Hanuman's emotions for Babita - Page 6

Originally posted by: AreYaar

Exactly. There's a few things that really strike me about this.....a couple of days back, there was a scene when Babita was sitting in her room upset and he comes to cheer her up...he asks her itne pyar se, "Manne bhi na bataaoge kyun udaas ho?"......and in that moment, I thought....this is deffo going to loop back to him at some point.....Babita is going to ask him just like he's asking her....."Won't you even tell me what's in your heart?"

He's trying to draw her out, help her develop that trust to share everything with him....he craves that she share her thoughts and emotions with him.....very soon, she is going to crave the same from him....she already does, but right now, her own issues are front and center.....but once the dust settles on those a bit, this is the first thing she will crave from Hanuman....that he trust her enough to open up to her too....about Imarti, about his childhood, his past, everything.

There's a reason he gave Imarti's things to Babita for safekeeping, for her to use....that was him tentatively reaching out.....but what he couldn't handle was Babita interpreting that haq to use as leverage with him when he wouldn't give up drinking....because there were other complicated emotions mixed up there.....but bottom line toh yehi thi that Babita wanted to exercise her right as lady of the house which she felt he was somewhat giving her by giving her Imarti's things....instead, she struck a raw nerve by bringing up Imarti.....so they both need to talk through this....how Babita makes her place as lady of the house in his home, in his heart.....it's one thing to want it....it's another thing to see it in action.....lol it will bring a lot of angles to it....there are still things churning inside him that need reconciliation and he needs to let Babita in properly for that to get worked out....otherwise she will work with whatever interpretation she can manage in the interim.

What's really important is that once upon a time he had given them a place to live in "Imart's haveli" and now it is Babita's haveli, she's the makaan maalkin. What a major step it was for him!

I also think HS' anger about the drinking was partly towards Babita expecting some haq but not giving him any or not giving him a clear signal. It frustrated him when he pointed out that tenant-landlord had limits and she still didn't relax the boundaries but wanted to play it safe yet make demands within those boundaries. That frustrating lakshman-rekha.

Babita will have to deal with this at one point regarding the rekha HS has drawn where Imarti is concerned. Those issues are very deep and they still hurt him. He's just pushing them away for now.

I hope not. I think he feels sad that she has suffered a dies not want her to suffer again, which is why he helps where he can, but does tell her when she is wrong etc.

Originally posted by: inlieu

Not just that, he has to stop excessively worrying about her being hurt or unable to handle his raw emotions to the point where he suffocates her with his over-protectiveness. Sorry to keep harping on this but I feel this is going to blow up at some point.

Perhaps it needs to blow up for him to realize that he can’t keep treating Babita like a china doll.

In Babita’s case also, she only realizes her mistakes after things blow up badly like they did in the Poonam case. HS isn’t going to realize this is an issue until him and Babita have an argument or confrontation about it.

One more thing. HS' picture on the cake confirmed to me that even the PH has changed scope slightly to include HS perspective full on and not just a character who is there to only support mother-daughter, so now I feel they will show his journey in detail. It's not going to be pretty.

Yaar, I can't see him crying anymore. The Imarti track was so hard to watch.

Originally posted by: inlieu

What's really important is that once upon a time he had given them a place to live in "Imart's haveli" and now it is Babita's haveli, she's the makaan maalkin. What a major step it was for him!

I also think HS' anger about the drinking was partly towards Babita expecting some haq but not giving him any or not giving him a clear signal. It frustrated him when he pointed out that tenant-landlord had limits and she still didn't relax the boundaries but wanted to play it safe yet make demands within those boundaries. That frustrating lakshman-rekha.

Babita will have to deal with this at one point regarding the rekha HS has drawn where Imarti is concerned. Those issues are very deep and they still hurt him. He's just pushing them away for now.

That’s a valid point too....they both dance around letting each other have the haq, and then use that very point as an argument to taunt each other. Lol this is what happens with repressed and unresolved feelings.

And that is why they chart this journey in small steps, not a giant leap to resolve this complicated haq issue in one go.

They are both opening up bit by bit. As you said, him giving ownership of the haveli to Babita after calling it Imarti ki haveli for so long was a significant step.

Just like that, slowly but steadily he will have to become Babita ka Hanuman.

It’s human to try to compartmentalize or brush aside things that hurt you....so it’s understandable why HS does the same many times to avoid coping with painful memories and complications.

Perhaps Babita can make him understand that facing the pain is what ultimately sets you free from it. As long as you have love to carry you though, and he has to let her in for her to give him that.

Originally posted by: AreYaar

Perhaps it needs to blow up for him to realize that he can’t keep treating Babita like a china doll.

In Babita’s case also, she only realizes her mistakes after things blow up badly like they did in the Poonam case. HS isn’t going to realize this is an issue until him and Babita have an argument or confrontation about it.

Perhaps that is the best way, for them to reach that point of explosion and then just out their anger and repressed feelings. Otherwise, I just don't see HS himself taking the initiative to open up about these things. Being a life partner does not only mean being there for your spouse, but also letting them be there for you, it's give and take.

Originally posted by: inlieu

One more thing. HS' picture on the cake confirmed to me that even the PH has changed scope slight to include HS perspective full on and not just a character who is there to only support mother-daughter, so no I feel they will show his journey in detail. It's not going to be pretty.

Yaar, I can't see him crying anymore. The Imarti track was so hard to watch.

Lol were people actually presuming HS is a supporting character? 😆

Does only being on a poster decide his value? I dunno, but to me, it was obvious from his entry scene only that he will be a central character along with B and M.

Ofcourse the core of the story is mother-daughter ki journey but he is clearly intertwined irrevocably with their life now so obviously his story will be explored in many shades. Like HS said a few epis back, uski kismat Babita ki kismat se jud chuki hai....and there are so many layers in his character that Ofcourse the writers will explore them further...especially because everything has parallels to M and B’s lives.

Originally posted by: AreYaar

That’s a valid point too....they both dance around letting each other have the haq, and then use that very point as an argument to taunt each other. Lol this is what happens with repressed and unresolved feelings.

And that is why they chart this journey in small steps, not a giant leap to resolve this complicated haq issue in one go.

They are both opening up bit by bit. As you said, him giving ownership of the haveli to Babita after calling it Imarti ki haveli for so long was a significant step.

Just like that, slowly but steadily he will have to become Babita ka Hanuman.

It’s human to try to compartmentalize or brush aside things that hurt you....so it’s understandable why HS does the same many times to avoid coping with painful memories and complications.

Perhaps Babita can make him understand that facing the pain is what ultimately sets you free from it. As long as you have love to carry you though, and he has to let her in for her to give him that.

Totally agree. As I was saying in another post, HS will have to come to terms with what kind of husband he will be to Babita. Not just in the legal, social, or material sense but also how much he lets her in without babying her or worrying about repercussions. He doesn't want to upset the apple cart but that can't go on forever. I agree that he compartmentalizes and that is the mechanism he has come up with to deal with pain over the years, about his mother, his father, his grandfather, Imarti, and now mother-daughter.

I also have a feeling that once the cloud of self-doubt is gone from Babita's mind she will see things more clearly and begin to notice that HS still suffers inside. Just like wanting to help Minnie during her depression gave Babita the push to step up and be there for her daughter, seeing glimpses of HS' pain will give her the push to step up and be the partner that he needs, so that he can feel she is ready for him to offload some of his pain.

Originally posted by: AreYaar

Lol were people actually presuming HS is a supporting character? 😆

Does only being on a poster decide his value? I dunno, but to me, it was obvious from his entry scene only that he will be a central character along with B and M.

Ofcourse the core of the story is mother-daughter ki journey but he is clearly intertwined irrevocably with their life now so obviously his story will be explored in many shades. Like HS said a few epis back, uski kismat Babita ki kismat se jud chuki hai....and there are so many layers in his character that Ofcourse the writers will explore them further...especially because everything has parallels to M and B’s lives.

Yeah many people used to think he was a supporting character, whose only purpose was to coach mother-daughter, so we only lightly knew his back story. I had always been intrigued, though, so I was extremely pleased that they spent the time revealing his childhood, his trauma, his concept of penance, etc. and his perspective on why he decided to help them from the beginning. It was very important to understand that side of him.

No, simply being on the poster doesn't decide his value but I think it is a telling change from the PH's side. I honestly don't think they'd every dreamed HS would be a runaway hit (and neither did Aniruddh). That just gave them the avenue to explore his character in more depth. It is the belief of many here, including me, that they had given every character a proper back story and set up their past, which helped define how they have appeared on the show and how the actors have portrayed the many layers. This is why as they reveal new layers to each character it doesn't appear contrived.

For me, I have always seen it as a story of the trio, but the poster just puts it out there, you know. It could also signify that yes, mother-daughter started out on their own journey of self-discovery as they left home. They were enough for one another, but before they knew it HS sneaked into their lives and made a place in their hearts that no one had ever expected, and now he is a part of them as they are a part of him.

Originally posted by: inlieu

Totally agree. As I was saying in another post, HS will have to come to terms with what kind of husband he will be to Babita. Not just in the legal, social, or material sense but also how much he lets her in without babying her or worrying about repercussions. He doesn't want to upset the apple cart but that can't go on forever. I agree that he compartmentalizes and that is the mechanism he has come up with to deal with pain over the years, about his mother, his father, his grandfather, Imarti, and now mother-daughter.

I also have a feeling that once the cloud of self-doubt is gone from Babita's mind she will see things more clearly and begin to notice that HS still suffers inside. Just like wanting to help Minnie during her depression gave Babita the push to step and be there for her daughter, seeing glimpses of HS' pain will give her push to step up and be the partner that he needs, so that he can feel she is ready for him to offload some of his pain.

This! I totally agree. This is what I feel will happen too given what we’ve seen of Babita’s personality. She can absolutely turn into a tigress for the ones she loves and wade through any pain to be there for them. She needs a push sometimes but once she makes up her mind, she tackles the challenge head on.