Ep 7: Insaaf ke raaste par kadam dagmagaa nahi sakte

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Tonight's episode had so much talk of death, that I am now too bored about it. You know, when you talk a lot about death, death kat jaati hai. So I am not sure how much death is written in this show. Because frankly, I think this show is dark enough, we don't need deaths to highlight this very fact.

Maya & Krishna ji - Krishna ji is not just an idol in this show, he is Maya's idol too and it is his teachings which she emulates in her strategies against the Roys. Krishna and Maya are like a person and their shadow. Krishna ke bina unki maya nahi, aur Maya apne Krishna ke bina nahi. I admire this relationship. Because of all that she has been through, her only solace was Krishna. And judging by all the flashbacks, she has been through hell and back. I honestly want CVs to highlight what trauma she went through. As I suggested in my post yesterday. She is also Draupadi (Krishna) in this Mahabharat. Draupadi had to technically undergo a lot of shame and humiliation after the game of dice incident. And Krishna was there to guard her. But here Maya is only Krishna and Maya is only Draupadi. So I implore the CVs to give her a solid past and not some "jilted-at-the-alter" typical story. We need to feel for Maya, just as much we like the mind games. But is Maya's insaaf only for herself, or for some others also?

Rudra & Rishi's death connotations - Although @Minionite has shared her symbolism on this part, but I will still stick to my theory that as long as deaths don't happen, we should not expect the worst. Death can also be a loss, death of innocence, death of relationships. Rudra's death could mean the death of the person he is to emerge as the person he will be later - the chosen one to fight Maya's battle. His death could mean the death of the son who is tied down to the Roys, death of the brother who would choose what is right over his love for his brother.

Rishi's death could mean literal death as pointed out by @Minionite. Death could be the death of his innocence, the death of his brotherhood with Rudra, the death of his childishness. Rishi could actually emerge into a version of Mrityunjay - there are high possibilities. If taken in Maya's context, death could also mean Rudra and Rishi cease to exist as they are, because they will turn into what Maya wants them to be. There are possibilities that both boys turn into her biggest ally in the future or her biggest enemies. We have to wait and watch.

Mrityunjay's need to control his son's love lives - Why is Mrityunjay so apprehensive with someone entering his son's lives. I am sure he drove away Rudra's ex and with Rishi, he probably would have done the same thing. Is this controlling, mollycoddling, protecting or possessive? I really failed to understand. Can someone shed some light on this?

Dialogues which stood out to me:

Rishi to Maya - Main kisi ka saaya aap par kya, aapke naam par tak nahi padne dunga. And he kept his word. No one, not even Rudra knows what is the girl's name. Brownie points for this one.

Ananya to Rudra - I love...and Rudra goes like MAYA - because Maya called him just then.

Rudra to Maya - Ab hum dono ke ek hone me sirf 4:44 mins ki duri hai - Rudra did clarify later that it was about the partnership.😉

Well enough of my rambling. Share your thought on the episode.

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Posted: 6 years ago
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I just mentioned in another thread that Maya can't be Krishna coz she's not ethically and morally superior and has succumbed to her hatred and pain. However I agree with your point here. She may have been the Draupadi..and now after realising she cannot wait for Krishna to come rescue her, she's assumed the role of Krishna herself. Excellent. 👏👏👏

Also, I had the same question. Why is MJ so concerned about his sons' love lives? Rudra's business is understandable. But their girlfriends? Why? Yet to be seen.

I am not talking about the death symbolism, coz it's already discussed everywhere in the Forum. 😆


Rishi and the death of his innocence and Rishi emerging as another MJ, has a very high possibility provided they do explore that possibility. I hope they do. Here, I already mentioned somewhere that Rishi has the composure, cunning nature of MJ, Coz He pretty coolly lied about looking around for Maya when he scurried away. However, it could also be coz of his innate self-absorbed nature and also coz he believes he needs to grow up to match up to Maya. And considering he hid her name from Rudra shows he isn't hands down evil either, he is consciously trying to grow up. What he lacks is the intensity of MJ which Rudra has got. But that intensity can be acquired over time. MJ himself said heartbreak makes the heart stronger. So maybe we'd see a stronger Rishi once his heart is broken. Then, he'd become another MJ.

However, Rudra's intensity is not coupled with MJ's scheming nature. And that is something that cannot be acquired with time or experience. Rudra's core is good and is clean and is honest. And one can't change that.

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: najma123

I just mentioned in another thread that Maya can't be Krishna coz she's not ethically and morally superior and has succumbed to her hatred and pain. However I agree with your point here. She may have been the Draupadi..and now after realising she cannot wait for Krishna to come rescue her, she's assumed the role of Krishna herself. Excellent. 👏👏👏

Also, I had the same question. Why is MJ so concerned about his sons' love lives? Rudra's business is understandable. But their girlfriends? Why? Yet to be seen.

I am not talking about the death symbolism, coz it's already discussed everywhere in the Forum. 😆


Rishi and the death of his innocence and Rishi emerging as another MJ has a very high possibility provided they do explore that possibility. I hope they do. Here, I already mentioned somewhere that Rishi has the composure, cunning nature of MJ, Coz He pretty coolly lied about looking around for Maya when he scurried away. However, it could also be coz of his innate self-absorbed nature and also coz he believes he needs to grow up to match up to Maya. And considering he hid her name from Rudra shows he isn't hands-down evil either, he is consciously trying to grow up. What he lacks is the intensity of MJ which Rudra has got. But that intensity can be acquired over time. MJ himself said heartbreak makes the heart stronger. So maybe we'd see a stronger Rishi once his heart is broken. Then, he'd become another MJ.

However, Rudra's intensity is not coupled with MJ's scheming nature. And that is something that cannot be acquired with time or experience. Rudra's core is good and is clean and is honest. And one can't change that.

Thanks, Najma. I had mentioned in my previous episode post that Maya is Krishna and Draupadi (Krishna) rolled into one. Krishna was the master of illusion and also the one who facilitated the Mahabharat. Draupadi, whose name is also Krishna (as given by Gods), her humiliation and shaming was the catalyst of this war. So Maya is that Krishna also, who is an illusion and who wants this battle of truth and justice to happen by staying out of the action and using Arjun as the warrior. In Maya's case, Rudra and Rishi. Rudra and Rishi are both rolled into Arjun. Why? Arjun had many female consorts like Rishi is a complete flirt and Arjun was an ethically strong warrior with a moral compass and was a good disciple too - like Rudra is.

Maya is also Draupadi because she has the fire(Yagyasaini) within her to consume the Kuru clan - in Maya's case - the Roy family. Also as far as ethics and morals are concerned, if you have read - each and everyone in the Kuru clan was killed by trickery. Even though others believed it was 'adharma', Krishna believed in the battle to make dharma win, any and all means used - even trickery is dharma. Of course, Krishna is almighty, and beyond comparison - but that is exactly what Maya is doing - she is using that ethos to deal with the Roys.

Have to wait and see about Mrityunjay

Both boys have the capacity to become Maya's biggest allies or rivals. How it plays out, we have to see.

Edited by libran90 - 6 years ago
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Beautiful post as always. I loved how well the CVs are presenting each of the characters. I feel MJ did something really heartbreaking to Rudra. Maybe honey-trapped the girl or created major misunderstanding to destroy his relationship. MJ has been shown as a controlling person and I think he can't stand anything or anyone who tries to interfere in his plans for his sons. For example, when it comes to Ananya, he is comfortable with her for being Rudras life partner or work partner. But anyone else, not that much.

The pool test makes me question his sankiness too.

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: Armu4eva

Beautiful post as always. I loved how well the CVs are presenting each of the characters. I feel MJ did something really heartbreaking to Rudra. Maybe honey-trapped the girl or created major misunderstanding to destroy his relationship. MJ has been shown as a controlling person and I think he can't stand anything or anyone who tries to interfere in his plans for his sons. For example, when it comes to Ananya, he is comfortable with her for being Rudras life partner or work partner. But anyone else, not that much.

The pool test makes me question his sankiness too.

Thanks @Armu4eva

What is heart-breaking is ruining your son's perception of love and messing with their hearts and minds. That is cold, for a father. If something is not right - that means that he will eliminate it in any way possible. Why?

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Posted: 6 years ago
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When one thing is glorified repeatedly, it becomes a Kachra like death became in this show for me too.

We really need a strong background justifying the modern Mahabharat.

Uff...Rudra's dialogues- Dur nahi raha jara, ek hona & I love...Maya these are just stealing my heart ! There's definitely something about them.

And Rishi at a moment safeguarding his love, then behave as if it's not love!

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: libran90

Thanks, Najma. I had mentioned in my previous episode post that Maya is Krishna and Draupadi (Krishna) rolled into one. Krishna was the master of illusion and also the one who facilitated the Mahabharat. Draupadi, whose name is also Krishna (as given by Gods), her humiliation and shaming was the catalyst of this war. So Maya is that Krishna also, who is an illusion and who wants this battle of truth and justice to happen by staying out of the action and using Arjun as the warrior. In Maya's case, Rudra and Rishi. Rudra and Rishi are both rolled into Arjun. Why? Arjun had many female consorts like Rishi is a complete flirt and Arjun was an ethically strong warrior with a moral compass and was a good disciple too - like Rudra is.

Maya is also Draupadi because she has the fire(Yagyasaini) within her to consume the Kuru clan - in Maya's case - the Roy family. Also as far as ethics and morals are concerned, if you have read - each and everyone in the Kuru clan was killed by trickery. Even though others believed it was 'adharma', Krishna believed in the battle to make dharma win, any and all means used - even trickery is dharma. Of course, Krishna is almighty, and beyond comparison - but that is exactly what Maya is doing - she is using that ethos to deal with the Roys.

Have to wait and see about Mrityunjay

Both boys have the capacity to become Maya's biggest allies or rivals. How it plays out, we have to see.

I loved your take. And thanks to you I am able to see it in that light though I couldn't earlier. 👏 Also, yeah but here, Maya is going to get consumed herself. She's the attacker as well as the weapon that gets consumed in the war.
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Beautiful post as always! ❤️

Love the parallels you draw with mytho'.. esp with Mahabharat! 👏

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: MusicOfTheHeart

When one thing is glorified repeatedly, it becomes a Kachra like death became in this show for me too.

We really need a strong background justifying the modern Mahabharat.

Uff...Rudra's dialogues- Dur nahi raha jara, ek hona & I love...Maya these are just stealing my heart ! There's definitely something about them.

And Rishi at a moment safeguarding his love, then behave as if it's not love!

Sahi main. The death analogy has become so repetitive that I wonder if anyone will die at all.

Of course, a strong back story is really needed.

Arre Razia, that is Rudra's way of flirting with Maya. Have to give him yaar, he has sass.

Rishi is self-absorbed and infatuated. God knows what will happen to him.

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: najma123

I loved your take. And thanks to you I am able to see it in that light though I couldn't earlier. 👏 Also, yeah but here, Maya is going to get consumed herself. She's the attacker as well as the weapon that gets consumed in the war.

Thanks, Najma. Great.😊

Let us see if her fire consumes her or becomes the light to guide her out of the darkness.

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