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Posted: 6 years ago
#61

Originally posted by: EtherealRati

i dont personally feel the timing was wrong as he had just stopped pre from falling. And he still controlled on pre's insistance.....but mohini initiated a war of words by once again making prerna the target. She knew bajaj attacked her son......why was hate shown towards prerna more.???...why would a mother fear bajaj at that moment.....i would have been okay with her if she had given a hearing to bajaj. I am okay that she was not okay or dint felt any better that bajaj was there to appologize.....because her son was in icu...his appology doesnt matters. That thing i can take. Infact i would have loved if she had said worst things to bajaj because he was not showing enough guilt about risking someone life even at that moment. But unfortunately the target was prerna.....she kills people....she has crossed her limit was a more imp point of discusssion which was disappointing. Basus have lived with her for so much time to know that her concern for anurag was not fake....dint they themself said that the way prerna ran out of house....its for someone really close to her....so when mohini actually said what you did to my son, that was actually doubting her intentions as if she went it to hurt anurag....that was hopeless for me as a viewer. And nobody holds the right to push somebody like that......they have the right to call police....that they did but the push was wrong, especially because they too knew somewhere that prerna was there for anurag....she confessed too before entering the room.

Right at that moment Mohini is not in her senses. I am a firm believer in God. So, for me Mohini questioning God and challenging him is a grave mistake than what she did to Prerna. And i had written in one of the posts i made on Shubaavi 2-3days back, that the connection between a mother & her kid is something which cannot be described in words. That doesn't mean she has the right to question the One who blessed her with a child like Anu. So, if in her insane state did do it, then her behaviour with Pre is not an issue for me. I know still you will not be convinced. So, let's agree to disagree on this matter.😊

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: grace4317

This post indeed deserves a special mention and lots of 👏. And the bolded words are exactly what I feel about the relation between PreRish. Occassionally we would get a glimpse of that sassy Pre; but most of the time I feel suffocated watching the caged Pre. I still can't forget the daring angry stare he gave to Pre when she came down calling Bajaj after the AnuPre kitchen scene. That one stare is enough to summarise why Pre is hesitating to go against Bajaj, as she subconciously do have the fear of him being capable of doing anything that can harm the Basus. So, when I read posts on how Bajaj respects Pre and will make her independent, I doubt whether i am watching a different show. But then that is how the tradition is. Once the marriage is over your husband should be your world and even when i am rooting for AnuPre, this is something i too can't deny as i too believe in it. But since i love Pre very much, I can't see her sailing in two boats. So, i wish that if EK wants to make PreRish the end game, then they will show her not as someone who follows the line 'kisi ki pyar lekar naya jahaan basaana'. Instead Bajaj should be redeemed totally and she should move on completely without any trace of Anu in her mind or heart. And Anu too will get a blissful married life. And that day i too can move on from KZK, as i can't forget my AnuPre that soon.😭

Grace for me no matter how good bajaj becomes now... He cant be redeemed coz whtever is done cant be undone. If he says tht moh n nivi are making her feel terrible... But hes conveniently forgetting that he is the reason y ppl r cursing her or abusing her!

I agree abt pre fearing bajaj... Thr may be a subconcious fear tht is driving pre's stoned facade towards anu and basus. Evidently she has given up on everything incuding her chance towards happiness. I feel stifted watching her. The girl is a living corpse.

However marriage cannot be made on conditions. So for me this is a sham n insult to the institution itself. I hv just posted something on AT abt y i feel tht pre shud walk out if it.

Hv pm'd u :)

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: EtherealRati

My thing is i accept that bajaj had disrespected prerna when cookie went missing.....and him calling her a 'cheez' was direspect too......but if a husband hasnt respected his wife on some occassions......does it rob him off from the right to protect her in front of others when she is being publically subjected to humiliation with no mistake of hers. No ....it doesnt in my openion....he did right by defending her there. He should be guilty of disrespecting her whenever he has and he had shown the guilt in cookie's case atleast. And he should not throw disrespect at her in future too....that i feel...he won't. What i dint liked in bajaj in the scene was the casual approach with which he said accident intentionally nahi kiya.....joh bolna hain mujhe boliye. He should have stopped there. His "i know how to handle you guys when you attack me" was something which didnt go well with me. He should have been more appologetic about what he has done, considering anurag is facing such a critical situation. Though its not like ....he is not guilty at all....but he is very bad at showing his emotions.

Bajaj has full right to defend his wife. What we have a difference is that he is given a free pass with the justification that it is his character growth when in fact he is sounding like a hypocrite while fingers are pointed towards Mohini for the same mistake. In Mohini's case, she atleast once was shown guilty and had asked forgiveness from Pre & Veena maa. She even was shown calling Prerna to know where she was, when everyone else including Anu & the Sharmas were busy celebrating Anu's return after acquitted by the court. She was eagerly waiting to do Pre's aarti and accept her as her bahu. So, for this very reason I am fine with Mohini's fury against Prerna. Also, to your question to why the Basus & Sharmas are not analysing on how all the proofs from Bajaj was arranged, first of all it is the advocate who presented the proofs in the court. Only the advocate knows that Pre arranged the proofs and that is why she particularly asked him to keep it a secret. Secondly, even after presenting the proofs, the judge was not ready to believe that Ronit was not murdered. It is after Prerna exposes the man under the burqa that the court is convinced and frees Anu. And, it is not necessary that Pre's this act need to be understood by the Basus or Sharmas was a result of Bajaj's tip off to Pre. Instead it can be taken more like a random guess or even as some intuitive call. So, in both cases it is not easy for both parties to connect a direct link of the proofs & tipoff to PreRish's deal. Anu as he calmed down was on the path to find the truth. But unfortunately accident happened and now it is quite natural that Mohini & Nivi hates PreRish more strongly. So, in short, from where i see it, if Bajaj can be justified for the ways he has illtreated Pre, Basus too can be justified, especially since it was shown that they had apologised for all their wrongdoings and was on the path of redemption.

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Posted: 6 years ago
#64

Mr. Bajaj did not get married Prerna for shake of Kuki. He wanted to take over what all Anurag's belongs and make him suffered. After the marriage, he wanted to make Prerna settled in the relationship with him. He throw the idea of Kuki as he studied Prerna's affection for kids.

He studied very well about Prerna's qualities, her good and bad, her beliefs and values. He controls Prerna some extend and balance the situation by putting Kuki in-front of Prerna. He suppose then Prerna believe that "Mr. Bajaj is not a bad person and he did all for shake of Kuki not for destroying Anurag any more".

Thus Mr Bajaj is pretending and saying he won't do any harm to Anurag and his business. To confirm his behaviour, he let Prerna to go to Anurag and expect she will build trust on him. But, he is playing the double game (Ex: Kolkata express and arrangement of a party).

If Prerna needs her self-respect, it is a great time to ask for divorce from Mr Bajaj. He is gradually falling love with Prerna and does not like to hurt her. He will rethink to release Prerna from the deal marriage to make her happy.

It is not the simple task to get rid of marriage easily in context with social perspectives. But,according to our mind set, is this marriage socially acceptable one??? blackmailing and got married. No way. I don't think. We can't justify. Prerna should fight back to protect her love.

But, problem is that Prerna is afraid of what will be the next step of Mr Bajaj and will it be harm to Anurag and his family? She loves Anurag.

However, time has come. Prerna should reveal all the truth behind her sacrifice. Then, she should decide either she move with Mr. Bajaj or go back to Anurag.


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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: euphoric

Grace for me no matter how good bajaj becomes now... He cant be redeemed coz whtever is done cant be undone. If he says tht moh n nivi are making her feel terrible... But hes conveniently forgetting that he is the reason y ppl r cursing her or abusing her!

I agree abt pre fearing bajaj... Thr may be a subconcious fear tht is driving pre's stoned facade towards anu and basus. Evidently she has given up on everything incuding her chance towards happiness. I feel stifted watching her. The girl is a living corpse.

However marriage cannot be made on conditions. So for me this is a sham n insult to the institution itself. I hv just posted something on AT abt y i feel tht pre shud walk out if it.

Hv pm'd u :)

Wonderful posts euphoric..i feel her life has taken a turn where therr is no u turn. So its best to accept it , rather than lamenting over what could be and what should be ..practically it could have been a worst case scenario but in this deal its not like that..all said and done bajaj is not as bad as lets say. People like komo or ronit..he does have redeeming qualities..it's like looking at the glass half empty or half full..women are subjected to far worse treatment including physical and mental abuse , domestic violence , marital rape..many times life doesn't go as per plan..may be she won't regret this after sometime.. I dont see her caged.. She needs to take a stand properly thats it. ..anurag will.be on her side incase she wants to come back,He said he wants her back with her head held high and bajaj , he is too selfish to let her go.....She will either have to fight to get what she wants or back off , but what does she want ? Her choice matters the most..some effort has to be there from her side to express herself.

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: masdhu

Mr. Bajaj did not get married Prerna for shake of Kuki. He wanted to take over what all Anurag's belongs and make him suffered. After the marriage, he wanted to make Prerna settled in the relationship with him. He throw the idea of Kuki as he studied Prerna's affection for kids.

He studied very well about Prerna's qualities, her good and bad, her beliefs and values. He controls Prerna some extend and balance the situation by putting Kuki in-front of Prerna. He suppose then Prerna believe that "Mr. Bajaj is not a bad person and he did all for shake of Kuki not for destroying Anurag any more".

Thus Mr Bajaj is pretending and saying he won't do any harm to Anurag and his business. To confirm his behaviour, he let Prerna to go to Anurag and expect she will build trust on him. But, he is playing the double game (Ex: Kolkata express and arrangement of a party).

If Prerna needs her self-respect, it is a great time to ask for divorce from Mr Bajaj. He is gradually falling love with Prerna and does not like to hurt her. He will rethink to release Prerna from the deal marriage to make her happy.

It is not the simple task to get rid of marriage easily in context with social perspectives. But,according to our mind set, is this marriage socially acceptable one??? blackmailing and got married. No way. I don't think. We can't justify. Prerna should fight back to protect her love.

But, problem is that Prerna is afraid of what will be the next step of Mr Bajaj and will it be harm to Anurag and his family? She loves Anurag.

However, time has come. Prerna should reveal all the truth behind her sacrifice. Then, she should decide either she move with Mr. Bajaj or go back to Anurag.


Though I too sometimes get similar vibes like what you have mentioned above, I will not keep my hope high as Mata cannot be trusted.😔

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: grace4317

Though I too sometimes get similar vibes like what you have mentioned above, I will not keep my hope high as Mata cannot be trusted.😔

I to get these vibes. I hv mentioned this earlier too tht bajaj is just playing with pre's emotions.

Kuki was not the only reason behind this marriage... As i mentioned in my earlier post it was taking pre in his possession. And then kuki was brought to justify his stand. He has been manipulating pre with his emotional drama.

Now even if i give him benefit of doubt at tht instance during marriage... Its getting evident tht he ll become obsessive abt pre. Like now whn pre's focus will be anu... We hv already seen bts of kuki being brought it. So again he ll be getting the kid to pull her back. Its like gaaye ko baandhne ke liye khoonta! If he was so clean he wud hv revealed his connection with basus to her by now. But he is using pre in two ways... 1. As his armour to dogde anu's attacks and 2. As a weapon to hurt anu.

He's playing a double game. In his control he is taking measured step to rub salt over basu's wounds. And when challenged he does things on impulses. Its his game! There is more about him that is to be revealed.

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: grace4317

Though I too sometimes get similar vibes like what you have mentioned above, I will not keep my hope high as Mata cannot be trusted.😔

Yes. I do not also have trust on writers in fact that the story line takes drastic turn in time to time, no solid foundation behind the story.

However, have a hope writers will show us how Prerna comes out of this mess and spend her life with full of happiness and satisfaction. People do everything in their life for satisfaction and make themselves being happy.

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: euphoric

I to get these vibes. I hv mentioned this earlier too tht bajaj is just playing with pre's emotions.

Kuki was not the only reason behind this marriage... As i mentioned in my earlier post it was taking pre in his possession. And then kuki was brought to justify his stand. He has been manipulating pre with his emotional drama.

Now even if i give him benefit of doubt at tht instance during marriage... Its getting evident tht he ll become obsessive abt pre. Like now whn pre's focus will be anu... We hv already seen bts of kuki being brought it. So again he ll be getting the kid to pull her back. Its like gaaye ko baandhne ke liye khoonta! If he was so clean he wud hv revealed his connection with basus to her by now. But he is using pre in two ways... 1. As his armour to dogde anu's attacks and 2. As a weapon to hurt anu.

He's playing a double game. In his control he is taking measured step to rub salt over basu's wounds. And when challenged he does things on impulses. Its his game! There is more about him that is to be revealed.

Exactly, Eupho, I feel the same way. Prerna handled most of incidents in their life smartly and but why does she not now? What happened to her brain power? She acts like a robot and Mr. Bajaj handle her the way what he wants. But, Prerna should be strong enough to tackle the situation.

First of all, she should reveal the real truth of her sacrifice to her mother. Mother is the best friend of any daughter who could ever find in the society, and in the world. Veena will give Prerna to proper solution to get rid of these dilemma.

But, do we have trust on writers? No.

Writer has totally forgotten the past stories and try to establish different story lines.

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: euphoric

I to get these vibes. I hv mentioned this earlier too tht bajaj is just playing with pre's emotions.

Kuki was not the only reason behind this marriage... As i mentioned in my earlier post it was taking pre in his possession. And then kuki was brought to justify his stand. He has been manipulating pre with his emotional drama.

Now even if i give him benefit of doubt at tht instance during marriage... Its getting evident tht he ll become obsessive abt pre. Like now whn pre's focus will be anu... We hv already seen bts of kuki being brought it. So again he ll be getting the kid to pull her back. Its like gaaye ko baandhne ke liye khoonta! If he was so clean he wud hv revealed his connection with basus to her by now. But he is using pre in two ways... 1. As his armour to dogde anu's attacks and 2. As a weapon to hurt anu.

He's playing a double game. In his control he is taking measured step to rub salt over basu's wounds. And when challenged he does things on impulses. Its his game! There is more about him that is to be revealed.

Initially i thought he was playing a double game and so I didn't take his reason of marrying Pre for Kuki seriously. But as in between the narration turned to be in a way that he is getting whitewashed, I started giving him a benefit of doubt. But recently, just before Anu's accident when Pre questions him on why he threatened Anu, he lies to Pre that Anu told something bad about his family, whereas Anu had just reiterated to him that Bajaj can't do anything more bad to him than snatching Pre, his happiness from him. Also he getting angry & disturbed when Anu stares at Pre, whereas he himself had told the previous night to Anu that he trusts Prerna, didn't go well with me. That is how I again started getting reminded of Anu's words when Bajaj was introduced - that the calmness you witness on his face is superficial; whereas deep inside there is a storm brewing in him. It would indeed be interesting if the track is taking that turn and I am sure that it will be another feather on KSG's cap as in the introductory episodes he proved how convincingly he can play out the grey character. His whole body language as well as his walk seemed to be like that of a panther waiting for its prey. Lekin umeed rakthi hoon ki ye sab sapna nahin rahe jaaye.😕

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