Analysis Corner (Mar 31st Yeh koi saas bahu serial nahi hai link p.64) - Page 29

Originally posted by: Antara123

I enjoyed reading your analysis.

1. I liked the immersing part, where she feels she's reborn everyday. And also, cleansing herself of her deeds. And also reminding herself that she need not be fearful of the water. Basically if you force yourself to face your fear, then eventually the fear will dissipate.

2. I don't think Rishi will die. He isn't really THAT innocent. There are phases to him when he uses his innocence to get things done his way. I mentioned this already, but his true love is more dishonest than Maya's deceit of love. Maya, in her betrayal is more honest than Rishi is, in his apparent love for Maya, that we could see when she cut his hand. She probably knew he hadn't cut his hand and all that, but whatever said and done, she has the guts to cheat honestly and bravely. Rishi is just on MJ's path, maybe has it easier than MJ coz maybe MJ had to build his entire empire himself and Rishi's got it on a platter.

Maya s betrayal is more honest then rishi s true love. Maya has the guts to cheat. Well Maya is planning revenge for years. So her plan has to be strong enough. She has to have the guts or else what kind of revenge.Rishi isn't plannings any kind of revenge. He is not even in love just infatuated. So I didn't get this comparison and what's r u to trying to prove and most importantly how does it make him MJ because Mj knows to lie with conviction. Right now MJ and Maya can go to any extent to fulfill their plans.

3. It's probable that Rishi's innocence and gullibility will die And he'd emerge stronger and darker and more dangerous, coz he's capable of the same. He's also exactly like his Dad. What's easily available isn't valued. Antara, who likes him, he gives her no value.

Similarly, Maya seemed extremely important to Rishi when she wasn't talking to him and wasn't approachable. Now that she's volunteering to talk to him and text him, he doesn't attach value to it.

Again MJ not valuing antara compared to rishi not valuing Maya. Antara is Mj wife and mother of kids while Maya is someone whom rishi met twice. He doesn't even know her and wants to date her but Maya wants commitment. He is student and is not ready for such commitment and right now he cannot say no because she may harm herself. So isn't he valuing her life here.Again how can these two situations compare here.

Maya instilled the same fear in Arjun in season 1 The same fear she is using for rishi. To threaten the person to get ur things done.

4. RuAn 🤣. The snoring. And thankfully he saw Maya in Daya, showing she's pretty scary to him. 🤣 Coz people used to get scared of Daya. Why they were watching CID? Coz it's Sony. And I doubt they can show them watching Taarak Mehta. Though it would have been fun as hell. 🤣🤣🤣 I LOVE their girls' night fun. It's so cute that only a best friend can do, for a girl. 🤣🤣

Originally posted by: NamuVyas

Firstly I love ur posts.. ur perspective is something else.. I defo wait to read ur views everyday..

Maya coming into the house then and now was well shot.. like u said from her clothes to shoes all spoke of sharpness. Even her hair which she straightened them..

Maya was not invited by Rishi and the investor who came was Rajiv.. So Maya sole reason of connecting to the house again became Rudra only.. it again shows that Rudra will be the only link to Mj and family for her revenge.. Even though he himself is disconnected.. he will have to still be a shield here wether he wants or not.. For Rudra it will eventually be a game of Heart and mind.. She will take him away and he will oblige to back her up...

My question is will Rudra ever tell anyone what happened in the past.. his mom bro bestie noone knows.. he might tell Maya probably.. I dont think even she knows.. she keeps asking him what is he running from.. like Maya said once u tell ur part to someone it moves into their hands as their strength and ur weakness.. she is looking for that weakness in Rudra to hold.. it's not easy to get it out of him as even his closest ppl whom he trusts dont know it..

Again Rudra is a clear person in all means.. He did not mask himself.. he has nothing to Mask to anyone..

So the wrong doers for Maya is everyone in MJ house except his sons.. So Rudra Rishi here are mere weapons for her whom she will use at every step to revenge the rest.. and ofcourse MJs biggest weakness is his sons.. so what better than taking that away..

MJ doesnt want Rudra company to succeed without him and he is ready to kill anyone who comes in between that.. that also could be the reason in past , MJ might have come in between Rudra and the girl he loved.. MJ has come far from being a doting dad in the 1st epi to a cold blooded man now.. I am sure there is still so much more we have to see yet..

Rajiv the joker.. He has his own things against MJ.. but then one must remember that the Joker can change the game for anyone.. For now he is the game changer to Maya.. but he has his own agenda.. I wonder if he can be trusted far enough.. Also Rudra doesnt know Rajiv ?

So Antara is will be attacked by Maya... but Maya is not here to kill anyone.. that's something I have understood.. killing is easy.. Like maya said Rudra is her link to MJ.. but Antara is his weakness.. Rudra is still with the family due to her.. breaking this link will free Rudra from the family. She investing into his company, already made him financially independent.. that way completely unlocking Rudra.. again water here is something that liberates u.. will it liberate Antara is to see..

Again they used the colours white and black for Maya and Rudra.. I always like their dark and bright combo they try to give us..

Originally posted by: NamuVyas

Firstly I love ur posts.. ur perspective is something else.. I defo wait to read ur views everyday..

Maya coming into the house then and now was well shot.. like u said from her clothes to shoes all spoke of sharpness. Even her hair which she straightened them..

Maya was not invited by Rishi and the investor who came was Rajiv.. So Maya sole reason of connecting to the house again became Rudra only.. it again shows that Rudra will be the only link to Mj and family for her revenge.. Even though he himself is disconnected.. he will have to still be a shield here wether he wants or not.. For Rudra it will eventually be a game of Heart and mind.. She will take him away and he will oblige to back her up...

My question is will Rudra ever tell anyone what happened in the past.. his mom bro bestie noone knows.. he might tell Maya probably.. I dont think even she knows.. she keeps asking him what is he running from.. like Maya said once u tell ur part to someone it moves into their hands as their strength and ur weakness.. she is looking for that weakness in Rudra to hold.. it's not easy to get it out of him as even his closest ppl whom he trusts dont know it..

Again Rudra is a clear person in all means.. He did not mask himself.. he has nothing to Mask to anyone..

So the wrong doers for Maya is everyone in MJ house except his sons.. So Rudra Rishi here are mere weapons for her whom she will use at every step to revenge the rest.. and ofcourse MJs biggest weakness is his sons.. so what better than taking that away..

MJ doesnt want Rudra company to succeed without him and he is ready to kill anyone who comes in between that.. that also could be the reason in past , MJ might have come in between Rudra and the girl he loved.. MJ has come far from being a doting dad in the 1st epi to a cold blooded man now.. I am sure there is still so much more we have to see yet..

Rajiv the joker.. He has his own things against MJ.. but then one must remember that the Joker can change the game for anyone.. For now he is the game changer to Maya.. but he has his own agenda.. I wonder if he can be trusted far enough.. Also Rudra doesnt know Rajiv ?

So Antara is will be attacked by Maya... but Maya is not here to kill anyone.. that's something I have understood.. killing is easy.. Like maya said Rudra is her link to MJ.. but Antara is his weakness.. Rudra is still with the family due to her.. breaking this link will free Rudra from the family. She investing into his company, already made him financially independent.. that way completely unlocking Rudra.. again water here is something that liberates u.. will it liberate Antara is to see..

Again they used the colours white and black for Maya and Rudra.. I always like their dark and bright combo they try to give us..

@ Bold: It also goes to show that despite capturing Rishi into a chakravyuh, it's Rudra who is more likely to become her strongest ally. Rishi is only there to be used when she wants to hurt MJ the most - by taking Rishi away from him. But Rudra is there to fight MJ again and again. And it won't be straight out fights either. It'll be fights that Rudra won't even realize he fought and won for her.

@ Red: I have a different perspective here. I don't think Maya is trying to get anything out of Rudra. She's just trying to make him stronger and stop running from whatever he is running from. I think she has an inkling of what happened to him - hence why she keeps saying some deceit to him.

@ Blue: Agreed. Rajiv has his own agenda and right now I think Maya is just part of that agenda, but he can't be trusted. An enemy of an enemy is a friend, but it's only that enmity that ties them together. Once Rajiv finds another way to take out his enmity or it falls away, he could become a big problem for Maya.

And Rudra probably doesn't know a lot about MJ's business rivals and partners anyways, so him not knowing Rajiv makes sense to me. Could also be that he only met Rajiv once or twice and since then Rajiv has changed.

@ Green: I don't know if Antara is going to die or is just being liberated like you said. It's too early to tell and precaps are notorious for being misleading. She may just become unconscious and/or scared of water.

Originally posted by: libran90

@red- This very fact about Rishi can be used by Maya to drive a wedge between Rishi and Rudra. The more Maya and Rudra start coming closer, and Rudra begins to feel differently, Maya may back off. By then probably Rishi could have dumped her, which could affect her game plan. Maya might plan everything, but she may have forgotten to consider that Mrityunjay is there. Rishi may want a way out from Maya and Mrityunjay would be more than willing to help. Rudra and Rishi may come to know that their Maya is the same Maya, and Rishi's stupidity breaks Maya's heart supposedly, which Rudra comes to know and expresses his disappointment in his brother.

@green - In the MayRa equation, there are more chances of Rudra falling for Maya first and Maya falling later. Maya is too involved in her revenge game. To actually fall for Rudra, she needs to see that side of Rudra, which is closed as of now. People like Rudra take their time to fall in love again, but when they do embrace love, they love hard. When that happens, we have to see how Rudra's love fights Maya's hate.

@blue - This guy is capable of changing the game completely, for both Maya and Mrityunjay. I am getting all the Shakuni vibes from him.

@pink - Show ka naam 'Kissa Dus Saal ka' hona chahiye. Sab ke issues 10 saal pehle shuru huya tha. To solve karne me 10 saal kyun lagaye.🤪

@ Red: I don't know if Rishi is going to tell MJ about Maya. Twice he had the chance and twice he didn't. He seems to be living up to the promise of not revealing her name to anyone even. Also considering that he does consider himself trapped now, this would be the perfect time to tell MJ, but he still hasn't. In fact he doesn't want to say anything. I feel like this is a blow on Rishi's ego and he wants to deal with this himself. If MJ gets involved, it'll be by his own accord and because Aamir finds out what's bothering Rishi, not because Rishi tells MJ.

@ Green: Oh yes! Agreed. Rudra already has Maya on his mind and has seen those sides of Maya that she tries to keep closed off from others. She will also see that side of Rudra which he tries to keep hidden from others and it's this that will draw them closer together.

@ Pink: Kissa 10 Saal Pehle Ka. Koi CID ko bulao!!! 🤣

Dec 23rd - Maya's First Win Begins

Maya and MJ - While Maya is ready to bring the fight to MJ's doorstep she is still not ready to face him. And Maya is going to have to be careful around him and get over this fear because MJ is smart. He caught on right away that there is something going on here and even though Aamir pulled him away, he was obviously intrigued by her and wants to find out more already.

Rishi, Rudra, and Ananya - Lol at Rudra's reaction. 😆 He doesn't even blink when the two go boo, but pretends to get scared when Ananya takes off her mask. And while Rudra very easily kept Maya's identity hidden, in the process, he also set up what the game will be going forward. Tujhe pehle mil gayi toh teri mujhe pehle mil gayi toh meri. The two brothers could potentially fight for Maya and the first person to get to her will get her. But while Rudra took that very casually, Rishi took that as another challenge and another call to his ego. He immediately became competitive about it and ran off to find her.

MJ and Antara - This relationship is so interesting and yet so cliched. Antara is the trophy wife. She is only supposed to make MJ look good in society. Otherwise he cares nothing about her. And this has affected Antara deeply because to date she thought that she was important for MJ, which makes me wonder: what type of man is MJ? How did he keep Antara in the dark for so many years and why reveal the truth to her now? Nonetheless, the truth has shaken her to the core and in the process she is reaching out, looking for meaning in life. Antara is both MJ's weak link and strong link. Whatever happened with Maya, Antara has some inkling of it. This makes her both MJ's weakest and strongest link. If she dies, then the secret dies with her. But if she is scared to the point where she even fears MJ, then she can blurt everything out and cause MJ's downfall. She truly is water. Essential, but, in MJ's view, unimportant. I don't think Maya is going to kill Antara. She will just take Antara to the brink of death again and again until either Antara goes mad and kills herself or MJ kills Antara. Aaj koi aisi harqat maat karna jiski wajah se kisi aur ko tumhari jagah lene ko mile. MJ's words make me believe that when Antara dies, Diya will take her place because right after saying these words, he motions to Diya to go to Antara and she immediately does.

Water - Antara said paani dubane ke liye hota hai. She is the pessimist. She sees the worst in water. She sees water as a fear and this is what Maya uses against her. And her fear for water arises from MJ. MJ has likened her to water, something that is worthless in his opinion. On the other hand, Maya says yah dubane ke liye. She is also afraid of water, but is attempting to make that fear into her biggest strength. Again her fear arises because of MJ and his attempts to kill her, but now she's turning it around so that it cannot be used against her again. She's making it a weapon of attack. It's essential in her eyes.

Medicine - The one issue I have with CVs always is that they don't explain what medications are for. Antara just has this obsessive need for some medication. That's it. They tell us nothing else about it. But obviously it's so important to her that for it she's willing to do anything. Key point to note: she's willing to do anything for it. When MJ took it away from her, she agreed to talk to Rudra. Diya seems to be controlling her from making a scene by promising to give it to her after the party. As soon as Maya left it in front of her, she hesitated only for a few seconds to ensure no one was looking before taking them. She's addicted to them. And is it possible that maybe MJ used them against her 10 years ago when he was getting ready to deceive Maya?

Maya's small ask for forgiveness - It was only a few seconds, but important to building Maya's character. She is on a path of revenge and, in the process, people will get hurt. She realizes that and doesn't want to hurt those who are already hurting or may be innocent in everything, but it is necessary to her plan. Her small ask for forgiveness is her way of saying "I know I'm wrong, but I hope you'll support me".

Maya's first win begins - This is the end to today's episode and the beginning of tomorrow's episode. It ties in everything discussed above and will bring more tomorrow.. MJ introduces Rajiv to everyone in the party and the media as Ruan Publications' investor and his new business partner. That was his move to bring Rudra to his side, but before Rudra can react, Antara creates a scene and leaves MJ embarrassed. MJ does try to turn it in his direction, but this won't be enough. Because Maya's first win will be two-part. Hit MJ professionally and personally. Rajiv has been introduced as the investor - professional hit. Antara's attempted murder - personal hit. Let's see what happens tomorrow before I comment more on this.

Masks - I just want to make a side remark here on the masks. There is something interesting that happened with the masks. MJ never wore one. Symbolically he suggested that he is who he is and he has nothing to hide. See him for who he is. Rudra started off with a mask, but took it off after Maya came and has left it off since then. Symbolically he suggested that he has to keep his true self hidden in the Roy house, but with Maya by his side, he refuses to hide. He is who he is and accept him for it. Maya has a mask on, which adheres to her face and matches her dress perfectly. More likely than not, she brought it with her. Symbolically she suggests that I have to hide my true self when I'm in the Roy house, but even while hiding, see me for who I am. I am unique. I am myself. I will hide myself but also reveal myself at the same time. Rishi wore a mask that perfectly covers his face and only came off when it came time to find Maya. It goes to show that when matters concern Maya, Rishi's true side comes out, otherwise it's hidden. And isn't that true? We only began to see Rishi's MJ side when Maya came into his life. Antara wore a mask that only covers her eyes but matches perfectly with her sari, symbolically suggesting that she turns a blind eye to stuff as long as it makes her look good. She deceived Maya possibly only because she thought it made her look good in front of MJ. Diya wore a mask that was in sharp contrast to her dress (a might brighter and louder pink than the dress). She seemed to be screaming "look at me, but don't see the real me". I wonder who she really is. Which friend just stays in a house for 10 years. Mrs. Roy doesn't wear a mask and again it's because she has nothing to hide. She is who she is. She may have secrets, but she doesn't want to give it away by wearing a mask and hiding her true identity. And finally Ananya. Ananya wore a mask, but, in her case, it was more in the spirit of the party than anything. She immediately got onboard with the idea and went straight for a mask. And, despite her mask, she is easily recognizable.

I love how you explained the forgiveness wala scene. Overall a very detailed and thoughtful analyse👏

Brilliant post Shreya! 👏 Amazing observations..

I'll share what I felt about Antara's outburst in context of Maya. I remembered a Dostoyevsky quote today: One man doesn't believe in god at all, while the other believes in him so thoroughly that he prays as he murders men. This is Maya when one looks at her from the surface. But on digging deeper, she looks more like a black angel. She only changed the color of her robe, but she is still an angel. Why do I feel so? When she says about bali, she cuts her own wrist. This time, she had put black soot of the auspicious lamp on her tongue, something to account for her 'kaali zaban' (what is says or wishes comes true). She put Antara's medicine in her mouth and spit it out, like the medicine connected both their tongue or words. After that whatever Antara spoke at the party, her pain as a woman, looked like Maya's pain as well that she couldn't vocalize. Maya's pain may vary a bit factually, but one can assume for now, something like her womanly self-respect was broken by MJ. When Maya drowns Antara into the water, a new Antara would be born, like you had discussed earlier about Maya's rebirth from water in your thread.

@minionite

I love the way you write and make correlation. How do you do it?? Seriously, I need to learn it! Please do share your secrets.

Originally posted by: Minionite

Dec 23rd - Maya's First Win Begins

Maya and MJ - While Maya is ready to bring the fight to MJ's doorstep she is still not ready to face him. And Maya is going to have to be careful around him and get over this fear because MJ is smart. He caught on right away that there is something going on here and even though Aamir pulled him away, he was obviously intrigued by her and wants to find out more already.

Rishi, Rudra, and Ananya - Lol at Rudra's reaction. 😆 He doesn't even blink when the two go boo, but pretends to get scared when Ananya takes off her mask. And while Rudra very easily kept Maya's identity hidden, in the process, he also set up what the game will be going forward. Tujhe pehle mil gayi toh teri mujhe pehle mil gayi toh meri. The two brothers could potentially fight for Maya and the first person to get to her will get her. But while Rudra took that very casually, Rishi took that as another challenge and another call to his ego. He immediately became competitive about it and ran off to find her.

MJ and Antara - This relationship is so interesting and yet so cliched. Antara is the trophy wife. She is only supposed to make MJ look good in society. Otherwise he cares nothing about her. And this has affected Antara deeply because to date she thought that she was important for MJ, which makes me wonder: what type of man is MJ? How did he keep Antara in the dark for so many years and why reveal the truth to her now? Nonetheless, the truth has shaken her to the core and in the process she is reaching out, looking for meaning in life. Antara is both MJ's weak link and strong link. Whatever happened with Maya, Antara has some inkling of it. This makes her both MJ's weakest and strongest link. If she dies, then the secret dies with her. But if she is scared to the point where she even fears MJ, then she can blurt everything out and cause MJ's downfall. She truly is water. Essential, but, in MJ's view, unimportant. I don't think Maya is going to kill Antara. She will just take Antara to the brink of death again and again until either Antara goes mad and kills herself or MJ kills Antara. Aaj koi aisi harqat maat karna jiski wajah se kisi aur ko tumhari jagah lene ko mile. MJ's words make me believe that when Antara dies, Diya will take her place because right after saying these words, he motions to Diya to go to Antara and she immediately does.

Water - Antara said paani dubane ke liye hota hai. She is the pessimist. She sees the worst in water. She sees water as a fear and this is what Maya uses against her. And her fear for water arises from MJ. MJ has likened her to water, something that is worthless in his opinion. On the other hand, Maya says yah dubane ke liye. She is also afraid of water, but is attempting to make that fear into her biggest strength. Again her fear arises because of MJ and his attempts to kill her, but now she's turning it around so that it cannot be used against her again. She's making it a weapon of attack. It's essential in her eyes.

Medicine - The one issue I have with CVs always is that they don't explain what medications are for. Antara just has this obsessive need for some medication. That's it. They tell us nothing else about it. But obviously it's so important to her that for it she's willing to do anything. Key point to note: she's willing to do anything for it. When MJ took it away from her, she agreed to talk to Rudra. Diya seems to be controlling her from making a scene by promising to give it to her after the party. As soon as Maya left it in front of her, she hesitated only for a few seconds to ensure no one was looking before taking them. She's addicted to them. And is it possible that maybe MJ used them against her 10 years ago when he was getting ready to deceive Maya?

Maya's small ask for forgiveness - It was only a few seconds, but important to building Maya's character. She is on a path of revenge and, in the process, people will get hurt. She realizes that and doesn't want to hurt those who are already hurting or may be innocent in everything, but it is necessary to her plan. Her small ask for forgiveness is her way of saying "I know I'm wrong, but I hope you'll support me".

Maya's first win begins - This is the end to today's episode and the beginning of tomorrow's episode. It ties in everything discussed above and will bring more tomorrow.. MJ introduces Rajiv to everyone in the party and the media as Ruan Publications' investor and his new business partner. That was his move to bring Rudra to his side, but before Rudra can react, Antara creates a scene and leaves MJ embarrassed. MJ does try to turn it in his direction, but this won't be enough. Because Maya's first win will be two-part. Hit MJ professionally and personally. Rajiv has been introduced as the investor - professional hit. Antara's attempted murder - personal hit. Let's see what happens tomorrow before I comment more on this.

Masks - I just want to make a side remark here on the masks. There is something interesting that happened with the masks. MJ never wore one. Symbolically he suggested that he is who he is and he has nothing to hide. See him for who he is. Rudra started off with a mask, but took it off after Maya came and has left it off since then. Symbolically he suggested that he has to keep his true self hidden in the Roy house, but with Maya by his side, he refuses to hide. He is who he is and accept him for it. Maya has a mask on, which adheres to her face and matches her dress perfectly. More likely than not, she brought it with her. Symbolically she suggests that I have to hide my true self when I'm in the Roy house, but even while hiding, see me for who I am. I am unique. I am myself. I will hide myself but also reveal myself at the same time. Rishi wore a mask that perfectly covers his face and only came off when it came time to find Maya. It goes to show that when matters concern Maya, Rishi's true side comes out, otherwise it's hidden. And isn't that true? We only began to see Rishi's MJ side when Maya came into his life. Antara wore a mask that only covers her eyes but matches perfectly with her sari, symbolically suggesting that she turns a blind eye to stuff as long as it makes her look good. She deceived Maya possibly only because she thought it made her look good in front of MJ. Diya wore a mask that was in sharp contrast to her dress (a might brighter and louder pink than the dress). She seemed to be screaming "look at me, but don't see the real me". I wonder who she really is. Which friend just stays in a house for 10 years. Mrs. Roy doesn't wear a mask and again it's because she has nothing to hide. She is who she is. She may have secrets, but she doesn't want to give it away by wearing a mask and hiding her true identity. And finally Ananya. Ananya wore a mask, but, in her case, it was more in the spirit of the party than anything. She immediately got onboard with the idea and went straight for a mask. And, despite her mask, she is easily recognizable.

@red - That one small instance just changes Maya all together. Here she is cat-walking like some femme fatale in the party - and all ready to take down Antara, and then that small request for forgiveness before Ma Durga shows how human she still is. It's like, 'Mujhko maaf kar dena ma, lekin kya karun, karna padega'. Honestly, I don't think, anyone will die so soon. The war has surely begun, but deaths are probably reserved for the end.

Awesome analysis.

You explained the masks according to their personality👏 I didn't thought about it for a second.

Maya asking forgiveness was cute & symbolic too.

What if Diya made Antara addicted?