Basic Instinct - Page 3

Originally posted by: naq5

You have described babita very clearly. Some people are like that they cant stand up for themselves, cant stand up for others.

And there is mini who stood up for even meeta

And on the other hand there is hanuman singh who stood up for mother daughter not bothering about his job. back then he want even in love with babita or too attached to mini. Even then mini had gone to fight against her dad regarding the complaint. Babita did not do anything. she could have easily gone to commissioner and said that we are staying out of own will in hanumans house. She is just not upto it. i remember i was so pissed off that time. Like there is a man who is loosing his job supporting you. least you can do is go and tell that the accusations against him are wrong.

Hanuman is clearly trying to send both of them away as he is so unsure of his future. Ok what he said was very disrespectful to babita but she could have choosen to leave because of that, and still told him that she dosent believe he can kill someone. HS has done a lot for her and it was time for her to pay back now by supporting him. She dosent need to keep living in his house after what he said to her in the night or accept him as her life partner, but she can still stand by him as a friend by atleast believing in him

I agree and I am waiting for the story to unfold because Babita will be there for him ... This is her time to understand that she needs to think beyond whatever is limiting her ... As this court case will become a parellal of the older one ... I trust the makers in this case.

Originally posted by: blushing

Well I don't know this is related to topic or not

if anyone seen segment Paridhi told in our story daughter is doing all imp things strictly my opinion Paridhi look bit off saying this.....

I felt Writers giving little more imp to Minnie than Babita 🤔 or may be Babita's character still needs to grow more depth she comes out bit timid, escapist ( try run away from situation), self centered , quickly jump on conclusion person

with all her bitter past she has became like this or she is always been like this 😕

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yes Minnie's relation with Hanuman is totally different than Babita Hanuman can not compare

but like u said its basic nature of characters coming out

still I will wait for some episodes esp today's

Lol someone screen shot your post and posted on Twitter 😂. People in twitter are pissed that Pari is not getting enough screen time in this track and again all the focus is on Mini’s character.

Originally posted by: LoveInAutumn26

Lol someone screen shot your post and posted on Twitter 😂. People in twitter are pissed that Pari is not getting enough screen time in this track and again all the focus is on Mini’s character.

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Ok, this is the second time I'm trying to respond to your post and hope it doesn't crash on IF.

I completely agree with your fight vs. flight observation. I think Babita will have to learn that flight is not always the solution. The way she behaved is in line with her character so I wasn't surprised, though I wish she had the courage to say that she was leaving because of the humiliation and not because she didn't want to live under the same roof as a "murderer".

Yes, she needs to be backed into a corner before she rises up and fights her way out. It's not always going to help leaving things until the last moment. In this case, seeing HS embroiled in the trial and the potential of losing him if he gets punished, as we (and she) saw Sartaj threaten to do, is what's needed for her to wake up and do something abut it.

Minnie stands for what is right, but Babita is often unsure of what is right and what is not. She doesn't listen to her heart enough. It's just her nature and I hope she learns to do so as part of her journey towards true emancipation.

Yes, HS is the one who needs support, whether or not he realizes it or admits it. He's been so used to fighting things alone that I don't think he expects to have two lionesses to accompany him. In fact, I don't think he'd want them anywhere near him lest they burn in hell along with him.

I loved these lines in particular. The focus may be on HS' past but it's still about Babita's growth as she has to learn to deal with it, learn to push the boundaries for someone other than Minnie or herself.

Originally posted by: Cinnamon_Kisses

Lastly I would like to say that at this particular point of time in her life it is genuinely not about Babita's feelings for Hanuman. It is not about love, falling in love is something she has to learn. Before which she has to learn to live a life where she will speak as Babita and make her own decisions.

Originally posted by: Cinnamon_Kisses

The moment when Babita says "Ab main yaha nahi ruk sakti" and he says "Jaanta hu" along with all the while when Minnie was demanding answers and it took him every bit of restraint to gain control over himself made it clear that he knows mother and daughter inside out.

This is spot on and my observation too! When she said she'd leave, he felt that he had accomplished what he had set out to achieve: to drive them away.

He knows them so well that he can predict their reactions. He knew it would be hard to convince Minnie to leave so he took aim at Babita, in the hope that she would take her daughter as well.

Originally posted by: Cinnamon_Kisses

Do you remember when he said "Haath toh aap ki ore bhi badhaya thha" and "Haq toh aapne bhi naa diya" when they argued over sharaab ki botal. For me it explains some things like he had given an equal chance to both minnie and babita to become a part of his life ... Minnie took the chance and their bond is established but Babita has always stepped back, remained silent when the focus of any discussion become hanita and moreover chosen to remain conveniently confused about this topic. the very reason ... he wants to but he is not able to trust her right now.

That's it. Minnie has always pushed Babita to sieze opportunities, in this case she rejected HS, played safe and then built up all these notions about their story without doing anything to change the status quo. He has made it clear that he would follow whatever direction Babita wants to take and will respect the boundaries she has set. If she is unhappy with the state of things he expects her to say so and to change the boundaries again herself.

I always say that all this blowing hot and cold is enough to drive a man up the wall, even someone as patient as HS. And right now he's in a vulnerable state, unable to think as clearly as he usually does, yet he is trying to protect them both.

Originally posted by: inlieu

Ok, this is the second time I'm trying to respond to your post and hope it doesn't crash on IF.

I completely agree with your fight vs. flight observation. I think Babita will have to learn that flight is not always the solution. The way she behaved is in line with her character so I wasn't surprised, though I wish she had the courage to say that she was leaving because of the humiliation and not because she didn't want to live under the same roof as a "murderer".

Yes, she needs to be backed into a corner before she rises up and fights her way out. It's not always going to help leaving things until the last moment. In this case, seeing HS embroiled in the trial and the potential of losing him if he gets punished, as we (and she) saw Sartaj threaten to do, is what's needed for her to wake up and do something abut it.

You know during the whole court case I really want Babita to retrospect. She needs to think about Hanuman and Hanuman's importance in her life. I so wish we have a scene where she is looking in the mirror and realizing that she indeed is a weak person. I want dialogues on the line of "Main sachme unke laayak nahi Hoon"

Minnie stands for what is right, but Babita is often unsure of what is right and what is not. She doesn't listen to her heart enough. It's just her nature and I hope she learns to do so as part of her journey towards true emancipation.

Babita is mechanical. She doesn't think much because she has been told what to do since the begining. You know I feel her vibe and personality are yet to be revealed and that can happen when she starts speaking and thinking for herself.

Yes, HS is the one who needs support, whether or not he realizes it or admits it. He's been so used to fighting things alone that I don't think he expects to have two lionesses to accompany him. In fact, I don't think he'd want them anywhere near him lest they burn in hell along with him.

He was hoping for trust but nothing other than that. He wants to save Babita and Mini from his own self. I am so curious to know what exactly he means when he says "Mhaare se dur raho nahi toh Mhaare saath jaloge." He knows he can survive alone and so he is trying to. In the precap, he is not falling weak in front of Chautala Saab but he is feeling and falling weak looking at Babita.

Knowing how mature he is ... I feel he loves Babita because that woman can see through him on a soul level. It's just that she is not able to express it properly because of her own negative emotions.

I loved these lines in particular. The focus may be on HS' past but it's still about Babita's growth as she has to learn to deal with it, learn to push the boundaries for someone other than Minnie or herself.

Yes! Babita has to grow as a person and she will grow as a person after this. As I had said previously dealing with this real and vulnerable Hanuman will teach her how she will become her real self. A woman who has opinions, a woman who can help take a stand for what she feels is right. A woman who understands how much she is in love with Hanuman Singh.

I would love to hear her say: "Main sachme unke laayak nahi Hoon"

But I don't have high hopes of this happening. Her ego won't let her. 😆

As for "Mhaare se dur raho nahi toh Mhaare saath jaloge." he is afraid of all the backlash and the taunts, the airing of dirty laundry that they would witness. Especially for Minnie, who felt so much shame and humiliation because of what Ashok did, he doesn't want to do that to her again as a father this time. I also think during the trial some facets of the beast in him that he keeps locked up is bound to come out. He doesn't want them to see him like that.

I think there is a hugely violent, rough side to him that we haven't seen. He keeps it tightly controlled and he is afraid it might be unleashed, unintentionally harming mother-daughter. He is very concerned of the impact on Minnie's mental health and how she would feel seeing her role model endure all this.

"I feel he loves Babita because that woman can see through him on a soul level"

I don't see that yet, to be honest. Maybe I missed something but I don't know if she sees him at all. They have a dard ka rishta of some sorts, but sometimes I do wonder why he fell for her. Which of her qualities made her so appealing? Of course, some of it was the damsel in distress situation, a man like him would melt anyway. By helping her succeed he shared her journey and they bonded.

And sometimes you just fall for someone because you are attracted to them, just because. He had been a loner, and mother-daughter brought some light in his life, gave him a distraction from his memories. I still hold that it was her role as a mother and how it drove her to learn to slowly fight against the world that he admired. He had missed his own mother growing up, and seeing one in action, giving Minnie the love that she had missed out on from Ashok made him feel warm.