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Posted: 6 years ago

Originally posted by: tantal

This struck me as so odd. Here is a 17 yr old being lambasted and taunted in public that she will no longer be important in her parent's life after their marriage and no one in the family thinks it important to stand by her? Reassure her? Give her shoulders a squeeze that things will be okay? Everyone was upstairs tending to Babe's feelings. Sometimes I feel the writers forget who is the teenager and who is adult in the show

They didn't forget, they are showing us that this is exactly the problem. Also they are addressing the self-doubt that parents often go through when they remarry as they worry about failing as a parent.

Glad at least HS called Minnie to join them upstairs. He did not forget her

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Posted: 6 years ago

I was touched that despite all the insecurities Minnie's feeling about her place in her parents' lives, she said dhain, subconsciously. So on one hand Khatri was effectively questioning her bond with HS and on another we got to see her take yet another step closer to being his daughter.

Brilliant writing!

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Posted: 6 years ago

Originally posted by: shruti_luvs_msk

i just watched the episode again. the family scene and how HS conveys all his love in 1 sentence and babita does the same.

how babita looks at HS asking him to assure mini. and when he says taht his veer balika will always be a priority for him, even more than babita, the look of love and contentment on her face was mind blowing. what more a mother wants, that her second husband can love and care for her daughter more than he cares for his new wife.

and how she says that she is even ready to break the shaadi and HS has an understanding look on his face.

so beautiful

He would also call it off for Minnie's sake if he had to.

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Posted: 6 years ago

Originally posted by: Mishti_Dahi

Exactly my point. And it's okay to be weak. It's okay to cry. Itna load nahi lena chahiye life mein. Everything isn't perfect. And it can never be.

When she said her Babes needs her - and the way she told that, it was like reassuring herself that yes, Babes needs her. That's her way of processing her position in Babita's life. What happens the day Babita doesn't need her? Is she unwanted? No. And that is exactly what she needs to understand.

Not only that, she needs to realize and accept that she can't be there for her Babes 24/7 and that's completely alright. Her mother can take care of herself, and besides HS hai na?

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Posted: 6 years ago

Originally posted by: LoveInAutumn26

Somethings:

I hated hated when Kammo said that Mini will always remind Babita of Ashok and she will start to resent Mini. That is abosofkinglutely not true and so insensitive for her to say😡

I hated when Kammo said HS used Mini to get Babita. Again, we all know this is not how it happened at all.

Loved the morning scene between Hanita. Loved it when Babita said “mein kya karsakti hoon apki nervousness hatane ke liye”... aww she’s so cute

@bold this was a particularly huge insult to him and his love for Minnie and Babita, especially considering she's supposed to be his sister since raksha bandhan. Does a sister even say or think such things about her brother?

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Posted: 6 years ago

Originally posted by: Mishti_Dahi

Why do they tap on emotions like this?

Ughhhhh. They're literally surfacing up things I've made peace with. What's with them picking up such intricate slices of life?😆

This is their specialty, in case you haven't noticed in 200+ episodes. 😆

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Posted: 6 years ago

Originally posted by: Mishti_Dahi

Btw Mini said dhaaein today! Hahahaha such a HS thing to do. Jean - khush toh bohot honge aap😆

Was just writing about this in another post. Brilliantly placed in that scene, considering what had happened.

Kyon? Aap khush na ho ke?

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Posted: 6 years ago

Originally posted by: Mishti_Dahi

I'm so so done with all the dancing and naach gaana now. Bass khatam karo ab and please give me back my daily routines. My eyes are sore of watching these heavy kapde and naach baje everyday. Bass hogaya bhai ab😆

Dances? My eyes are sore from the gaudy decorations! Heck even HS had to navigate his way to his balcony, and I don't blame him.

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Posted: 6 years ago

Originally posted by: asmaanixx

I don't think I will do such a good job. Jean or AY will be able to handle it much better.

And yet your bullet points ripped a hole in my heart.

Stupid pun, I know but it was a brilliant post.

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Posted: 6 years ago

Originally posted by: asmaanixx

Thoughts:

Gur Meri Jaan .. 🤗

My heart went out to Kammo today. She isn't blind to Khatri's actions. She was the first one to run to him and tell him to stop making a scene and was trying to maintain some level of peace. It's not her fault that Khatri went out of line and started making crude comments about Minnie.

Just unfortunate that she is married to him and will always have to bear the brunt of his misdeeds

What really ticked her off was when Babita said, "Inn ghatiya logon ko invitation kisne kiya?"

Exactly !!

Despite their shaky past, Kammo came to not only like Babita but also respect her. That respect got extended to HS as well as she tied a rakhi onto him and made him her brother. Babita calling her "ghatiye" dismissed all of Kammo's feelings and the relationship she had tried to create with them. She had genuinely believed that regardless of how Khatri behaved with them, at least she can have an independent relationship with them. And changing Khatri's mentality isn't something that's going to happen overnight. It's going to take time and she genuinely tries every chance she gets. Her efforts, however, were once again ignored.

And she earned that respect in return too .. @Bold: Yes, it was the relationship that they infact did share, not just hope .. But Khatri's dirty words and in return Babita's anger threw that relationship out of the window .. Both of them doing more collateral damage than the other ..

So Kammo transformed her hurt into anger and lashed back onto Babita, Minnie and HS. She repeatedly told them that she isn't blind to Khatri's actions. She can see and understand everything. However, as she said her respect is intermingled with Khatri's. If people gossip or talk shit about him, it's going come back at her. If she walks in society, they're obviously going to point her out and talk about her. There have been many times that Minnie has said mean things about Khatri and while they may be right, she didn't take into consideration how it might hurt Kammo. He is after all her husband. She had once said that if he doesn't mend his ways then she'll leave him, but will she actually go through with it? Does she have that kind of courage? If I remember correctly, she has a child too. Will that child be willing to go with her like Minnie did? I don't think so. If she does leave, then would her maayka accept/support her or will she also have to find a place of her own to live?

No matter what .. even now in societal terms .. he is her husband .. good or bad .. she is tied to him .. has her family, child with him .. and most importantly she is not Babita to walk out on him .. This encompasses 90% of women in our society today ..

In regards to the whole spectacle that took place, Khatri was the least effected by it. He got drunk, spewed his venom, and then just stood to the side watching all the drama unfold. He got what he wanted: he rattled this so called "perfect, happy family" and pinched some really raw nerves. They may have stood as a united front in front of everyone but in their absence, these same questions are going to haunt them in their post married life.

True .. very true .. it will come back to haunt/pinch them after the dust has settled ..

If anything, I think Minnie might get hung up on the point that she'll be a constant reminder of Ashok and what he did to Babes. As a result, she might feel guilty and feel even more responsible for wanting to keep Babes happy.

She is her pet project after all .. she has been so preoccupied with keeping babes happy and now this wedding .. where on earth was she going to find time to think for herself .. but yeah post wedding all 3 will be trying hard to keep each other happy and will suffer in the process too

Thoroughly enjoyed Ashnoor's acting when she put on a front of being happy. Mickey of course saw right through it. He knows Minnie was hurt by what went down and just wanted her to express it. It was a bit unusual for her to not get angry and release her frustration. Usually she's quick to point out what's bothering her. This time around she kept quiet partially because she knows Mickey knows her too well. If she speaks, then she just won't stop and right now was not the right time for her to break down. She had to be strong for her Babes.

He has been constantly there for her .. like a true friend .. like a silent lover .. like HS .. And she has started to pick up on his hints and realize the brewing storm .. but either she is deliberately denying (due to her babes wedding/happiness) or she is afraid to face it (fear of losing her babes) .. either case .. her breakdown is imminent and coming soon ..

Mickey's concern for her is quite ominous. The continual advises he has been giving her makes it seem as if he has seen someone else go through this exact same thing before and it didn't end well. Thus, for her sake, he's constantly trying to prevent her from going over the deep end.

Dont know if there is a backstory for Mickie .. but to me it felt he truly cared/loved her and hence is being there for her .. plus he is subconsciously getting groomed by HS.. so somewhere he too is thinking like HS .. You could be right too

Both Hanita declared Minnie being first for them. That for her sake, they're willing to sacrifice their own desires and happiness. On one hand it's sweet, on the other I find it bitter as well. It's sweet that they love Minnie so much. Her well being, and her happiness means everything to them. It's also bitter because they're putting everything on hold for her. It almost gives the sense that they need her permission to do every little thing. Marriage is a huge step, that too a second one. Having Minnie's approval was crucial to ensure that they function as a cohesive and happy unit in the future. But what if they want to start a family of their own in the future? Are they going to ask Minnie for her opinion about it or will they just go ahead and do it? What if it ends up being a surprise pregnancy? I know Minnie will be beyond thrilled about having a younger sibling but what if in the off chance she says no? Will they give up their own child? For HS, it'll be his first baby, and for Babita, it'll be a child that was made out of pure love. Will she be willing to give that up?

I am going to disagree slightly here .. to me .. HS is selfless enough to put others above his needs and Minnie is also selfless to not be happy to have another sibling .. For both hs-babes, Minnie has infact come first in their lives before they entered each others..

Those dilemmas are for bigger things. How about for smaller incidents like the sharing of a pizza? Will Minnie start feeling neglected if Hanita decide to do things on their own? Like late night walks, having private conversations, HS confiding in Babita about all his past trauma?

@Bold: Yes, she will feel neglected but then not giving them enough space will also gnaw her and make her feel even more guilty .. it will be catch 22 ..

On one hand, no she won't because her parents deserve some alone time and there are some things that only Babes will be able to understand. What about Babes' issues? It's only reasonable for Babes to go to HS with all her problems now. Moreover, Babes has that "don't be sad in front of Minnie" seed sowed into her head too. She will be more reluctant to share her worries with her and will hence gravitate towards HS instead. What will Minnie do now? She had made it her mission in life to keep Babes happy at all cost. Now that she's completed it, what's next? What is in store for Minnie after Babes? I doubt she'll want Babes to continuously undergo problems just so that she can save her. But if she doesn't have this, then what does she have?

Yes that's what is going to happen .. she will be going to HS for more mature problems .. regular routine stuff, they will not ignore Minnie .. but Minnie's own guilt won't help the situation either ..

Thoroughly enjoyed the balcony scene. HS glancing around, perhaps to find Babita, or perhaps to make sure no one saw him was cute. Their overall conversation was adorable as well. Babita had taken matters into a more serious territory but I liked how easily HS turned it around into something light. I especially appreciated how openly Babita laughed at his joke. As they're getting closer to be unified, they're becoming more open and relaxed with one another.

he realized that Babita is still carrying that guilt of marrying 2nd time at this age .. but HS being HS put up a facade and turned it towards lighter side to averted her worries ..

Today, Babes openly asked HS what she could do to ease his nervousness but when the subject of his mother would arise, she'll have to figure things out on her own. She'll have to listen to his heart both literally and figuratively. Whatever screams and wails are haunting the child inside of him, she'll have to soothe him. It also prepped the idea that Babita is ready to help HS on his journey of self-reconciliation. She may need a little guidance, but she'll be able to handle it.

Yes this is the beginning of stepping up .. preparing to reach a level where she can help HS reconcile with his mother's past ..

On a more serious side, I have a fear that one day Minnie is going to have a mental breakdown. It hasn't even been a full year and she has had to go through so much psychologically and emotionally. A trip back to the therapist is sorely needed. If not that, then at least a scene where she lets all her thoughts, the good, the bad, and the ugly, out. It'll be great if Mickey is there to witness it as he'll be able to guide her best. (First choice will be HS obviously, but Mickey is the second best.)

Yes, the symptoms are all there .. and it is going to happen .. I would actually love if HS is the one who takes her there .. but it is Mickey who is consistently with her ..

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