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Posted: 6 years ago
#41

Originally posted by: AreYaar

Anirudh was another level of brilliant yesterday for sure 👏....he’s fab as HS in general but yes you are right, yesterday he took even simple dialogues to another level and made HS’s pain so very tangible in overshadowing everything else that was said.

Ashnoor was quite good too but he stood out the most in the epi.

Babita really doesn’t seem like she’s going to achieve that strength and understanding anytime soon especially if her focus remains on Mini without any attempts to understand HS. He toh will back off again after losing confidence. Mini will back off in confusion thinking she needs to give the couple one on one time. Aur Babita is clueless. Lol toh kaise hoga solve?

Mini avoiding HS may again give him the wrong idea that she doesn’t want him as a father and didn’t want this shaadi 😕

They will all need to find a way to communicate rather than wallowing in individual hurt and presumptions.

Deffo intrigued to see how the writers handle it.

@bold

I do hope she reaches out to NB now, and that him being unable to control his emotions means he speaks out more often, exposing bits and pieces of his pain. She has to get him at some point, right? Or maybe with some prodding from NB who is going to hurt the most seeing her son suffer. As I keep saying, she is the only one with the bird's-eye view. Babita is not going to get there fast enough to keep pace with him spiraling out of control and there is going to be a lot of angst. Perhaps seeing him really breakdown is the trigger she needs. Her nature is to act only when her back is to the wall, and this might just be it.

Previous issues in this show were resolved in a simple manner, but often they only dealt with them on the surface. By not addressing the problem and only focusing on symptoms they have let these issues cook and now they will cause chain reactions and result in other problems arising. It's time for them to get to the core of things and that's going to take another 100-200 episodes. I too, am curious to see how they will handle this.

I think that's part of what keeps this show realistic to an extent, the fact that problems aren't solved in one instant and that the root cause takes a while to come out. Also the fact that some problems just cannot be solved, one just has to learn to deal with them or overlook them, like the Khuranas. smiley36

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Posted: 6 years ago
#42

Originally posted by: AreYaar

Anirudh was another level of brilliant yesterday for sure 👏....he’s fab as HS in general but yes you are right, yesterday he took even simple dialogues to another level and made HS’s pain so very tangible in overshadowing everything else that was said.

Ashnoor was quite good too but he stood out the most in the epi.

Babita really doesn’t seem like she’s going to achieve that strength and understanding anytime soon especially if her focus remains on Mini without any attempts to understand HS. He toh will back off again after losing confidence. Mini will back off in confusion thinking she needs to give the couple one on one time. Aur Babita is clueless. Lol toh kaise hoga solve?

Mini avoiding HS may again give him the wrong idea that she doesn’t want him as a father and didn’t want this shaadi 😕

They will all need to find a way to communicate rather than wallowing in individual hurt and presumptions.

Deffo intrigued to see how the writers handle it.

Totally agree. Although she’s at the crux of the story and has been from the start, it somehow seems like her character is evolving and maturing at a much slower rate than the rest of the characters. So far, to me, the only difference in her now is that she emotionally blurts out what she’s thinking (not always a good thing) where she previously stood still doing nothing or apologising. Even mini and mickey appear to be maturing at a much faster rate than babitas character.

As much as I liked her outburst yesterday at the ex in-laws and think she should have done it sooner, she’s coming across as tho she’s conveniently blaming whoever she currently can for the crappy 17 years of her life. First, meeta then ashok then mini now khuranas. The writers appear to be failing with her character and she’s fading into the background almost. I wish they’d show her rising above and staying above rather than seeming to recoil back into her shell with every step forward she takes.

To me she’s often neglected mini’s needs and if she continues I can foresee her neglecting Hs also

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: deefy89

Totally agree. Although she’s at the crux of the story and has been from the start, it somehow seems like her character is evolving and maturing at a much slower rate than the rest of the characters. So far, to me, the only difference in her now is that she emotionally blurts out what she’s thinking (not always a good thing) where she previously stood still doing nothing or apologising. Even mini and mickey appear to be maturing at a much faster rate than babitas character.

As much as I liked her outburst yesterday at the ex in-laws and think she should have done it sooner, she’s coming across as tho she’s conveniently blaming whoever she currently can for the crappy 17 years of her life. First, meeta then ashok then mini now khuranas. The writers appear to be failing with her character and she’s fading into the background almost. I wish they’d show her rising above and staying above rather than seeming to recoil back into her shell with every step forward she takes.

To me she’s often neglected mini’s needs and if she continues I can foresee her neglecting Hs also

I agree. I often wonder if it's faulty writing but then I see patterns and believe she has been created with these flaws, and helping her overcome all these issues will be the journey they want to take us on. I guess if things get solved too soon, the story/show will be over too quick so they are taking their own sweet time.

This is the style and pace of storytelling that my parents' generation were fortunate enough to experience. In this day and age we just don't have enough of such content so we are not used to it and don't often have the patience required. 😆

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Posted: 6 years ago
#44

Originally posted by: AreYaar

Agree with all these points.

HS absolutely noticed that there was no mention of him in the discussion between B and M. They were busy reassuring only each other.

The dil ka Rishta line made me sad 🥺....sigh. True. That was his main source of confidence vis a vis his equation with Mini....that it was built purely on love and not any technicality...but now he’s doubting whether it was as strong as he thought.

I do feel though that both HS and Babita need to realize that the marriage cannot survive only on the strength of his bond with Mini. Yes, it’s a core part of the bonding of the trio but HB’s relationship has to be able to stand on its own...they have to want each other FOR EACH OTHER, and not just for Mini. It’s not fair to all three of them to only hinge it all on Mini.

Mini can be an anchor, a support...but the other two pillars also have to hold strong and not put all the weight only on one pillar.

@ bold

I hate seeing him doubt himself. He used to be so confident and positive about life despite everything that had happened and now he's just crumbling bit by bit.

He really needs support more than ever. Don't know if it's going to come from Babita and the whole amrti manthan thing will continue to play until he is extracted from this mess either by her or someone else. I agree with what you said about Minnie not being solely burdened. Babita and HS have to find their way to each other.

I am choosing to see this journey almost in the same way I would in an arranged marriage where the couple did not know each other and grow to learn about one another over time. That might things a bit easier for me as viewer.

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Posted: 6 years ago
#45

Originally posted by: AreYaar

Sigh ....these two are my favs. It’s gonna be very hard to see them like this.

Ironic how similar they both can be. Both think they came in between. HS will think he came between mother daughter and Mini will think she came between husband wife. Both will try to back off to let the other fill the spot in Babita’s life of watching out for her.

It may fall to Babita then to make them both assured of their distinct place in her life. But she herself seems overwhelmed by her past issues still 🤷‍♀️

They're my favorites too, and it's their bond that's kept me hooked to this show. They are so so similar that it hurts to see them suffer in silence like this.

I know we want Babita to step up but I also feel that there's so much complexity in all their lives that she alone cannot solve it or deal with it. She still needs a lot of help to get over her past and its baggage.

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Posted: 6 years ago
#46

Originally posted by: inlieu

Previous issues in this show were resolved in a simple manner, but often they only dealt with them on the surface. By not addressing the problem and only focusing on symptoms they have let these issues cook and now they will cause chain reactions and result in other problems arising. It's time for them to get to the core of things and that's going to take another 100-200 episodes. I too, am curious to see how they will handle this.

I think that's part of what keeps this show realistic to an extent, the fact that problems aren't solved in one instant and that the root cause takes a while to come out. Also the fact that some problems just cannot be solved, one just has to learn to deal with them or overlook them, like the Khuranas. smiley36

+100

I agree...this show makes you soak in spectrum of emotions, including the reality that most of life has to be spent tackling all shades of problems, some which may never find solutions, some which may only keep getting solved on a temporary basis. Permanent resolutions are hard to find.

I just marvel over how much this show has the capacity to make me feel. That is what becomes an addicting feeling that I need to force myself to come out of to get some work done 😆....it’s a marvelous world they’ve created where I crave meeting and hearing from these characters everyday. Touchwood.

As for Babita...it’s anyone’s guess what will shock her into realizing the depth of issues here. Her journey remains a complex one to unravel because of her emotional handicaps.

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Posted: 6 years ago
#47

Originally posted by: AreYaar

+100

I agree...this show makes you soak in spectrum of emotions, including the reality that most of life has to be spent tackling all shades of problems, some which may never find solutions, some which may only keep getting solved on a temporary basis. Permanent resolutions are hard to find.

I just marvel over how much this show has the capacity to make me feel. That is what becomes an addicting feeling that I need to force myself to come out of to get some work done 😆....it’s a marvelous world they’ve created where I crave meeting and hearing from these characters everyday. Touchwood.

As for Babita...it’s anyone’s guess what will shock her into realizing the depth of issues here. Her journey remains a complex one to unravel because of her emotional handicaps.

@bold

The writing forces us to confront our emotions and our inner stance on various issues, how we react to events and characters, and what our thought process is along the way. Many of us are also evolving along with the characters on the show, which is no mean feat.

I also feel transported to this world and can't stop thinking about the characters on a daily basis. 😃

Yes, Babita's journey is complex but so is her character. The way it's been written provides the CVs with ample scope to explore a lot of things. I sometimes feel they should capitalize more on this but maybe I am missing something.

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Posted: 6 years ago
#48

Originally posted by: deefy89

Totally agree. Although she’s at the crux of the story and has been from the start, it somehow seems like her character is evolving and maturing at a much slower rate than the rest of the characters. So far, to me, the only difference in her now is that she emotionally blurts out what she’s thinking (not always a good thing) where she previously stood still doing nothing or apologising. Even mini and mickey appear to be maturing at a much faster rate than babitas character.

As much as I liked her outburst yesterday at the ex in-laws and think she should have done it sooner, she’s coming across as tho she’s conveniently blaming whoever she currently can for the crappy 17 years of her life. First, meeta then ashok then mini now khuranas. The writers appear to be failing with her character and she’s fading into the background almost. I wish they’d show her rising above and staying above rather than seeming to recoil back into her shell with every step forward she takes.

To me she’s often neglected mini’s needs and if she continues I can foresee her neglecting Hs also

I agree that Babita is slower to evolve than the other characters because hers is a case of repression unlike the others....much more complex to resolve no matter how much she’s managed to overcome.

I don’t think she only blames others for those 17 years of her life. She’s blamed herself many times too for not having the strength to stand up for herself, for being naive enough to be taken for a ride. There’s a lot of self loathing mixed in with the self pity.

But then again, she’s not the only one into self pity in this story. Lol

I don’t think she’s completely fading, but yes right now, the other characters are making a stronger impact so the writers do need to evolve her towards something impactful.

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Posted: 6 years ago
#49

Originally posted by: inlieu

I agree. I often wonder if it's faulty writing but then I see patterns and believe she has been created with these flaws, and helping her overcome all these issues will be the journey they want to take us on. I guess if things get solved too soon, the story/show will be over too quick so they are taking their own sweet time.

This is the style and pace of storytelling that my parents' generation were fortunate enough to experience. In this day and age we just don't have enough of such content so we are not used to it and don't often have the patience required. 😆

I get them not wanting to solve things too quickly however they’ve done the wedding part in a pretty rushed way which has made it feel like a faster pace show. Add to that all of the other characters have grown yet babita seems to be stagnating. It’s almost as if every step forward she takes a few steps back. Idk whether this is done on purpose but it’s not doing anything to make her stronger. It seems like she always needs mini by her side telling her the same old stuff (don’t worry what ppl say for eg) over and over again. I’d have loved to have seen her reach a certain point where she can hold her own without always coming across as child like and needing babying. I’m beginning to wonder whether the story is meant to be told more from mini’s perspective than babitas.

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Posted: 6 years ago
#50

Originally posted by: inlieu

I agree. I often wonder if it's faulty writing but then I see patterns and believe she has been created with these flaws, and helping her overcome all these issues will be the journey they want to take us on. I guess if things get solved too soon, the story/show will be over too quick so they are taking their own sweet time.

This is the style and pace of storytelling that my parents' generation were fortunate enough to experience. In this day and age we just don't have enough of such content so we are not used to it and don't often have the patience required. 😆

Very true 😆

That patience hardly exists in today’s world, let alone in the storytelling. So we hold on to this show as a marvel even if it falters a bit sometimes. Lol

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