Patiala Babes to take a leap - Page 12

Originally posted by: AreYaar

How do we know he still doesn’t think it’s a good story? 😆

There are many people happy with HB “moving forward” with a new baby at this speed....supposedly that is all in line with the “positive message” of the show regarding second weddings.

Only a few of us mourn the lost potential of what the trio could have been and what they’ve been reduced to 🤷‍♀️

I don't claim to know him or his thoughts, but it's just a feeling I have. I could be totally wrong.

Even if they wanted to show them having a baby and raising it together, it's all fine as long as the writing stays as sharp as it used to be in the beginning. Not sure if the writers will have a return to form but in their hands even such tracks could be wonderful if they get their act together.

The biggest casualty is Hannie in this case. It's been the only thing I've really wanted to see, is them becoming father and daughter. Baaqi, Minnie will have now have two very young siblings. I wonder how she will find herself in all this, especially if HS and she grow apart.

I'm now beginning to wonder if the dialogue of his heart breaking if he were to lose Minnie was referring to this. I never wanted that theory to be put into practice, but oh well.

Originally posted by: inlieu

I don't claim to know him or his thoughts, but it's just a feeling I have. I could be totally wrong.

Even if they wanted to show them having a baby and raising it together, it's all fine as long as the writing stays as sharp as it used to be in the beginning. Not sure if the writers will have a return to form but in their hands even such tracks could be wonderful if they get their act together.

The biggest casualty is Hannie in this case. It's been the only thing I've really wanted to see, is them becoming father and daughter. Baaqi, Minnie will have now have two very young siblings. I wonder how she will find herself in all this, especially if HS and she grow apart.

I'm now beginning to wonder if the dialogue of his breaking if he were to lose Minnie was referring to this. I never wanted that theory to be put into practice, but oh wll.

If Minnie does leave (which is starting to seem more likely), his heart will be broken in two. One piece will stay here in Patiala with this new family that he would be creating, and the other will be with Minnie wherever she chooses to go.

The show has just become a long serious of what ifs and what could have been now. It's a shame that they had to deteriorate to this extent.

Originally posted by: inlieu

The biggest casualty is Hannie in this case. It's been the only thing I've really wanted to see, is them becoming father and daughter. Baaqi, Minnie will have now have two very young siblings. I wonder how she will find herself in all this, especially if HS and she grow apart.

I'm now beginning to wonder if the dialogue of his breaking if he were to lose Minnie was referring to this. I never wanted that theory to be put into practice, but oh wll.

It's the only thing I wanted to see as well......HB totally lost my interest in the rush to romance and baby.....HS-Mini are the only ones who still move me in this story.....but the writers clearly don't want to capitalize on that potential anymore......they've totally been put on the backburner in these Khuranas, Mickey etc. related storylines......there were so many opportunities for convos....HS could have talked to Mini about his attachment to his own grandfather despite what his father did.....but they didn't show that......and on this Mickey issue also, nowhere is Mini shown even approaching HS to talk about anything anymore.

The writers have chosen to distance these characters at the cost of HB and ironically HB themselves are a shell without substance now - Babita throws tantrums, then they randomly romance....waah kya jodi hai.

Arey what breaking yaar? Does he even himself think about Mini these days unless she makes puppy eyes at him or unless Babita pokes at him to go check on Mini? Toh kya randomly break ho jaayega for story convenience sake if Mini leaves? LOL otherwise toh he's happy occupying himself with other random things.

If there is a baby in the mix, toh he will be preoccupied with that responsibility as well.....ab Mini ki kya zaroorat is sab mein.....LOL conveniently the entire angle of "I wanted to be your father" is nowhere to be seen.....it's like bas bolne ko tha dialogue and then forgotten.

Originally posted by: AreYaar

It's the only thing I wanted to see as well......HB totally lost my interest in the rush to romance and baby.....HS-Mini are the only ones who still move me in this story.....but the writers clearly don't want to capitalize on that potential anymore......they've totally been put on the backburner in these Khuranas, Mickey etc. related storylines......there were so many opportunities for convos....HS could have talked to Mini about his attachment to his own grandfather despite what his father did.....but they didn't show that......and on this Mickey issue also, nowhere is Mini shown even approaching HS to talk about anything anymore.

The writers have chosen to distance these characters at the cost of HB and ironically HB themselves are a shell without substance now - Babita throws tantrums, then they randomly romance....waah kya jodi hai.

Arey what breaking yaar? Does he even himself think about Mini these days unless she makes puppy eyes at him or unless Babita pokes at him to go check on Mini? Toh kya randomly break ho jaayega for story convenience sake if Mini leaves? LOL otherwise toh he's happy occupying himself with other random things.

If there is a baby in the mix, toh he will be preoccupied with that responsibility as well.....ab Mini ki kya zaroorat is sab mein.....LOL conveniently the entire angle of "I wanted to be your father" is nowhere to be seen.....it's like bas bolne ko tha dialogue and then forgotten.

So was the whole thing about "I was the one who was stupid enough to thing I was going to be your father" his way of closing the door from his end?

It just doesn't make sense! Even when he was talking to Babita he said we are her maa baap. So he still thinks of himself in that role in some way or the other.

I don't know... They are clearly doing all this for a reason but the drastic change in storytelling is just so hard to take. I don't even think it's a mistake or accidental but why are they sabotaging this? It really feels as if the entire writing team has been changed. We can't even say anything to KK because they might block us. Last time we provided feedback it took a bit of time but they course-corrected. This time it looks like they are on a path of self-destruction.

And I don't care what anyone thinks of me for saying this but... Yes, HS made a major mistake by not trusting Minnie but then he apologized to her and asked for a chance. Is it really possible that Minnie or the audience won't forgive him for that in light of everything he's done for mother-daughter since day one and his immense capacity to love them? Not to mention that the three of them really belong with each other?

Originally posted by: asmaanixx

If Minnie does leave (which is starting to seem more likely), his heart will be broken in two. One piece will stay here in Patiala with this new family that he would be creating, and the other will be with Minnie wherever she chooses to go.

The show has just become a long serious of what ifs and what could have been now. It's a shame that they had to deteriorate to this extent.

It's really hurting me just to think of the what-ifs too, because we were so close to it. They say that the wedding was just the beginning.

The beginning of what? I ask. Going downhill?

They haven't shown any introspection on HS or Minnie's part, beech mein ye NB wala court case daal diya. Why?

Originally posted by: inlieu

So was the whole thing about "I was the one who was stupid enough to thing I was going to be your father" his way of closing the door from his end?

It just doesn't make sense! Even when he was talking to Babita he said we are her maa baap. So he still thinks of himself in that role in some way or the other.

I don't know... They are clearly doing all this for a reason but the drastic change in storytelling is just so hard to take. I don't even think it's a mistake or accidental but why are they sabotaging this? It really feels as if the entire writing team has been changed. We can't even say anything to KK because they might block us. Last time we provided feedback it took a bit of time but they course-corrected. This time it looks like they are on a path of self-destruction.

And I don't care what anyone thinks of me for saying this but... Yes, HS made a major mistake by not trusting Minnie but then he apologized to her and asked for a chance. Is it really possible that Minnie or the audience won't forgive him for that in light of everything he's done for mother-daughter since day one and his immense capacity to love them? Not to mention that the three of them really belong with each other?

It sure seems like it, doesn't it? 😕.....or as you said, they are just going to keep it at him referring to himself as a father in general terms as a title for the world but on a one on one level, he is still her Hanuman Uncle....he doesn't really behave with the full haq of a father and neither does she show any overture or interest in that.

Yes, even I get the sense that there is some intent here from the writers....none of this is accidental....but the intent itself is muddled in execution IMO....I saw strong hints in the last two epis that they want to show that these characters don't really know or have faith in each other....I said the same in my Tic Tac Toe wala thread also......but then the point remains.....where will that intent go? Will the writers even have the guts to address the fact that this marriage was rushed into or will they gloss it over as usual?

Unless those fundamental cracks in these equations are addressed, at this pace toh they should all fall apart.....but will they show that? Will they just make these relationships a burden then? Ki ek shaadi toh toot chuki hai, dusri ko kaise bhi nibhaao without really communicating with each other....and the facade continues for life. Sometimes I get strong hints that the writers know they are showing a facade and the bubble will be shown to burst one day.....other times, I'm not so sure there is any larger purpose here.....that they are quite fine with keeping these equations shallow only hereon.

As for HS and his mistake.....arey aisa bhi kya kar diya? Mother-daughter are doing way worse to each other right now.....lol.....in my eyes, sincerely realizing and apologizing for a mistake goes a long way....and frankly the real issue is communication, not forgiveness.....HS-Mini need to communicate and bond continuously again rather than only check in once in a while to play tic tac toe. I don't think it's that Mini hasn't forgiven him.....it seems more to do with her stepping back to let him prioritize her mother....a presumption has been made that she needs to step back to make space for husband-wife to bond.....the father-daughter bond is the elephant in the room that no one is talking about and is just conveniently presuming has fallen into place.

The writers have deliberately stopped showing both HS and Mini thinking about this.....they seem to have settled into this current dynamic of jitna bhi hai hum dono ka, theek hai. Instead of developing the bonds simultaneously, they've skewed it towards HB. Balance ka problem hai on all levels.....lol

Originally posted by: AreYaar

It sure seems like it, doesn't it? 😕.....or as you said, they are just going to keep it at him referring to himself as a father in general terms as a title for the world but on a one on one level, he is still her Hanuman Uncle....he doesn't really behave with the full haq of a father and neither does she show any overture or interest in that.

Yes, even I get the sense that there is some intent here from the writers....none of this is accidental....but the intent itself is muddled in execution IMO....I saw strong hints in the last two epis that they want to show that these characters don't really know or have faith in each other....I said the same in my Tic Tac Toe wala thread also......but then the point remains.....where will that intent go? Will the writers even have the guts to address the fact that this marriage was rushed into or will they gloss it over as usual?

Unless those fundamental cracks in these equations are addressed, at this pace toh they should all fall apart.....but will they show that? Will they just make these relationships a burden then? Ki ek shaadi toh toot chuki hai, dusri ko kaise bhi nibhaao without really communicating with each other....and the facade continues for life. Sometimes I get strong hints that the writers know they are showing a facade and the bubble will be shown to burst one day.....other times, I'm not so sure there is any larger purpose here.....that they are quite fine with keeping these equations shallow only hereon.

As for HS and his mistake.....arey aisa bhi kya kar diya? Mother-daughter are doing way worse to each other right now.....lol.....in my eyes, sincerely realizing and apologizing for a mistake goes a long way....and frankly the real issue is communication, not forgiveness.....HS-Mini need to communicate and bond continuously again rather than only check in once in a while to play tic tac toe. I don't think it's that Mini hasn't forgiven him.....it seems more to do with her stepping back to let him prioritize her mother....a presumption has been made that she needs to step back to make space for husband-wife to bond.....the father-daughter bond is the elephant in the room that no one is talking about and is just conveniently presuming has fallen into place.

The writers have deliberately stopped showing both HS and Mini thinking about this.....they seem to have settled into this current dynamic of jitna bhi hai hum dono ka, theek hai. Instead of developing the bonds simultaneously, they've skewed it towards HB. Balance ka problem hai on all levels.....lol

I feel ya.

To be honest, hearing Hanuman Uncle from her and even from Mickey, in the way it was said, was just hurting me the other day. Especially when you think back to where these two went with the Imarti track. He referred to his fear and lack of confidence and we thought these issues of haq would be

Or is this all going back to what HS was saying about a man and woman's relationship being complicated? Fine but I just don't think either Minnie or HS are the kinds to maintain a hollow/superficial relationship. She can't stop considering him her hero overnight can she? The way she hugged him after re-entering the house couldn't have been for nothing.

Frankly, I'd love to see if they have the guts to show HS and Minnie continue to build their bond even if Babita and Minnie grow apart. They've always had their own equation independent of Babita, up until their reconciliation even, and the tic tac toe scene, but I want to see if the writers really can push the envelope here and do right by the characters and the journey they've had so far.

I also think Minnie's insecurities will come out in ways that she doesn't realize and I do hope HS will get a whiff of it. As for him prioritizing Babita, I don't think there's anything wrong with it as long as he maintains a balance. Minnie was the one who kept pushing him and extracting promises from him to be good to her mother and look after her, so I hope she will understand. She doesn't expect him to be her father so he has no promises to fulfill for her in that regard. Sure, his paternal instincts will always be there. As you said the father-daughter bond is the elephant in the room that no one is talking about but methinks we are going to see it challenged in many different ways. Whether these challenges are shown to be sensible or not, that remains to be seen. I agree that his mistake was big but not so big that he deserves to lose his daughter or all the happiness that he had seen promises of.

As you said, balance ka problem hai. I don't mind if they show the bubble bursting, because they have deliberate lulled all 3 into a false sense of security but the real conversations need to start happening on all fronts. I don't care how long they take to address the underlying issues, but kahin se to shuruat karein!

Originally posted by: inlieu

I feel ya.

To be honest, hearing Hanuman Uncle from her and even from Mickey, in the way it was said, was just hurting me the other day. Especially when you think back to where these two went with the Imarti track. He referred to his fear and lack of confidence and we thought these issues of haq would be

Or is this all going back to what HS was saying about a man and woman's relationship being complicated? Fine but I just don't think either Minnie or HS are the kinds to maintain a hollow/superficial relationship. She can't stop considering him her hero overnight can she? The way she hugged him after re-entering the house couldn't have been for nothing.

Frankly, I'd love to see if they have the guts to show HS and Minnie continue to build their bond even if Babita and Minnie grow apart. They've always had their own equation independent of Babita, up until their reconciliation even, and the tic tac toe scene, but I want to see if the writers really can push the envelope here and do right by the characters and the journey they've had so far.

I also think Minnie's insecurities will come out in ways that she doesn't realize and I do hope HS will get a whiff of it. As for him prioritizing Babita, I don't think there's anything wrong with it as long as he maintains a balance. Minnie was the one who kept pushing him and extracting promises from him to be good to her mother and look after her, so I hope she will understand. She doesn't expect him to be her father so he has no promises to fulfill for her in that regard. Sure, his paternal instincts will always be there. As you said the father-daughter bond is the elephant in the room that no one is talking about but methinks we are going to see it challenged in many different ways. Whether these challenges are shown to be sensible or not, that remains to be seen. I agree that his mistake was big but not so big that he deserves to lose his daughter or all the happiness that he had seen promises of.

As you said, balance ka problem hai. I don't mind if they show the bubble bursting, because they have deliberate lulled all 3 into a false sense of security but the real conversations need to start happening on all fronts. I don't care how long they take to address the underlying issues, but kahin se to shuruat karein!

LOL.....again, my point isn't that he can't prioritize Babita.....everyone is misreading this.....a husband prioritizing his wife is not the problem....but the fact that he is a father now too is CRITICAL context....which is totally not being understood by many.....so no, I don't think he is handling it correctly at all.....you can call this an unpopular opinion but in my opinion, this kind of attempt at "prioritizing" is unfair to all parties involved....he isn't doing Babita or Mini any favors and definitely not himself either in the long run.....it's all mishandled on his part.

And all of this is simply because they all sorely misread their motivations for getting into this marriage.....is HS really so dumb that just cuz Mini kept extracting promises from him to take care of Babita, he thinks that he himself doesn't need to become Mini's father? That this unit can survive simply on him having his thing on the side with Babita and just checking in on Mini once in a while as needed? lol come on.....yeah I get his lack of self confidence now given the many incidents but this level of oversimplification is now feeling contrived from the writers....thanks to lack of communication.

Why does the paternal instinct only need to come out when challenged? Husband instinct toh aaraam se nikalta rehta hai iska....despite having such a prickly bipolar wife.....lol

LOL HS-Mini keeping an equation on the side again won't solve the basic issues.....bas hi-hello toh yeh log abhi bhi kar lete hain......if there is nothing more they feel the need to address or evolve on then what's the point? Real conversations mein kisi ko interest hi nahin hai....bas surface level pe generalizations mein baat karte hain.

If this was any other kind of second marriage, then equation ko itne tak hi rakhna would totally be realistic.....but for HS-Mini to not even dwell a little bit on where they stand with each other after all this doesn't add up.....even if they only want to stay Uncle and Veer Balika all their lives, where are the conversations? Ki duniya bakwaas kar rahi hai, but we know how we want to handle this.....where are those convos?

That just shows then how much trust is still lacking if they can't share these things with each other.....baaki toh love and affection hai.....bas bharosa nahin hai.

Originally posted by: inlieu

It's really hurting me just to think of the what-ifs too, because we were so close to it. They say that the wedding was just the beginning.

The beginning of what? I ask. Going downhill?

They haven't shown any introspection on HS or Minnie's part, beech mein ye NB wala court case daal diya. Why?

Ab mujhe kya pata Jean. 🤔

They're not going to give us a valid reason and no matter what they say, it won't undo the damage.

We were always saying that this rushed wedding isn't a good idea. While I had meant it for the characters, I didn't think I would have to apply it to the writers too.

Originally posted by: asmaanixx

Ab mujhe kya pata Jean. 🤔

They're not going to give us a valid reason and no matter what they say, it won't undo the damage.

We were always saying that this rushed wedding isn't a good idea. While I had meant it for the characters, I didn't think I would have to apply it to the writers too.

Me neither. If we even try to tell KK that they are ruining the characters or the storyline, they just get angry.