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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: pallawi1803

so true Grace .till swiss ppl had hopes for AnuPre hence they both were in top 5 too in Ormax list...



https://twitter.com/OrmaxMedia/status/1163114384584876037?s=20


But after that the show took the most disastrous route n viewers ran away.. NVM der aaye durust aaye😎

EK mayya ko Ormax list ki bahuth kadar hai...tho dekthe hai abhi kuch effect hai ya nahin.

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: Ms.Tufani

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I want kitkat 🥳

Mera favorite mein already kha chukaa hoon. 🍦

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Congratulations to the entire KZK 2 Team.

I hope this acts as a wake up call to all the concerned to not take viewers for granted and be lazy in their jobs...

BTW any idea how is Ormax ratings calculated?

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: bashful_moon

Congratulations to the entire KZK 2 Team.

I hope this acts as a wake up call to all the concerned to not take viewers for granted and be lazy in their jobs...

BTW any idea how is Ormax ratings calculated?

.Ormax Media is a team who research and analysis different viewerhips and characters growth and collects statistical data and provides those to us :)

They have reliable research on popularity and stuff...

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: Ms.Tufani

.Ormax Media is a team who research and analysis different viewerhips and characters growth and collects statistical data and provides those to us :)

They have reliable research on popularity and stuff...

yes itstruely unlike online trp which only depend uopon buzz😆

rabhi kkb kb hai list me

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: bashful_moon

Congratulations to the entire KZK 2 Team.

I hope this acts as a wake up call to all the concerned to not take viewers for granted and be lazy in their jobs...

BTW any idea how is Ormax ratings calculated?

Hey BM... your post gave me a food for thought and it isn't related to KZK specifically and neither I am making any attempt to disagree with your POV..

wanted to share another way to look at viewership. I feel viewers (ratings) have made CVs even lazier.. they just show random stuff depending on viewers demand and may be track trps help them get an idea what people liked at a certain.time.. and based on that they just come up with sequences and are spared from coming up with a proper story line, which is pretty convinient for them. Less pain more gain situation. For example dance sequences or repeated festival celebrations that go on and on for years.. elaborate shadi sequences. This somewhere reduces the scope of showing anything new or out of the box on ITV because its always compared based on ratings and TRPs.. so when its not able to its shown the door. And viewers arw fed with same thing over and over again coz who'd take a risk when ratings and viewers demand (social media) are hanging on top of them.

I feel ratings makes viewers happy and CVs even lazier as they keep following the same standard show by show.. first few episodes may be amazing but in the end it same.story across shows.. just a thought..

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: cassiop

Hey BM... your post gave me a food for thought and it isn't related to KZK specifically and neither I am making any attempt to disagree with your POV.

Hi Cassiop!!! Glad my post spurred some thoughts worth pondering upon. Moreover, as a democratic Fourm each member here is free to disagree to any other member's POV and put forth a different perspective that is sincere. I respect your POV and even if you must please diagree as it is the essence of democracy.Things get out of hand ONLY when such difference stem from the sense of entitlement that allows the members to take sly digs or mock the other person.

wanted to share another way to look at viewership. I feel viewers (ratings) have made CVs even lazier.. they just show random stuff depending on viewers demand and may be track trps help them get an idea what people liked at a certain.time.. and based on that they just come up with sequences and are spared from coming up with a proper story line, which is pretty convinient for them. Less pain more gain situation. For example dance sequences or repeated festival celebrations that go on and on for years.. elaborate shadi sequences. This somewhere reduces the scope of showing anything new or out of the box on ITV because its always compared based on ratings and TRPs.. so when its not able to its shown the door. And viewers arw fed with same thing over and over again coz who'd take a risk when ratings and viewers demand (social media) are hanging on top of them.

I agree with whatever you have said in this paragraph. However, in my opinion whatever you have opined is true for the Shows those have had considerable runs; the Shows that are not affected by a little northward tilt in terms of ratings and rank. Hence, one sequence like wedding can stretch for weeks, sometimes even months until viewers get fed up of stagnation. However, the Show in this thread is not one of such Shows. In the last few months KZK 2 has been out of top 10, had lost the slot leader position, grappled with both online and real-time TRPs and seems had even gone off of the Top 10 Rank at Ormax. However, as the Show seems to be recovering slowly and steadily on all the aforementioned fronts, I felt the CVs now need to buck up. The Show needs mandatory improvements on various fronts if they want this Show to continue, at least for some more time. KZK 2 CVS, hence, are not in a position to indulge in nonchalance, at least not at this juncture.

I feel ratings makes viewers happy and CVs even lazier as they keep following the same standard show by show.. first few episodes may be amazing but in the end it same.story across shows.. just a thought..

This is the sad but true state of affairs of ITV. They are good at market penetration with good episodes initially. However, the Show doesn't remain the same after some times. Don't know whom to blame though, audience that accepts whatever stupid or insane being dished out just because being connected with the Show or/and the audience who gets stuck in the rut due to emotional investment in character(s), or CVs who have understood the pulse of the audience to keep dishing them out whatever sells without having to think out of box or take risks. Or probably it is a vicious cycle that keeps on feeding and reinforcing the acceptance of takers and laziness of makers and vice-versa. Lets hope that the supposed revamp with expected shift to finite series would break this cycle.

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: bashful_moon

My reply in colored text above...

Hi Cassiop!!! Glad my post spurred some thoughts worth pondering upon. Moreover, as a democratic Fourm each member here is free to disagree to any other member's POV and put forth a different perspective that is sincere. I respect your POV and een if you must please diagree as it is the essence of democracy.Things get out of hand ONLY when such difference stem from the sense of entitlement that allows the members from taking sly digs or mock the other person.

Your post was interesting indeed, worth discussing honestly. As itv has relationship between ratings, viewership and creativity is interesting and manifolded and every side will have its positives and negatives..

Democracy ia huge word and unfortunately has become a bigger joke in the whole country so I'll truly restrain myself from getting into this huge zone.. sparing us both from the painful reality..


I agree with whatever you have said in this paragraph. However, in my opinion whatever you have opined is true for the Shows those have had considerable runs; the Shows that are not affected by a little northward tilt in terms of ratings and rank. Hence, one sequence like wedding can stretch for weeks, sometimes even months until viewers get fed up of stagnation. However, the Show in this thread is not one of such Shows. In the last few months KZK 2 has been out of top 10, had lost the slot leader position, grappled with both online and real-time TRPs and seems had even gone off of the Top 10 Rank at Ormax. However, as the Show seems to be recovering slowly and steadily on all the aforementioned fronts, I felt the CVs now need to buck up. The Show needs mandatory improvements on various fronts if they want this Show to continue, at least for some more time. KZK 2 CVS, hence, are not in a position to indulge in nonchalance, at least not at this juncture.

You have exactlt said what I was trying to without getting into too much details of KZK as it was for ITV as a whole.. TRP and Ratings may be up but is is it because of anything extraordinary or out of the box.. its the same fight between 2 women and then killing spree.. here they may not be showing festivals and shadis but they are dragging same old fights just to stay in the race. So ratings do kill creativity, making writers lazy in the long run. This show has such young and if they were casted for anything on a different platform less threatened by TRPs results will be different.. again my own POV..


This is the sad but true state of affairs of ITV. They are good at market penetration with good episodes initially. However, the Show doesn't remain the same after some times. Don't know whom to blame though, audience that accepts whatever stupid or insane being dished out just because being connected with the Show or/and the audience who gets stuck in the rut due to emotional investment in character(s), or CVs who have understood the pulse of the audience to keep dishing them out whatever sells without having to think out of box or take risks. Or probably it is a vicious cycle that keeps on feeding and reinforcing the acceptance of takers and laziness of makers and vice-versa. Lets hope that the supposed revamp with expected shift to finite series would break this cycle.

Can't agree more with you here.. even I want to see how finite series fair in this never ending TRP and ratings race.. I hope makers take some risk or I must say allowed to take risk irrespective of ratings and audience pressure through several SM platforms.. lets see how far can CVs stretch their imagination..

Edited by cassiop - 6 years ago
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: Mikii

I remember during Bajaj times KZK was in top 6 of Ormax list.. poor KZK is out of every list 😭

Kasauti actually deserves this

slip from 6th to 10th



https://twitter.com/OrmaxMedia/status/1158760822715236353


Hahaha always flop after Hina & Karan 😆

This is power of soul mates... Slip from 6th to 10th 👎🏼👏

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Posted: 6 years ago
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@bepnah.pyar soulmate break every record of TRP in maha episode 😆

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