for whom did you feel the most sympathetic in Kabir Singh? - Page 4

i didn't feel sympathy for anyone in the film

Originally posted by: RegressiveThug

Its not excuses, I don't take people who act like they care depending on situations and people involved, and than turn their face away, seriously and will mock them. Its not secret agenda against Kabir Singh, the movie, it is just an opportunity. The agenda is to show the world, that they care about women or their rights.

As a man, I know what to do, and that is not to entertain fake people, who act all mahaan to get attention.

You mocked the criticism of Kabir Singh by calling those who did as SJWs. Taunted them as 'poor souls'. And if Kabir Singh was an opportunity for toxic men to celebrate their idols it was an opportunity for people to critisize that all the same. And if men have indeed called out the god worship of the character that doesn't make them betrayers to their gender lol or fakeass. Again maybe they have not lead the privileged life and actually seen those majnus in action. Doesn't make them fake and mahaan. Makes them empathetic to a problem. Try that.

Originally posted by: AllThatCritique

You mocked the criticism of Kabir Singh by calling those who did as SJWs. Taunted them as 'poor souls'. And if Kabir Singh was an opportunity for toxic men to celebrate their idols it was an opportunity for people to critisize that all the same. And if men have indeed called out the god worship of the character that doesn't make them betrayers to their gender lol or fakeass. Again maybe they have not lead the privileged life and actually seen those majnus in action. Doesn't make them fake and mahaan. Makes them empathetic to a problem. Try that.

I mocked those who act like they got severely effected by KS by using big words. That is why I used exaggerated phrases, like can't sleep or can't eat. See the thing for me is, if a person really has issue with the so called toxic masculinity or sexism, than be fair regardless of the actors involved. some are going to bash Kabir Singh, while turning their back on when if involves their they are not a genuine person to me. While my generalisation in the some of the posts isn't exactly fair, and you have every right to object that, but overall sorry I mostly see opportunistic people trying to gain attention. And this doesn't limit to just one group, I have seen many of those who defend KS, are also the same who bashed Simba or an ADHM calling it sexist and regressive. The same who cry for content movies while bashing Khan movies, than be happy for success of SKTKS, Sanju and KS, and use them to mock others. I personally take movies as movies, and not everyone has to do it like that, but I find it pathetically stupid when people act up according to situations.

Yes there must be genuine victims, and their displeasure is justified, and my generalisation in the first post may have irked many, rightfully, but for me, fake outrage or attention seeking outrage is much more, and they cloud or overshadow the genuine ones.

poor patients who got operated on by a drunk doctor without their knowledge

Originally posted by: RegressiveThug

I mocked those who act like they got severely effected by KS by using big words. That is why I used exaggerated phrases, like can't sleep or can't eat. See the thing for me is, if a person really has issue with the so called toxic masculinity or sexism, than be fair regardless of the actors involved. some are going to bash Kabir Singh, while turning their back on when if involves their they are not a genuine person to me. While my generalisation in the some of the posts isn't exactly fair, and you have every right to object that, but overall sorry I mostly see opportunistic people trying to gain attention. And this doesn't limit to just one group, I have seen many of those who defend KS, are also the same who bashed Simba or an ADHM calling it sexist and regressive. The same who cry for content movies while bashing Khan movies, than be happy for success of SKTKS, Sanju and KS, and use them to mock others. I personally take movies as movies, and not everyone has to do it like that, but I find it pathetically stupid when people act up according to situations.

Yes there must be genuine victims, and their displeasure is justified, and my generalisation in the first post may have irked many, rightfully, but for me, fake outrage or attention seeking outrage is much more, and they cloud or overshadow the genuine ones.

It;s like if a movie is made glorifying how men should'nt cry n should'nt feel pain and rightflly some guys got irritaed n I come saying how tha doesn't happen irl at least not to that extent.Just not my place to speculate cz I have not faced that pressure as a woman. All I should do is be empathetic n understand n discuss.

Honestly I do'nt have problem with movies on grey characters.Given they are not glorified n are shown to be facing the consequences.In a film about a character like kabir singh the ending should either be of him along n taking therapy or him married to preeti but still being abusive to her. Cz we know such people do'nt change ainvayi irl.On top of that the directors comments showed he did'nt make the film a a character study,but rather a freat love story. Some reviewers also blv so,and normal public ka kya kehna.Honestly when I see guys here n there on fb n twitter in a flock comment how they wanna imiate kabir singh n how cool he is n how he's the ideal lover n how that's how they know girls want to be treated, it does make me as a woman feel unsafe.

Anyway after conversing with u in cc I do'nt think you are a bad person or one of those guys who think ks type behaviour is cool.I am just sharing my pov, hope it wasn't rude in a sense.

Originally posted by: RegressiveThug

Kabir Singhs exists in real life. Yes.

Do women have problems which we men can never understand or even think it is normal due to our patriarchal upbringing? Yes.

Do I see a single KS basher on bloody internet who seems like a genuine victim? No, all seem like attention seekers, who have joined the bandwagon, just like some did with #NotMyDeepika or any other trending topics.

Also ATC most of things I have said here, isn't even directed to you, but you seem to take it personally and than call me out personally 😆. I mean I am not even defending Kabir Singh's character here, but you seem to think, i am saying all this because I wanna defend Kabir Singh's character lol.😆

You dont have to be a genuine victim to bash this movie or KS.

I, for one, loved this movie. The beginning startled me and I was disturbed by Kabir Singh. Which sane girl would go alone with a guy just because he tells her to? And why did KS think he had the right to decide who Preeti befriends? If a guy randomly comes and puts his head on my lap, I would not like it. Also, they never actually explained when exactly and why Preeti fell in love with KS. Her character was so stale. There were so many issues with KS but second half made me appreciate his character and movie was owned by KS only. I dont even have issue with the slap because tbh even Preeti slapped him, why arent people protesting over that?

KS movie was fine, movies shouldnt have to follow rules. The problem is that majority of the audience who viewed this movie, WILL get influenced and think the behaviour of KS is okay. Thats the problem. Movies like KS are perfectly fine but nor for audiences who emulate everything they watch.

I watched the movie about two day ago on Netflix. It was entertaining. I enjoyed it. I’m a woman. I’m a feminist. So I do not hold any male privilege card. I don’t know what the hoopla about misogyny was. Shahid played an a**hole. He wasn’t supposed to be romanticized. In fact, I found the hazing and bullying of all those junior med students by male and female students, both a lot more problematic. Why is that normalized? I would have found the protestors so much more authentic for speaking up against bullying instead of only toxic masculinity. But they didn’t. Because ranting about toxic masculinity is more cool, these days.

Originally posted by: Chameli_billi

I watched the movie about two day ago on Netflix. It was entertaining. I enjoyed it. I’m a woman. I’m a feminist. So I do not hold any male privilege card. I don’t know what the hoopla about misogyny was. Shahid played an a**hole. He wasn’t supposed to be romanticized. In fact, I found the hazing and bullying of all those junior med students by male and female students, both a lot more problematic. Why is that normalized? I would have found the protestors so much more authentic for speaking up against bullying instead of only toxic masculinity. But they didn’t. Because ranting about toxic masculinity is more cool, these days.

Originally posted by: Charaiveti

I got more affected by the operation thing. Imagine going to ot already scared n u r trusting your doctor blindly. And he performs the surgery intoxicated. Makes my skin crawl . Operating on someone is a huge responsibility

Same. That again stems out of bullying. He literally terrorized the hospital staff. I was happy when his license got revoked. I thought like most Hindi films, they would forgive him for some lame reason just because he was honest. But I was surprised, they didn’t. That was realistic.

Originally posted by: Chameli_billi

I watched the movie about two day ago on Netflix. It was entertaining. I enjoyed it. I’m a woman. I’m a feminist. So I do not hold any male privilege card. I don’t know what the hoopla about misogyny was. Shahid played an a**hole. He wasn’t supposed to be romanticized. In fact, I found the hazing and bullying of all those junior med students by male and female students, both a lot more problematic. Why is that normalized? I would have found the protestors so much more authentic for speaking up against bullying instead of only toxic masculinity. But they didn’t. Because ranting about toxic masculinity is more cool, these days.

That's the whole problem tho. He was. He does all the shit he does and then gets his happy ending in a perfectly tied bow. He needed therapy. He needed redemption. All that is swept under the rug. His wakeup call comes when his career is on the line. He gets physical with the girl about something her father says. A hero needs an arc to be redeemed. He had a quick fix. And his staking claim on her,telling the woman to open up at knifepoint and the various other things he does is not treated as one being an asshole. He is treated as his symbol of masculinity. A MAN. He was romanticized.