No guts to stand against bullies - Page 2

Originally posted by: anisharoy1

Ya then it became equal, anyways Vishal Gupta said that she first started the topic about women from his family being waisi. The problem is this forum talks about women and their empowerment but in the same forum you guys speaks a lot of things about girls who don't support Rashmi. First it was Arti then Sana and now Jasmine. What's wrong if they choose to be friends with Sid and not Rashmi. You don't like Shukla but they do so the first thing women needs to learn is respect other women's choice. And she said that Teri maa bhi naukrani hai. She hurled every kind of abuses and two wrong doesn't make a right. Rashmi was wrong as well admit it.

Instead of repeating things over and over why dont you address what i said when i quoted you? She did not call him mother a naukrani she asked him if he sees her as one. You can always go back and watch the episode.

" Two wrongs dont make a right ". Is that your justification for bullying? Reacting to bullies is not wrong. Everyone has the right to react. everyone should react. Distorting things and repeating it over and over is not going to change anything. This has nothing to do with Rashmi or the support she gets or doesnt get. This is about how Shukla is a bully and how he gets away with it. He has bullied everyone in that house not just Rashmi...bringing in random actions by Rashmi is not going to change the fact that Shukla is a heckler.

She was taking stand for 'kisikinahi' shefali zariwala yest against Vishal but not bothered about Rashmi at all

Originally posted by: TrollikaDevi

Instead of repeating things over and over why dont you address what i said when i quoted you? She did not call him mother a naukrani she asked him if he sees her as one. You can always go back and watch the episode.

" Two wrongs dont make a right ". Is that your justification for bullying? Reacting to bullies is not wrong. Everyone has the right to react. everyone should react. Distorting things and repeating it over and over is not going to change anything. This has nothing to do with Rashmi or the support she gets or doesnt get. This is about how Shukla is a bully and how he gets away with it. He has bullied everyone in that house not just Rashmi...bringing in random actions by Rashmi is not going to change the fact that Shukla is a heckler.

And I have every right to speak for other women who choose to be Shukla's friend, about their choice. Same Rashmi spoke a lot of things about sehnaaz and I don't are pointing that out on this forum. Sana was called a lot of things by Sid Dey but she gave him back and after that talked with him nicely, instead of abusing him, that I see as an sign of independent and confident women, but of course she is called a doormat just because she choose to be Shukla's friend. People's opinion doesn't matter to her, she is much more confident than Rashmi. I watched the episode and she said "Teri maa bhi naukrani hai". She called him what not. He is a bully and so are all the other housemates. I don't believe in partial feminism, I believe in equality, I believe that women needs to respect each other's choices. He said something he should not have and so did she. Everyone in that house is bully. This is the worst Bigg boss season ever.

Originally posted by: TrollikaDevi

Instead of repeating things over and over why dont you address what i said when i quoted you? She did not call him mother a naukrani she asked him if he sees her as one. You can always go back and watch the episode.

" Two wrongs dont make a right ". Is that your justification for bullying? Reacting to bullies is not wrong. Everyone has the right to react. everyone should react. Distorting things and repeating it over and over is not going to change anything. This has nothing to do with Rashmi or the support she gets or doesnt get. This is about how Shukla is a bully and how he gets away with it. He has bullied everyone in that house not just Rashmi...bringing in random actions by Rashmi is not going to change the fact that Shukla is a heckler.

And I have every right to speak for other women who choose to be Shukla's friend, about their choice. Same Rashmi spoke a lot of things about sehnaaz and I don't see anyone pointing that out on this forum. Sana was called a lot of things by Sid Dey but she gave him back and after that talked with him nicely, instead of abusing him, that I see as an sign of independent and confident women, but of course she is called a doormat just because she choose to be Shukla's friend. People's opinion doesn't matter to her, she is much more confident than Rashmi. I watched the episode and she said "Teri maa bhi naukrani hai". She called him what not. He is a bully and so are all the other housemates. I don't believe in partial feminism, I believe in equality, I believe that women needs to respect each other's choices. He said something he should not have and so did she. Everyone in that house is bully. This is the worst Bigg boss season ever.

She was so excited that Shukla hugged her from the "front" pehli baar and he kept saying side se kiya. She was on the moon that day. Itna kaise gir gayi yeh bandi???? It would been so much better for her if she had been evicted long time ago. What a waste of screen space and complete doormat.

She should write a book once she is outside. Doormat for Noobs!! Guaranteed best seller. A lot of girls from here will buy that book too :)

Originally posted by: anisharoy1

Ohh bully, and not taking a stand for friend specially when she is a girl. I never thought that feminism or woman empowerment means this. A guys calls you a naukrani, of course very very bad, then you call him and his mother as well a naukrani, great. Then you ask how girls from your house are, he says they are not like you, now you think he meant it or said said it differently and you hurel every kind of abuses, you calls him what not. But of course that guy can't say anything, because he is a guy and a bully. Then you claim that you use to take all his abuses in past. I don't believe this that a girl who called him every kind of name in the world for calling her "aisi ladki" could have taken all his abuses in past.

Ek baat batao. Yeh tum log baat baat pe feminism ke against nara kyun lagate ho ???

Has the TM or anyone here claimed to be a feminist ??? Aarti has a shakable personality whose only good....if you like calling it dt is her endless devotion for Shukla who treats her like a noone. You don't need to be a feminist to see dt. Everyone irrespective of gender should hv self respect which Aarti lacks. Nothing to do wid feminism. If you can't hv self respect people won't hv respect for you either.

The funny thing with Arti is she was more upset and hysterical with Arhaan for keeping secrets from Rashmi, than being mad at Shukla for treating her like shit. She is a different level of doormat.

Originally posted by: DaffodilsNew

Ek baat batao. Yeh tum log baat baat pe feminism ke against nara kyun lagate ho ???

Has the TM or anyone here claimed to be a feminist ??? Aarti has a shakable personality whose only good....if you like calling it dt is her endless devotion for Shukla who treats her like a noone. You don't need to be a feminist to see dt. Everyone irrespective of gender should hv self respect which Aarti lacks. Nothing to do wid feminism. If you can't hv self respect people won't hv respect for you either.

And who are you to scale her self-respect. Anyways feminism and "ladki se baat krne ki tameez" are the words used in Bigg boss and this forum. I am saying that their is both ladki se baat krne ki tameez and ladke se baat krne ki tameez and that's what I considered is women empowerment. About her treatment by Shukla, she is no child, they both claims to be friends for long time. If you think she don't have self-respect then I think to that people needs to respect her choice whether she wants to be friends with Sid or not.

Originally posted by: anisharoy1

And I have every right to speak for other women who choose to be Shukla's friend, about their choice. Same Rashmi spoke a lot of things about sehnaaz and I don't are pointing that out on this forum. Sana was called a lot of things by Sid Dey but she gave him back and after that talked with him nicely, instead of abusing him, that I see as an sign of independent and confident women, but of course she is called a doormat just because she choose to be Shukla's friend. People's opinion doesn't matter to her, she is much more confident than Rashmi. I watched the episode and she said "Teri maa bhi naukrani hai". She called him what not. He is a bully and so are all the other housemates. I don't believe in partial feminism, I believe in equality, I believe that women needs to respect each other's choices. He said something he should not have and so did she. Everyone in that house is bully. This is the worst Bigg boss season ever.

Arti is not called a doormat because she chose to be Shukla's friend ..she is being called a doormat for blindly supporting him and shamelessly kissing up to him even after he has treated her like shit. Thats not a sign of independence..thats a sign of codependency . And Rashmi did not call his mother a naukrani. Repeating it wont make it true. It was a rhetorical statement. Not name calling. If you believe in equality you should wonder whats up with Shuklas behaviour when he treats everyone as if they are beneath him..orders them about..cuts them off mocks them and yells in their faces....instead of bringing 'women' into it. And no..all the other housemates are not bullies. Shukla Paras and Mahira are the only bullies. Bad behaviour does not make one a bully. Consistent bad behaviour aimed at degrading others just for the heck of it..is bullying. I dont understand what feminism has to do with anything.

"He is a bully so are other housemates". No...none of the other housemates is half as bad as him . No one in that house breaks into a fit of shaking huffing puffing mocking mimicking and yelling for NO reason...other than Shukla. You have every right to speak on behalf of Arti but I dont think its a good idea for you to distort things because it will only make your argument look weak .

Originally posted by: anisharoy1

And who are you to scale her self-respect. Anyways feminism and "ladki se baat krne ki tameez" are the words used in Bigg boss and this forum. I am saying that their is both ladki se baat krne ki tameez and ladke se baat krne ki tameez and that's what I considered is women empowerment. About her treatment by Shukla, she is no child, they both claims to be friends for long time. If you think she don't have self-respect then I think to that people needs to respect her choice whether she wants to be friends with Sid or not.

This topic isn't about '' aisi ladki and all ". So let's stick to topic and debate. When the particular post isn't saying anything about feminism..... quoting other posts for dt ..is not ok.

Secondly yes I will judge Aarti and every other contestant present on BB bcz that's what happens when you come to a reality show like BB. Everyone watching BB is judging you . And Aarti lacks self respect and I will stick to my opinion no matter what. I don't care if she is frnds wid Shukla or any xyz .........choosing to be frnds is fyn but that doesn't mean you will just let that person walk all over you every now and den just bcz you are frnds. True frndshp has respect from both sides. And Aarti not understanding dt makes her dumb too.