super intimidatingsmiley32

Anyway that's all I think I have to say so far.smiley31 Waiting to see how the writers, continue or put a closure to Nannu's character. Hopefully he gets proper treatment

disclaimer2: Just want to re-iterate, I don't support Nishant's actions or behaviour. I'm simply trying to cut him some slack. He is not demon-like or devil like Meenu or Baba. He has reasons (no matter how weak or illogical they may be) - addiction and anxiety are real problems.

Woah this was waay longer than expected.smiley3 sorry

Thankyou for listening me ramble on and on and onsmiley31 Let me know what y'all thinksmiley1

xx



Nandu you are on posting spree today 😆😆 M actually confused on which post I should read and reply first 😆😆


Okay first of all a well thought , brilliant post ..a super khidki tod post ...mi agree with each and every word of yours ....disclaimer from my side also that I don't sympathise or support his actions or behaviour, I am simply trying to understand him because I find him interesting enough to do so 😆 Its like you can hate him but can't ignore him vala thing for me 😆


Agree with all the points here , not making nishant think even on life death situations was a big low actually .... if we observe properly , he does become very anxious in such troubled situations, like in the jungle sequence he was blank for a moment on how to save mishbir but then controlled himself, called the police and it was settled, here his obsession and hydrophobia too over to an extent that he didn't even think of calling an ambulance or atleast inform some one else instead used the situation to send a stupid text message , that's where it left a sour taste .... having said that , the psychology is still relatable, it simply shows that he has gone insane to a level that even life death situations are not moving him ... the flickering mind has gone extremely dangerous ...in short poori satak gayi hai 🤣

I don't know now what fate this character will meet 😆😆 but it still keeps my interest levels high 👍🏼


Coming to vatsal, you rightly pointed it out , he has done a brilliant job in portraying those deep dark layers pretty well , the gradual transformation in the character was spot on

👏👏 .... I loved him in the offsite track too 😆😆 The smart funny witty man ...wish they would have maintained that only ... mumbling , I think it's part of his characte only, he is supposed to look weak and vulnerable and irritating , I feel that's why he purposely gives irritating expressions too ....we actually feel like punching him 😆😆 I have a feeling that mumbling is something done purposely here because I haven't seen this is any of his previous shows ...I may be wrong , no doubt when it comes to confrontation scenes , shaheer wins hands down because of his magnetic charmong and and awesome dhaasu dialogue delivery...🥳🥳🥳🥳🥳......

Edited by Onyourface - 5 years ago
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Posted: 5 years ago

A very meaningful post/parallel👍🏼

https://twitter.com/jeelezaraa/status/1222392124345208832


To all of us wondering what the significance of the shower scene was...here is a small answer🤗

This clearly shows Mishti's childhood wounds are no where near to being healed. She is STILL feeling obliged to care and obey for Mah family, as a return of favour for adopting her.

These two quotes from Abir sum up perfectly Mishti now:

"“iss ladki ke zakhm itni jaldi nahi bharenge”

"Usko pyar aur ehsaan ke farak samaj nahi aayi hai"

- Abir's pyar and presence is the only healing treatment for Mishti and her deep deep childhood wounds. Like Mishti has repeatedly said, Abir with his pyar, has taught her regain faith and trust in pyar and helped Mishti love herself and find her own strength to fight for her right.

-Even when mishbir we're together, we saw Mishti's insecurity and childhood wounds still surface during Baba track (she was scared Abir would leave her when he would find out she lied and Baba's truth). Despite Abir's constant repetition on how much he trusts her, Mishti still had that inner fear - which shows how deep those past wounds are “iss ladki ke zakhm itni jaldi nahi bharenge”

-I'm kinda glad the writers haven't neglected this issue. That Mishti is still trying to learn the difference between pyar and ehsaan. Although she does truly care and love the mah family...when it comes to crisis situations and any stressful family dynamics, she automatically feels she doesn't have the right to upset BM and BP, she loses her fierce bold angry chorni voice because she believes she still feels inferior in the family. The strong voice and limited confidence she had pre-leap was motivated by Abir, through courtship and their love story - was all stolen and lost as soon as Abir broke the rishta off. Mishti suddenly lost all her faith, confidence and trust in herself. Which is why when Abir finally revealed the reason of break up recently, Mishti's first reaction was "main sahi thi." That doubt, fear and lack of confidence she had in herself was brought back as soon as she realised she had been right all this time - Abir still loves her. The teenage young mishti, needed that assurance that she had finally found the right person to trust and love unconditionally.❤️

-Even if BP always supported and defended mishti (pre-leap), there was always constant voices (jas, kuhu) in the house that always reminded Mish of her 'place' - as an outsider, paraayi etc This is exactly why she constantly feels the need to apologise, and proof herself to members of mah family that she is worth keeping. She still has the fear they will disown her.

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As Cool pointed earlier today... given all the things above, Mishti has to be extremely courageous to run away from the shaadi, it takes immense strength and faith in Abir's love to turn away from her family...and obey her own matnra "Family se bada love"❤️👏 Hats off Mishtu🤗

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Yikes! kya hua mujhe aaj?😲

I'm soo sorry everyone for my non-stop looong posts spam today #maafi

Looks like mishbir shaadi mood is waking up my inner writing ghost😆

If you did read all this...I thank you from the bottom of my heart🤗

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Posted: 5 years ago

Originally posted by: yrhpk_aus

A very meaningful post/parallel👍🏼

https://twitter.com/jeelezaraa/status/1222392124345208832


To all of us wondering what the significance of the shower scene was...here is a small answer🤗

This clearly shows Mishti's childhood wounds are no where near to being healed. She is STILL feeling obliged to care and obey for Mah family, as a return of favour for adopting her.

These two quotes from Abir sum up perfectly Mishti now:

"“iss ladki ke zakhm itni jaldi nahi bharenge”

"Usko pyar aur ehsaan ke farak samaj nahi aayi hai"

- Abir's pyar and presence is the only healing treatment for Mishti and her deep deep childhood wounds. Like Mishti has repeatedly said, Abir with his pyar, has taught her regain faith and trust in pyar and helped Mishti love herself and find her own strength to fight for her right.

-Even when mishbir we're together, we saw Mishti's insecurity and childhood wounds still surface during Baba track (she was scared Abir would leave her when he would find out she lied and Baba's truth). Despite Abir's constant repetition on how much he trusts her, Mishti still had that inner fear - which shows how deep those past wounds are “iss ladki ke zakhm itni jaldi nahi bharenge”

-I'm kinda glad the writers haven't neglected this issue. That Mishti is still trying to learn the difference between pyar and ehsaan. Although she does truly care and love the mah family...when it comes to crisis situations and any stressful family dynamics, she automatically feels she doesn't have the right to upset BM and BP, she loses her fierce bold angry chorni voice because she believes she still feels inferior in the family. The strong voice and limited confidence she had pre-leap was motivated by Abir, through courtship and their love story - was all stolen and lost as soon as Abir broke the rishta off. Mishti suddenly lost all her faith, confidence and trust in herself. Which is why when Abir finally revealed the reason of break up recently, Mishti's first reaction was "main sahi thi." That doubt, fear and lack of confidence she had in herself was brought back as soon as she realised she had been right all this time - Abir still loves her. The teenage young mishti, needed that assurance that she had finally found the right person to trust and love unconditionally.❤️

-Even if BP always supported and defended mishti (pre-leap), there was always constant voices (jas, kuhu) in the house that always reminded Mish of her 'place' - as an outsider, paraayi etc This is exactly why she constantly feels the need to apologise, and proof herself to members of mah family that she is worth keeping. She still has the fear they will disown her.

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As Cool pointed earlier today... given all the things above, Mishti has to be extremely courageous to run away from the shaadi, it takes immense strength and faith in Abir's love to turn away from her family...and obey her own matnra "Family se bada love"❤️👏 Hats off Mishtu🤗

----

Yikes! kya hua mujhe aaj?😲

I'm soo sorry everyone for my non-stop looong posts spam today #maafi

Looks like mishbir shaadi mood is waking up my inner writing ghost😆

If you did read all this...I thank you from the bottom of my heart🤗


We are just loving it Nandu🤗🤗

🤗🤗

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Posted: 5 years ago

So hamare priye Sitare channel has uploaded a new promo for the parent show...😒😒 again


What about yhrpk? We're at a very crucial turning point of the show...and we get nothing other than, sneak-peak videos from the episode itself?🤔😔

Pooja What Is This Behavior GIF - Pooja WhatIsThisBehavior Wait GIFs

"what is this behaviour!?" SP what kind of behaviour is this!?😈

Edited by yrhpk_aus - 5 years ago
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Posted: 5 years ago

Originally posted by: Onyourface



Nandu you are on posting spree today 😆😆 M actually confused on which post I should read and reply first 😆😆


Okay first of all a well thought , brilliant post ..a super khidki tod post ...mi agree with each and every word of yours ....disclaimer from my side also that I don't sympathise or support his actions or behaviour, I am simply trying to understand him because I find him interesting enough to do so 😆 Its like you can hate him but can't ignore him vala thing for me 😆


Agree with all the points here , not making nishant think even on life death situations was a big low actually .... if we observe properly , he does become very anxious in such troubled situations, like in the jungle sequence he was blank for a moment on how to save mishbir but then controlled himself, called the police and it was settled, here his obsession and hydrophobia too over to an extent that he didn't even think of calling an ambulance or atleast inform some one else instead used the situation to send a stupid text message , that's where it left a sour taste .... having said that , the psychology is still relatable, it simply shows that he has gone insane to a level that even life death situations are not moving him ... the flickering mind has gone extremely dangerous ...in short poori satak gayi hai🤣

I don't know now what fate this character will meet 😆😆 but it still keeps my interest levels high 👍🏼


Coming to vatsal, you rightly pointed it out , he has done a brilliant job in portraying those deep dark layers pretty well , the gradual transformation in the character was spot on

👏👏 .... I loved him in the offsite track too 😆😆 The smart funny witty man ...wish they would have maintained that only ... mumbling , I think it's part of his characte only, he is supposed to look weak and vulnerable and irritating , I feel that's why he purposely gives irritating expressions too ....we actually feel like punching him 😆😆 I have a feeling that mumbling is something done purposely here because I haven't seen this is any of his previous shows ...I may be wrong , no doubt when it comes to confrontation scenes , shaheer wins hands down because of his magnetic charmong and and awesome dhaasu dialogue delivery...🥳🥳🥳🥳🥳......

hahah i know..I don't what's gotten into me🤣😆 #oopsie

aww I'm soo touched that you even read and comment on all my writings🤗🤗

I swear I thought I would have bored and annoyed everyone by now🤔😳😒

Thankyou thankyou thankyou soo much❤️


Yes Nish's character is much more interesting and has more layers compared to Baba. So it really is, 'you can hate him, but can't ignore him' vala thing😆

@bold: smiley37 perfect tag linesmiley16smiley37#NishKiChikdi

xx

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Posted: 5 years ago

Guys Kuch update aaya hai kya?


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Off Topic...


Guys first CORONA virus case got detected in India.In kerala.


Please be careful.


Aaj mujhe friday waali feeling aarahi hei. Kuch kaam hi nahi hei office mei. Full time pass kar rahi hoon.😃 But this is a serious issue guys. In India we don't have any preventives for this virus. So please be careful.

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Posted: 5 years ago

Originally posted by: Jayati321

Off Topic...


Guys first CORONA virus case got detected in India.In kerala.


Please be careful.


Aaj mujhe friday waali feeling aarahi hei. Kuch kaam hi nahi hei office mei. Full time pass kar rahi hoon.😃 But this is a serious issue guys. In India we don't have any preventives for this virus. So please be careful.

Corona virus got detected in Kerala..omg..last tym it was Nipa and this tym yeh Corona virus..hamesha Kerala phas kyon jaate ho??

Anyway don't worry jayu..we will take care of ourselves..🤗🤗

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Posted: 5 years ago

Okay, I think I have saturated the AT enough with my long posts..🤗

It's night time at my end of the world..so


GOOD NIGHT❤️ and sweet mishbir dreams


Signing off, and chat again tomorrow for mishbir friday


P.S stay safe, stay happy and healthy 🤗

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Posted: 5 years ago

Originally posted by: yrhpk_aus

hahah i know..I don't what's gotten into me🤣😆 #oopsie

aww I'm soo touched that you even read and comment on all my writings🤗🤗

I swear I thought I would have bored and annoyed everyone by now🤔😳😒

Thankyou thankyou thankyou soo much❤️


Yes Nish's character is much more interesting and has more layers compared to Baba. So it really is, 'you can hate him, but can't ignore him' vala thing😆

@bold: smiley37 perfect tag linesmiley16smiley37#NishKiChikdi

xx


I am so loving all your long long posts 😎😎😎 you cool and diya are on a roll these days 😆


Sixer pe sixer maare jaa rahe ho 😆😆 m just trying to go with the flow with you all here 🤗🤗🤗🤗.....



Keep writing your khidki tod analysis, its refreshing and so different from the general lot ❤️

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