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Posted: 6 years ago
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Rant away because many of us will agree with you. 😆

I followed the teasers and promos because I wanted to watch the show for Arjit. Though I was did not like the idea of polygamy, I wanted to see how it would be shown.

The signs for Noor turning grey or complicated were there from the start but I never expected the writers to make her so dark or to kill Faiz and Yasmeen Khala so soon. They should have spent time after ShaZaan's wedding to explore the friendship and past enough for us to care more. I have written the same in another thread, I think. 😆

Azaan' balancing his love for Shayra and friendship Noor worked well in the beginning. The changing dynamics between the three would have made an interesting story.

The writers just went for shock and drama instead. No one wants to watch Noor blackmail Shayra and trap her with her own principles though. We also expecting more about Azaan and how his father left Razia Begum but the past was never shown except for a few scenes...

Edited by The_May_Rose - 6 years ago
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Posted: 6 years ago
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if fair was saved noor was not going to marry him she must be plotting something ferent .how could she agreed to marry Faiz so easily that was suspicious same as now she want marry poor Khalid. he is like bali ka bakra same as Faiz..

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: fria319

(Meant to quote Nora's post but pressed the wrong button- lol, oops)

No I agree that Shaira did the right thing by stepping in and stopping Khalid. My problem was when she gave him a punishment. For a character who is supposed to be so religious and knowledgeable about Islam, that's now how punishment rulings are given. Both sides need to be heard before a punishment (i.e. her telling him to leave the house, if I'm remembering correctly) is given. She never gave Khalid the chance to really explain what happened.

You're right that when you look at it from the perspective that Noor was never supposed to be a good character, then it really does become a plot where everyone else is the victim to her manipulations of the circumstances. She should have spoken up and said Khalid didn't actually molest her.

I think my problem is when I watch the show, I always consider the main leads to be good. I guess I just don't understand the need to make her grey when there's no substance behind her grey behavior. I don't like her as good character and I still don't like her as a grey character. LOL.

I'd rather have a grey character who's actually justified in her actions somehow, not just because she thinks she's justified. As a viewer, I can sympathize with grey/villain characters as long as there is logic behind their motivations. But right now, no matter which way its spun, Noor is just always wrong. PTSD/general shock/trauma/depression, isn't enough of a justification for me to sympathize with Noor right now. Are we just not supposed to sympathize with her? Do you guys think she's always going to remain evil/wrong/grey, etc? That definitely gives me less motivation to watch the show (because once again, I don't like how they're doing it) 🤔

I agree with this, in fact they have a done a better job with Asgar as a grey character, establishing his good and bad points, a threshold he won't cross. We can understand that Suraiya and Asgar act like this because they are treated like 2nd class citizens in their own home when Yasmin and Noor get everything, just because Yasmin was good at chamchagiri. I can understand their mindset.

I assume the problem most people are facing understanding the plot is that they were expecting something different from the promos. Colors and voot description gives a clear picture and that's how this story is progressing.

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: NoraSM

I agree with this, in fact they have a done a better job with Asgar as a grey character, establishing his good and bad points, a threshold he won't cross. We can understand that Suraiya and Asgar act like this because they are treated like 2nd class citizens in their own home when Yasmin and Noor get everything, just because Yasmin was good at chamchagiri. I can understand their mindset.

I assume the problem most people are facing understanding the plot is that they were expecting something different from the promos. Colors and voot description gives a clear picture and that's how this story is progressing.

I agree, they did do a much better job with Asgar & Suraiya.

You're right about the disconnect between promo and description. If I compare the promos to the plot description, it doesn't seem to really align. Promos suggested Azaan had to marry Noor because of noble reasons / forced situation without any indication of Noor & Shairya's side of things. While the noble situation seems like its happening in the show, as a viewer, who sees everything that Azaan doesn't see, it doesn't feel so noble. It just feels like Azaan is getting duped. But I guess... from Azaan's perspective he is doing the noble thing. Ugh, lol. I need to stop overthinking this show hahaha.

I remember the description described Noor as taking revenge on Shairya. I just assumed we'd get more reasoning behind Noor's revenge that made sense. Or she'd be "grey" without really being "grey" because she would have some sort of justification/motivation for her actions that a viewer would actually understand and that she'd be a character I love to hate. The ones where you know they're bad but you're lowkey rooting for them anyway lol. Right now, there's nothing that's happening that makes me want to continue liking Noor as a character. I don't know if the writers intend to keep it that way for the entire duration of the show or not. Time will tell I guess.

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Posted: 6 years ago
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More bad news everyone.

http://www.serialgossip.com/gossip-41123-a

http://www.serialgossip.com/gossip-41124-a

The site is mostly accurate. If they actually separate Azaan and Shayra I will never expect anything good from this show ever again. I am neutral as a viewer and even accepted the fact that they will eventually show Azaan having two wives, but this feels so wrong. Making Azaan hate Shayra just for Noor to have her way...

Edited by The_May_Rose - 6 years ago
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Posted: 6 years ago
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I completely lost interest in the show from when they made Noor grey. What I didnt like was that they made Noor act obsessed towards Azaan and asking Azaan from Shayra. They could have showed Noor-Azaan as best friends and Shayra-Azaan as husband-wife. I dont think they will show about Azaan having two wives now, it seems Azaan-Noor is the endgame. n frankly speaking Noor doesnt deserve Azaan.

These makers want us to have sympathy for Shayra and Noor, but instead I m having more sympathy for Azaan and Khalid. Khalid is being made the bali ka bakra in this situation, like Noor is using Khalid and I dont like that. Khalid is mentally unstable and he needs help, and worse he has such pathetic parents who doesnt care about him, especially the mom. I think if Khalid cures he wont be an evil person unless if he goes on his mom. Azaan is also being used here, like Shayra was right Azaan is not some toy, and this Shayra shld stop acting mahaan now. Yeah she promised Noor's mom but there r so many other ways she can keep Noor happy. For now Noor needs a therapy to get out of depression and Khalid needs treatment. But they will never show this in ITV shows. Azaan-Shayra as a pair did had potential.

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: The_May_Rose

More bad news everyone.

http://www.serialgossip.com/gossip-41123-a

http://www.serialgossip.com/gossip-41124-a

The site is mostly accurate. If they actually separate Azaan and Shayra I will never expect anything good from this show ever again. I am neutral as a viewer and even accepted the fact that they will eventually show Azaan having two wives, but this feels so wrong. Making Azaan hate Shayra just for Noor to have her way...


Im not surprised. I think the ph had the idea of 2 wives at the beginning but after huge reaction of fans they changed the plot for Azaan-Shayra divorce. Instead of showing a 'soft divorce' (we know that Shayra doesnt supports polygamy) they choosed now to put in hate in this illogical story 🙄.

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: The_May_Rose

More bad news everyone.

http://www.serialgossip.com/gossip-41123-a

http://www.serialgossip.com/gossip-41124-a

The site is mostly accurate. If they actually separate Azaan and Shayra I will never expect anything good from this show ever again. I am neutral as a viewer and even accepted the fact that they will eventually show Azaan having two wives, but this feels so wrong. Making Azaan hate Shayra just for Noor to have her way...

Shazaan will end for me with divorce, if these two are not going to put each other before Noor then they don't deserve each other, Shaira deserves loneliness and Azaan deserves to live with a bachchi as his wife.

Edited by NoraSM - 6 years ago
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: fria319

I agree, they did do a much better job with Asgar & Suraiya.

You're right about the disconnect between promo and description. If I compare the promos to the plot description, it doesn't seem to really align. Promos suggested Azaan had to marry Noor because of noble reasons / forced situation without any indication of Noor & Shairya's side of things. While the noble situation seems like its happening in the show, as a viewer, who sees everything that Azaan doesn't see, it doesn't feel so noble. It just feels like Azaan is getting duped. But I guess... from Azaan's perspective he is doing the noble thing. Ugh, lol. I need to stop overthinking this show hahaha.

I remember the description described Noor as taking revenge on Shairya. I just assumed we'd get more reasoning behind Noor's revenge that made sense. Or she'd be "grey" without really being "grey" because she would have some sort of justification/motivation for her actions that a viewer would actually understand and that she'd be a character I love to hate. The ones where you know they're bad but you're lowkey rooting for them anyway lol. Right now, there's nothing that's happening that makes me want to continue liking Noor as a character. I don't know if the writers intend to keep it that way for the entire duration of the show or not. Time will tell I guess.

Promo was from Azaan's perspective, he will marry Noor to save her from Khalid and embarrassment.

Noor is not a grey character, she is black. Sometimes actors make you love black characters, I have loved many black characters, I have rooted for them. I don't want to offend anyone but the actor is very limited for a black character, I am not feeling it. Writing is at fault too, Diana acts funny while crying, but I start crying with her because I can feel what Shaira is going through 😂😅

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: NoraSM

Promo was from Azaan's perspective, he will marry Noor to save her from Khalid and embarrassment.

Noor is not a grey character, she is black. Sometimes actors make you love black characters, I have loved many black characters, I have rooted for them. I don't want to offend anyone but the actor is very limited for a black character, I am not feeling it. Writing is at fault too, Diana acts funny while crying, but I start crying with her because I can feel what Shaira is going through 😂😅

I agree with you that black characters with strong actors and justification through plot development can make you root for them. Some shows have made me do that. For this serial, I'm just apathetic. Even for Shayra. Lately, her pain is due to her own actions so I can't sympathise with her. Plus, Diana's crying is quite comical that I really can't feel anything for her. What Bahu Begum really needed was a stronger plotline with better FLs. It could have easily been a hit show (online wise even if it does not become a TRP topper), but its potential is all wasted. After this, the PH should take a break and spend some time on developing a quality show before approaching any channels to air it. Because not even 1 of its shows have impressed the audience so far.

Edited by LiveLifeHonest - 6 years ago

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