Loyality Vs morality - Page 3

Originally posted by: _charu_

Ana, you didnt hear him. He went into a trance..it's.not his fault..he came back to take.him to the hospital. If needed he will also keep solah somvaar for anurags health.

Can we have a constitution change please for mr bajaj. Hit and run should be changed to hit and come back after sometime which should be pardonable.

BOld: Not to worry charu, CVs are already busy at the drawing board making this very clause. By Monday thumhara wish pura hojaeygi.

Originally posted by: Ananya05

I am sorry, but you are defending bajaj's self defence because he was afraid of getting lynched?

This whole agitated mob situation wouldn't have come if he had shown the humanity to get out of the car and helping the victim instead of sitting in his car. What was he expecting that he would just keep waiting there and mob would greet him?

If mob fear was a valid argument , hit and run would never have been a crime. You hit, you run coz you fear the mob all in the name of Self preservation.

No.. It is weird. I am a classic case of giving into impulses and then dragging my ego into this. The truth is, it doesn't matter how well our arguments are, whether my argument of self preservation is valid or not. Why Bajaj went into a trance there and why Anurag was standing in the middle of the road? KZK is a ridiculous show and this Akhriwar is a stupid track, meant to establish PreRish dynamic, while trying to keep the other fandom happy too. The accident itself was ridiculous on many levels. This is on the creatives. By next week, we'll see that the accident didn't happen at all..😅 Or at least that's what the police officer was hinting at 🙄. So I think it's better that the track plays out. That's all I wanted to say.. Let's not judge now.

Peace..🖖

Originally posted by: aryapdane

No.. It is weird. I am a classic case of giving into impulses and then dragging my ego into this. The truth is, it doesn't matter how well our arguments are, whether my argument of self preservation is valid or not. Why Bajaj went into a trance there and why Anurag was standing in the middle of the road? KZK is a ridiculous show and this Akhriwar is a stupid track, meant to establish PreRish dynamic, while trying to keep the other fandom happy too. The accident itself was ridiculous on many levels. This is on the creatives. By next week, we'll see that the accident didn't happen at all..😅 Or at least that's what the police officer was hinting at 🙄. So I think it's better that the track plays out. That's all I wanted to say.. Let's not judge now.

Peace..🖖

Or he wasn't the one to do that? Yet another flashback. With Bajaj taking the accusation to protect someone? 😆 Gosh, I've ranted a lot on the accident thing. What would I say to myself if CVs make popat of me? 😆

Who exactly are these mahaan writers? Anybody knows? 😆

Originally posted by: SheAish

Ummm you can corroborate with any of your buddies who have watched the show from the beginning....Nothing has been shown of Anurag even knowing Bajaj before he came after Basu company which you yourselves mention here.

Now if you choose to give more leverage to a back story of Bajaj that may or may not have anything to do with Anurag or Basus then its your prerogative. I choose to go by what has been shown so far....Deal?

As for loving and defending a stalking, manhandling, obsessive woman-hitter.....LOL Yeah we are funny like that...because we hold everyone who do the same things to same standards which is why we used to LOVE Pre too despite that she stalked, woman-handled, and behaved obsessive with Anurag during Anukom marriage. Oh and Pre actually has hit Anu more times than Anu and never even apologized which Anu did right after hitting her once...But we also understand WHY both of them did all those things with each other.....just like you seem to understand Bajaj.

So far, what ever Pre and Anu have done to each other as lovers are totally incomparable to Bajaj's blackmail of Pre, withholding crucial evidence against an ongoing murder case, and hit and run where the injured was left in a pool of blood on the road side.....IN MY OPINION. You are welcome to yours. And I'll agree to disagree here with you.

Since I think we are both now clear on where we stand and agree to disagree I'll end our discussion here.

Firstly, I didn't suggest Anurag knew Bajaj or of Bajaj. But clearly, Molly Basu knows him. Can't and won't ever defend Prerna. Never did actually so I'm clarifying that. I would be so happy if RB got his own show and a new love interest that actually had a personality. And you're right. It's futile to even argue about the opinions we have on fictional characters and their actions 🤭.

Peace 🖖

Originally posted by: aryapdane

Coming to the so called 'hit and run', he only "ran" because he realised the mob was getting violent and agitated. And he didn't want to be lynched. Is self preservation a vice? Then it's a vice that I'd like everyone to have. And choosing to confront a situation that will surely be physically harmful if not life threatening isn't bravery but plain stupidity. Also, all fault lies with the driver always, no? Pedestrians have no duties? How is Anurag getting a clean bill for stopping in the middle of the road, seeing a car come at him and not doing anything to get out of the way?

Are you kidding ??? You are saying when people run over people and den run away widout helping ......den the injured person is at fault ???!!!?!!!

Fine just for argument sake.....lets say it was all pedestrian Anurag's fault . Still how can you leave a bleeding person on the road knowing that he might be dead because he collided with your car.

I once had a colleague who once had a bird come out of nowhere in front of his windshield . Even though it wasn't a human being he still took the bird and got it proper treatment. Dts humanity.....basic humanity.

And running away from mob ??? Lol what a lame reason. A person has to be downright selfish ,inhumane to think of getting beaten by a mob when another person is bleeding to death.

Also if a driver who hits a person by mistake helps that injured by his own will....mob will understand.

When people with criminal backgrounds can have fans then why not Bajaj. Liking a character doesn't mean you hv to defend every action of his as right.

Originally posted by: IAdoreYou

Or he wasn't the one to do that? Yet another flashback. With Bajaj taking the accusation to protect someone? 😆 Gosh, I've ranted a lot on the accident thing. What would I say to myself if CVs make popat of me? 😆

Who exactly are these mahaan writers? Anybody knows? 😆

God.. and I'm embarrassed af right now because I am literally fighting over somebody else's mess. The CVs might just do that. There were strong hints. The inspector was going on and on about collecting evidence. And asked Shivi how she could simply believe what people told her..

Woh toh sab soch rahe hain. Kaun hai yeh log.

Originally posted by: _charu_

I am at loss of words try to reason it out now..it's so tiring and meaningless too..fine he did a mistake and it was unintentional and his wife bought the explanation. But when by his own admission he caused the accident by speeding the car in rage , why doesn't he surrender to the police and tell them the truth ? Oh ! He is not a saint who would wanna go to jail right or tried for hit and run ? This could be the excuse or all criminals that it wasn't intentional. It wasn't, yet as per law they have to face trial.

Whether he came back or not, he flees from there means it is a hit and run case. The charges should be more serious .... .

And last ,the lamest argument, What was anurag doing there..Whatever he was doing, nobody had the justification to run him over..just for a moment imagine if its your loved one in his place and he did a "mistake " of listening to a phone in the middle of the road and he gets run over by a car? Mr bajaj's mistake is a mistake but for anurags mistake he should be crushed because Mr bajaj got angry while driving? Oh. Bajaj is not a saint but anurag is so all the rules are for anurag .like he shouldn't be stalking and irritating his ex but bajaj can get away with murder because he says he is not a saint . Prerna is lucky. As if anurag was in the middle of the road because he wanted to be killed.

All I'm saying is how can someone who hit someone and let that person to die be justified ??? Pre who says Anu is her soulmate just described her husband's inhumane act towards that same person as justifiable because she is a loyal wife ????

And dis is being praised too. I don't care who supports whom .......for me Prerna is an enabler for Mr Bajaj's wrongdoings .

Originally posted by: braveheartdoc

Good topic to discuss right in the morning 😛😆

Coming to the topic I would say for me hit and run deserves punishment and he ought to face it whatever be the circumstances, anger or enmity between them. This kind of behaviour isn't acceptable just bcoz he said he is not a saint. That doesn't give him a licence to kill.

Regarding Prerna nothing much to say and expect from her as she is easily the worst written FL of ITV. So no comments on her.

I read reference to the movie Tum Bin in the thread. There it wasn't a situation where the person sped up just bcoz he was angry with the other one. Also there was a proper redemption track shown where Shekhar earned forgiveness for himself from Amar' s family not whitewashed saying that everything is fair for a person who isn't a saint.

So there is a difference between whitewash and redemption. Here if they go for a proper redemption track of Bajaj and then Prerna falls in love with him then I have no issues but this whitewash is what I'm not able to justify and accept. So it clearly shows the desperation of the writers to show him as a good human being so that the romantic track can start soon. But this rush is what is causing the downfall totally.

Whatever wrong might have been done to him in the past it can't justify his current deeds. Also if he is justified bcoz of xyz reasons then even Anurag will be justified to do anything with him as his life too has been destroyed. But just bcoz he said he is not a saint doesn't give him a free pass.

So for me he deserves to be punished in the court of law for hit and run.

Lol 😂

Wanted to post the topic early but work interuppted.

@ bold : Exactly. So easy for anyone to say I'm not a saint so I can do anything and don't hv to be responsible for it.

Agreed . Prerna is d worst written female lead I hv come across in years . This accident thing just finished whatever lil I thought abt her .

About Tum Bin..... exactly. That's what I hv been saying too. Also Shekhar did check on Amar the instant the accident happened. I don't get why d comparison.

Originally posted by: DaffodilsNew

Are you kidding ??? You are saying when people run over people and den run away widout helping ......den the injured person is at fault ???!!!?!!!

Fine just for argument sake.....lets say it was all pedestrian Anurag's fault . Still how can you leave a bleeding person on the road knowing that he might be dead because he collided with your car.

I once had a colleague who once had a bird come out of nowhere in front of his windshield . Even though it wasn't a human being he still took the bird and got it proper treatment. Dts humanity.....basic humanity.

And running away from mob ??? Lol what a lame reason. A person has to be downright selfish ,inhumane to think of getting beaten by a mob when another person is bleeding to death.

Also if a driver who hits a person by mistake helps that injured by his own will....mob will understand.

When people with criminal backgrounds can have fans then why not Bajaj. Liking a character doesn't mean you hv to defend every action of his as right.

See my dear.. like I said in my post. Everyone has a different set of values and morals. I know that there is no way Bajaj can undo his actions right after the accident. He went into shock.. which is completely understandable reaction. Then for good or bad, chose to drive away because he chose self preservation over chivalry. That's done. Nothing can change that. He made the decision. Now we have all gone through this. We sometimes behave in a way we're not proud of. Now I wouldn't have been sympathetic if not for his subsequent actions. He stopped the car because he felt guilty for not helping Anurag. He went back. He acquired information from the shopkeeper about Anurag and found out he'd been taken to the hospital. Went to the police station to report the accident. Came home to explain to his wife. And even offered to inform the Basus about the accident when he found out that they didn't know. He was remorseful of his actions throughout. He went to the Basus to apologize.

I'm sorry but what must be understood about his character is that he's grey. He has some good qualities and some vices. He acts in selfish ways. He has his own twisted code of morals. But please don't charge him of being inhuman. Because he'd be inhuman if he wasn't remorseful. He regrets his wrong actions.

I don't defend all his actions. I just forgive him for his bad actions because I can't judge him based on my morals and values.

Originally posted by: aryapdane

See my dear.. like I said in my post. Everyone has a different set of values and morals. I know that there is no way Bajaj can undo his actions right after the accident. He went into shock.. which is completely understandable reaction. Then for good or bad, chose to drive away because he chose self preservation over chivalry. That's done. Nothing can change that. He made the decision. Now we have all gone through this. We sometimes behave in a way we're not proud of. Now I wouldn't have been sympathetic if not for his subsequent actions. He stopped the car because he felt guilty for not helping Anurag. He went back. He acquired information from the shopkeeper about Anurag and found out he'd been taken to the hospital. Went to the police station to report the accident. Came home to explain to his wife. And even offered to inform the Basus about the accident when he found out that they didn't know. He was remorseful of his actions throughout. He went to the Basus to apologize.

I'm sorry but what must be understood about his character is that he's grey. He has some good qualities and some vices. He acts in selfish ways. He has his own twisted code of morals. But please don't charge him of being inhuman. Because he'd be inhuman if he wasn't remorseful. He regrets his wrong actions.

I don't defend all his actions. I just forgive him for his bad actions because I can't judge him based on my morals and values.

@ bold : sorry d act nowhere fits the term. Chivalry is the polite behaviour that men keep towards women or are expected to.

This was basic humanity. If I see a person lying on the road wounded it's my moral responsibility to help dt person as a human being.

Sorry but I don't agree. It was inhumane act for me. You can say Bajaj is not inhumane .....I would agree but the act was. It shows a complete absence of morality to me. Both his and Prerna's action.