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Posted: 6 years ago

Originally posted by: annx

But then why make Hanuman suffer in a bad marriage to put across this message. A happy marriage and a happy Hanuman will give the same message...

Okay, I agree. But then it still implies that the problem was entirely Babita's in her first marriage. She wasn't able to keep Ashok happy and he was in a bad marriage. He decided to opt for EMA. On the other hand, Hanuman decides to suffer silently instead... I am sorry I still don't agree with the messaging or more like the way the message is being put across...

Also, then are we not justifying Ashok? because nothing really justifies EMA... not even a bad marriage...

The truth is that in real life, good people do get hurt, often through no fault of their own. You'd think that a man who has suffered the way HS has both in his childhood and because of losing Imarti, would get some respite. He has also been so lonely all these years, and finally with this new light in his life, we wanted him to have all the happiness in the world. Our CVs though, want to show that everything comes at a price and that life is not perfect.

No, two wrongs don't make a right. No matter what his marriage with Babita was like, EMA is never acceptable. I don't know what Babita was like with Ashok, especially the first 7 years before he met Meeta, they haven't shown us enough of that.

When I said men suffer in bad marriages, I was referring to HS, not Ashok. A lot of men do suffer mentally because they choose to remain married for the sake of their kids. I just don't want HS to go through with the marriage despite feeling unhappy, just for the sake of Minnie, and worse still to remain married to Babita because of Minnie. Not ideal.

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Posted: 6 years ago

Originally posted by: annx

But do you believe she will not grow... you think the writer will not show her growth but instead destroy her character more?

I don't know what they have in mind, but she has to take a few more falls before rising again, otherwise she can't be the heroine in her own story. Know what I mean? One day she will have to realize that not all things bad that happen around her are because of other people or kharaab kismat, some are her own doing too.

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Posted: 6 years ago

Originally posted by: asmaanixx

I'm actually thinking the opposite. If HS was a real person, then I would have been more worried as human beings are the most unpredictable creatures. There's no telling when or how they'll react to any given situation. However, because HS is fictional, and written by someone, there is a purpose to everything he does. There's a specific reason why he works in the police force. There was a reason why Imarti died in the way she died and the imprint it left on him. There's a reason why he carried the guilt of not helping his own mother out of an abusive relationship for so many years. There's a reason why no one questioned HS when he claimed himself to be Minnie's father.

It's rare for ITV to be so attentive to their characters, but in this case, there is a reason to every single thing. It's almost like reading a novel. Nothing has been added ainvayi. Even side characters like Khatri, Lala, Sardar Singh etc., they all have their own roles to play and with every dialogue and action, they move the story forward. They impact the major characters and place them in positions where they must take action or pause and reflect.

Patiala Babes is an absolute treasure and as an English Lit major, I am absolutely floored by how they are able to present their story in such an intricate and gorgeous manner.

Totally agree with you.

@bold

Tell me about it. This show can easily make it to required viewing lists.

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Posted: 6 years ago

Originally posted by: asmaanixx

And people need to start living their own life rather than through each other. For example, when Biji said, "fine, if we can't fulfill our desires through Babita and HS' wedding, we'll do it through Minnie's" and I'm just like TF????

B, you got your son AND daughter married. How many more wedding related desires do you even have???? Not to mention the way she tried to make herself and Dadu stand in as HS' parents. I got ticked off. Yes, HS doesn't have his biological parents around but he has his godh li hui maa - Naeem Bi and his bapu, urf FIL. Both who have known HS FAAARRRR longer than Biji has.

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Aap abhi bhi Beeji se naraaz ho?

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Posted: 6 years ago

Originally posted by: inlieu

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Aap abhi bhi Beeji se naraaz ho?

Ab? Yeh pucho ke mein kab naraz ni hoti. 🤣

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Posted: 6 years ago

Originally posted by: inlieu

I don't know what they have in mind, but she has to take a few more falls before rising again, otherwise she can't be the heroine in her own story. Know what I mean? One day she will have to realize that not all things bad that happen around her are because or other people or kharaab kismat, some are her own doing too.

This I understand...

And to an extent, I also understand Babita's ego and self-respect... I've been in a similar place and that why I talk about Babita going to one extreme of the spectrum only find the balance. She was at a point in life where she had forgotten what self-respect was. She was introduced to it at the age of 34/35... Now everything will be self-respect. Every tiny thing. It would take time for her to understand that there is a difference between self-respect and ego and sometimes, one needs to let go of things... especially when it comes to relationships... She will learn to let go... and she'll understand that you can't live life at one end (any) of a spectrum... you have to be in the centre.

BUT for a lot of reasons, I want a happy ending for Babita. A happy married life, with Hanuman. I am willing to endure the pain, as long as I get to see some growth... Her growth should start soon!

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Posted: 6 years ago

Great discussions 👍🏼.

I am gonna avoid the show for couple weeks now. I am glad actually because this show was consuming my life lol.

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Posted: 6 years ago

Originally posted by: inlieu

The truth is that in real life, good people do get hurt, often through no fault of their own. You'd think that a man who has suffered the way HS has both in his childhood and because of losing Imarti, would get some respite. He has also been so lonely all these years, and finally with this new light in his life, we wanted him to have all the happiness in the world. Our CVs though, want to show that everything comes at a price and that life is not perfect.

No, two wrongs don't make a right. No matter what his marriage with Babita was like, EMA is never acceptable. I don't know what Babita was like with Ashok, especially the first 7 years before he met Meeta, they haven't shown us enough of that.

When I said men suffer in bad marriages, I was referring to HS, not Ashok. A lot of men do suffer mentally because they choose to remain married for the sake of their kids. I just don't want HS to go through with the marriage despite feeling unhappy, just for the sake of Minnie, and worse still to remain married to Babita because of Minnie. Not ideal.

On the mark Jean ..

A friend of mine is going through the same - married to someone who lacks maturity and burdened by dragging the marriage & suffering .. Can neither stay with her nor leave her due to kids .. !!

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Posted: 6 years ago

Originally posted by: LoveInAutumn26

Great discussions 👍🏼.

I am gonna avoid the show for couple weeks now. I am glad actually because this show was consuming my life lol.

Lol I am in same boat too .. struggling between focusing on work vs my project .. I did neither .. instead focused on our discussions 🤣

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Posted: 6 years ago

I feel Babita's character has lost its beauty. In yesterdays episode during chunari scene i felt annoyed with Babita. Her search for HS seemed to be fake. I felt disconnected. Losing all the hopes about upcoming episode. No one is perfect in this world, par uske ego ke aage Babita ki sari qualities chhup gyi hain. I can't relate to her.

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