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Posted: 6 years ago

Originally posted by: inlieu

That would be interesting, if he reacts to something that she does or says and goes all dad mode on her without realizing and then they blurt their pain and concerns to each other, no one else involved.

He will. Defo go on a dad mode.... Even in Friday mode he was in dad mode... Bechara try kar raha hai MS Kare pat baap to work ban hi gaya hai....

Actually he also don't want her to be with Khuranas it was quite visible when he went to naeem bi place but he covered up like for Babita even as home also he said the same to. Minni.... But some where in hi heart he also had that fear that they may loose Minni if she goes to khuranas frequently... Hanita were so in parent mode....

Even during Babita outburst when Babita called Minni when she was going to Dada dadi... HS eyes were just pleading minni to come back to them...god this guy speak louder with his eyes...

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Posted: 6 years ago

Originally posted by: inlieu

1. Agree completely

2. Yes it will, but I don't mind crying for such a scene

3. Yeah, that would tie wonderfully back to their first meeting and all the moments they've shared from them until now. After reconciling they can start their new phase of life from where it all began. How poetic!

So you feel it will be a slow process? Oh no! Don't know if I can bear it, but I hope they show it progressing at least instead of ignoring it and only showing some scenes of them once in a while. I can't focus on Hanita while Hannie aren't ok with each other, so frankly I don't want to see to much of Hanita right now. Even if there are these awkward moments and conflicts but still let them interact please!

I don't know why I'm hurting so much for them, they aren't even real people. 😕

I feel that everything won't be alright in a single confrontation. It will build up slowly, steadily. And that might be even difficult to watch.

Exactly, Hanie is the core of Hanita. That's why I strongly wish that they sort out HS Mini first and foremost.

HS Mini for me is an ideal father daughter pair. I dunno but it's almost like I look upto them to feel the essence of a father daughter relationship. Somewhere I'm jealous too, of Mini. What an amazing dad she's got! Aur yeh pagli aise phaather ko chodkar pata nahi kya soch rahi hai. Bhais ki poonch!

Their everyday scenes are the most amazing to watch. You can feel the warmth and bonding right through the skin!

Can't see them apart.

Haha, yeh dono ne sabko deewana bana diya hai. Uhhffff.

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Posted: 6 years ago

Originally posted by: porankisrilata

He will. Defo go on a dad mode.... Even in Friday mode he was in dad mode... Bechara try kar raha hai MS Kare pat baap to work ban hi gaya hai....

Actually he also don't want her to be with Khuranas it was quite visible when he went to naeem bi place but he covered up like for Babita even as home also he said the same to. Minni.... But some where in hi heart he also had that fear that they may loose Minni if she goes to khuranas frequently... Hanita were so in parent mode....

Even during Babita outburst when Babita called Minni when she was going to Dada dadi... HS eyes were just pleading minni to come back to them...god this guy speak louder with his eyes...

Exactly even I noticed!!! It was almost like even he couldn't bear to lose Mini and he was outright begging her to choose them over Dadu Beeji. What a brilliant act that was. Act kya, real life scene tha ekdum.

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Posted: 6 years ago

Originally posted by: Mishti_Dahi

I feel that everything won't be alright in a single confrontation. It will build up slowly, steadily. And that might be even difficult to watch.

Exactly, Hanie is the core of Hanita. That's why I strongly wish that they sort out HS Mini first and foremost.

HS Mini for me is an ideal father daughter pair. I dunno but it's almost like I look upto them to feel the essence of a father daughter relationship. Somewhere I'm jealous too, of Mini. What an amazing dad she's got! Aur yeh pagli aise phaather ko chodkar pata nahi kya soch rahi hai. Bhais ki poonch!

Their everyday scenes are the most amazing to watch. You can feel the warmth and bonding right through the skin!

Can't see them apart.

Haha, yeh dono ne sabko deewana bana diya hai. Uhhffff.

Seriuosly their bond is so real like how a father daughter normally behaves... Teasing each other sharing things with each other...

I so miss those scenes...

Minni will. Realise soon... It will happen slowly.... But very beautifully....

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Posted: 6 years ago

Originally posted by: Mishti_Dahi

Exactly even I noticed!!! It was almost like even he couldn't bear to lose Mini and he was outright begging her to choose them over Dadu Beeji. What a brilliant act that was. Act kya, real life scene tha ekdum.

That scene was real... That tadap they both had as parents was real...

Hats off to them that they pull us to understand their pain.... 👏

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Posted: 6 years ago

Originally posted by: porankisrilata

He will. Defo go on a dad mode.... Even in Friday mode he was in dad mode... Bechara try kar raha hai MS Kare pat baap to work ban hi gaya hai....

Actually he also don't want her to be with Khuranas it was quite visible when he went to naeem bi place but he covered up like for Babita even as home also he said the same to. Minni.... But some where in hi heart he also had that fear that they may loose Minni if she goes to khuranas frequently... Hanita were so in parent mode....

Even during Babita outburst when Babita called Minni when she was going to Dada dadi... HS eyes were just pleading minni to come back to them...god this guy speak louder with his eyes...

He is afraid, very very afraid. After that CD of Ashok and Babita's wedding was played, he remembered what he had tried to push far back in his mind, that she was not his (biological) child, that unlike Imarti, Ashok was still very much alive, and his parents lived across the street.

Since the beginning he has been protective towards Minnie and until recently, has been able to mold her without the Khuranas' presence. However, that video triggered his insecurities, made him question his worthiness of being her father. It also did something HS hasn't come to terms with but that probably scared him: it awakened his possessiveness for his daughter. That video reminded him that Ashok could come and lay claim to her or try to take his 'rightful' place in Minnie's life since there was still some unfinished business between them and since she still officially didn't have a father.

The senior Khuranas were her tangible connection to Ashok and if she still missed a father and didn't think HS qualified to have that place in her life, it meant the spot would remain vacant for Ashok to slip in to any time. It's a different matter that Minnie may not want any father in her life, neither Ashok, nor HS, but HS has some deep-seated insecurity (which in time might even be revealed to be mixed with jealousy) that Ashok has something he could never have: the same DNA as Minnie. It is those blood ties that will keep her connected to the Khuranas and by extension always leave the door open for Ashok to walk back into their lives and take HS' little girl away from him, the sunshine that had come into his life after many years of darkness.

I saw all of that in his eyes when he was in tears before the wedding, when he felt as if the fantasy bubble he had been living in with the apple of his eyes, was burst by the reality of that video. He had missed her childhood but had been looking forward to a lifetime of raising her (with her mother), but perhaps he had been foolish to think she would want such a thing and that she actually saw him as her mother's husband, nothing more. Since he now feels he has no right to act as a father or to have any expectations of her as his daughter, the previous bonds of the heart that he had thought they had shared was just his imagination, and the only way for him to connect to her officially would be through Babita.

The more she leans towards the Khuranas the greater the chances of conflict between Babita and her, and if Minnie doesn't get along with Babita because of this, it by extension weakens her connection with HS. He cannot afford to let that happen for risk of losing her to her grandparents but he cannot explicitly forbid her either. Hence he expresses his wishes by proxying them through as Babita's. It is interesting that the once independent Minnie is developing a dependence on her grandparents in order to escape her troubles. Sure, they are always going to be her grandparents and she should have the chance to decide if she wants them in her life or not, but I think once HS realizes what is happening with Minnie he will be able to help her curb her over-dependence on them.

As NB explained, it wouldn't be right to expect Minnie to break all ties with them unless she herself wants to do so. I have a feeling this will not happen. Now that Minnie knows Babita is in safe hands with HS she will be a lot more at ease (and guilt-free) mentally to interact with the Khuranas because she has been able to accomplish her mission of giving Babita her happiness through this wedding. They are an escape route for her, one that allows her to be a child in the absence of the safe space she previously had under the care of HS, who she now thinks does not want her. It also allows her to be herself and remain aloof from Babita, whose responsibility she has become tired of shouldering but does not realize or want to acknowledge. She is pushing Babita towards HS so she can begin her new life but she is also pushing her mother away so that she can have some breathing room, her own space where she doesn't have to worry about her 24/7. That is why Mickey's questions sting and why she does not want to explore her feelings in her diary.

I honestly don't see how anyone other than NB or HS can help her out, but for that to happen, HS has to put aside his feelings and go back to the being the person he was when he first met his Veer Balika, generous, open-minded, and willing to do whatever it took to help her out. Not necessarily as a parent, but as someone who cares about her well-being and is unable to see her sullen face because it hurts him.

Edited by inlieu - 6 years ago
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Posted: 6 years ago

Originally posted by: Mishti_Dahi

I feel that everything won't be alright in a single confrontation. It will build up slowly, steadily. And that might be even difficult to watch.

Exactly, Hanie is the core of Hanita. That's why I strongly wish that they sort out HS Mini first and foremost.

HS Mini for me is an ideal father daughter pair. I dunno but it's almost like I look upto them to feel the essence of a father daughter relationship. Somewhere I'm jealous too, of Mini. What an amazing dad she's got! Aur yeh pagli aise phaather ko chodkar pata nahi kya soch rahi hai. Bhais ki poonch!

Their everyday scenes are the most amazing to watch. You can feel the warmth and bonding right through the skin!

Can't see them apart.

Haha, yeh dono ne sabko deewana bana diya hai. Uhhffff.

@bold, yes and I think the whole PB team knows this too. Tabhi humein tarsa rahe hain. This separation is much harder to watch than that of spouses or friends. No parent-child should be apart from each other, especially since they found each other after so long.

Minnie doesn't think about her own needs and hopefully getting some space from Babita will give her time to think about what she wants. HS can tell her he loves her a hundred times but until she herself tells him she wants him as a father, which she didn't the day of the wedding when he was upset, he will not feel comfortable or rest in peace. I don't blame either of them right now, but while he has come to terms with her power to hurt him because she is his weakness, she in turn needs to introspect and realize that he too has the power to hurt her because of what he means to her - he is not just her hero or idol, he is more than that. Or is he? This only happens when we love the other person a lot and although they know it in their hearts they need to express it.

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Posted: 6 years ago

Originally posted by: inlieu

@bold, yes and I think the whole PB team knows this too. Tabhi humein tarsa rahe hain. This separation is much harder to watch than that of spouses or friends. No parent-child should be apart from each other, especially since they found each other after so long.

Minnie doesn't think about her own needs and hopefully getting some space from Babita will give her time to think about what she wants. HS can tell her he loves her a hundred times but until she herself tells him she wants him as a father, which she didn't the day of the wedding when he was upset, he will not feel comfortable or rest in peace. I don't blame either of them right now, but while he has come to terms with her power to hurt him because she is his weakness, she in turn needs to introspect and realize that he too has the power to hurt her because of what he means to her - he is not just her hero or idol, he is more than that? Or is he? This only happens when we love the other person a lot and although they know it in their hearts they need to express it.

Exactly!!! HS too can hurt her and he should realise that it happens only when two people love each other. Dono dukhi hain aur dono ne yeh soch liya hai ki woh saamne waale ke liye important nahi hai. Arey aise kaise nahi hai?

He is more than a hero and an idol, he's her DAD. <3

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Posted: 6 years ago

Originally posted by: inlieu

He is afraid, very very afraid. After that CD of Ashok and Babita's wedding was played, he remembered what he had tried to push far back in his mind, that she was not his (biological) child, that unlike Imarti, Ashok was still very much alive, and his parents lived across the street.

Since the beginning he has been protective towards Minnie and until recently, has been able to mold her without the Khuranas' presence. However, that video triggered his insecurities, made him question his worthiness of being her father. It also did something HS hasn't come to terms with but that probably scared him: it awakened his possessiveness for his daughter. That video reminded him that Ashok could come and lay claim to her or try to take his 'rightful' place in Minnie's life since there was still some unfinished business between them and since she still officially didn't have a father.

The senior Khuranas were her tangible connection to Ashok and if she still missed a father and didn't think HS qualified to have that place in her life, it meant the spot would remain vacant for Ashok to slip in to any time. It's a different matter that Minnie may not want any father in her life, neither Ashok, nor HS, but HS has some deep-seated insecurity (which in time might even be revealed to be mixed with jealousy) that Ashok has something he could never have: the same DNA as Minnie. It is those blood ties that will keep her connected to the Khuranas and by extension always leave the door open for Ashok to walk back into their lives and take HS' little girl away from him, the sunshine that had come into his life after many years of darkness.

I saw all of that in his eyes when he was in tears before the wedding, when he felt as if the fantasy bubble he had been living in with the apple of his eyes, was burst by the reality of that video. He had missed her childhood but had been looking forward to a lifetime of raising her (with her mother), but perhaps he had been foolish to think she would want such a thing and that she actually saw him as her mother's husband, nothing more. Since he now feels he has no right to act as a father or to have any expectations of her as his daughter, the previous bonds of the heart that he had thought they had shared was just his imagination, and the only way for him to connect to her officially would be through Babita.

The more she leans towards the Khuranas the greater the chances of conflict between Babita and her, and if Minnie doesn't get along with Babita because of this, it by extension weakens her connection with HS. He cannot afford to let that happen for risk of losing her to her grandparents but he cannot explicitly forbid her either. Hence he expresses his wishes by proxying them through as Babita's. It is interesting that the once independent Minnie is developing a dependence on her grandparents in order to escape her troubles. Sure, they are always going to be her grandparents and she should have the chance to decide if she wants them in her life or not, but I think once HS realizes what is happening with Minnie he will be able to help her curb her over-dependence on them.

As NB explained, it wouldn't be right to expect Minnie to break all ties with them unless she herself wants to do so. I have a feeling this will not happen. Now that Minnie knows Babita is in safe hands with HS she will be a lot more at ease (and guilt-free) mentally to interact with the Khuranas because she has been able to accomplish her mission of giving Babita her happiness through this wedding. They are an escape route for her, one that allows her to be a child in the absence of the safe space she previously had under the care of HS, who she now thinks does not want her. It also allows her to be herself and remain aloof from Babita, whose responsibility she has become tired of shouldering but does not realize or want to acknowledge. She is pushing Babita towards HS so she can begin her new life but she is also pushing her mother away so that she can have some breathing room, her own space where she doesn't have to worry about her 24/7. That is why Mickey's questions sting and why she does not want to explore her feelings in her diary.

I honestly don't see how anyone other than NB or HS can help her out, but for that to happen, HS has to put aside his feelings and go back to the being the person he was when he first met his Veer Balika, generous, open-minded, and willing to do whatever it took to help her out. Not necessarily as a parent, but as someone who cares about her well-being and is unable to see her sullen face because it hurts him.

He is very insecured.about Minni. Right now... One thing is sure HS can't live if anyone of the mother daughter are not there with him... He wants both of them...

@bold... NB knows about Minni conflict but she is not assistimg her donno why and HS have to come out of his thoughts bit it won't be easy for him though for that at least he have to get to know what exactly his daughter is going through... Agar use thoda bhi hint hua... Tab wo ek second nahi lagayega apni beti le Lite apna dard bulane ke liye....

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Posted: 6 years ago

Originally posted by: Mishti_Dahi

Exactly!!! HS too can hurt her and he should realise that it happens only when two people love each other. Dono dukhi hain aur dono ne yeh soch liya hai ki woh saamne waale ke liye important nahi hai. Arey aise kaise nahi hai?

He is more than a hero and an idol, he's her DAD. <3

I think this is the one of the differences between biological and adoptive parent-child relationship. The former you don't really choose and you tend to take for granted. The latter is an explicit choice you make and is born from the heart, which is why there is additional thinking and feeling involved when you consciously decide to make that person your family.

In Minnie's case it is much trickier because she is almost an adult. If she had been a small child, it wouldn't have come to this as HS would have been the one to decide for her - basically he would say he was her father and she would just go with that. Here, HS has always tried to give her wings to help her fly and open her mind but he was swept away by his paternal emotions to the extent that he forgot his own policy on the importance of consent that she has a right to. In the hospital too, no matter how much he worried and did everything as a father, he could not sign the consent form because he even if he had the emotional right he did not have the official right to do so. Ironically, now he has the official right but feels he no longer has the emotional right to be her father, which as we know, is much more important to HS than any legal arrangements.

Just as he did with Babita, HS will let her take her own sweet time to think about things and decide whether she chooses him or not. The prerequisite is for him to show her that he trusts her and loves her as her father and his heart will always be open to her, ready to receive her if and when she chooses to walk into his embrace again. It is in this aspect that he is failing his Veer Balika and himself, and I hope he does something about it soon. If he speaks his heart out, tells her what she means to him, and then gives her space, she at least has a foundation on which to base her decisions after she has had time to think things through.

I am on the fence about whether I want to see this gap bridged because of her breakdown or before it.

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