Originally posted by: RegressiveThug
That is point, there have been many instances where girls abort without letting the guy know, because they don't want their figure to be destroyed and so on, and other such reasond which are purelt motived by their selfish motives. Hence the consulting part came.
And we are discussing in general, I am not talking about a certain couple or a certain woman. In that general terms, a man is eligible to have a say, because a birth of a child isn't just the doing of a woman. It needs a man. To say that men shouldn't have any say about abortion in general, I'd like saying women shouldn't have any say about what men do.
Also it is not men's fault, that nature has made such rules that only females can bore kids.That doesn't mean, men cannot have saying in the process of birth.
Also you are talking about post pregnancy complications and so on. which comes under medical issues, so the person whom you are indirectly pinching, Zeal, has said he has issues with that. If a physician tells a girl that pregnancy can harm her in long run, and it is okay. See I don't even have problem with abortion due to whatever reasons because I feel everytime a woman does it, it is mostly the failure of someone else, either the father of the kid, her family members, her society, her workplace or her own body, which cannot handle pregnancy.
But their are cases, where women for selfish reasons, abort especially after embryo is formed, so that is the cases, the likes of Zeal have problem with. So it is nothing wrong for them to discuss it, and if we know he is going wrong, we can tell him. But by shutting him, we are making him more aggressive. Dialogue is important, we cannot and shouldn't shut someone if their opinion differs from us, that is what facist do, not rational people.
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