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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: spain

You're right.

It is wrong to label him a "murderer". There is no proof.

But I do not believe she died a natural death either.

Just wanted to share my opinion based on the limited facts available.

uhum!…Dear Very qualified Doctor I know they teach this at most Medical Universities ...A drowning is NOT a "natural death" basically drowning is defined as: respiratory impairment as a result of having mouth/nose under liquid/water, therefore it is usually logically considered accidental drowning secondary to an accident, fall, loss of consciousness, heart issues, too much alcohol consumption. Drowning is most often quick and unspectacular. It takes only a few minutes, and very little water and I can quote you figures and data of all the accidental drownings per year, but that would be long and boring.

Let me just mention that: The use of alcohol increases the risk for drowning across developed and developing nations. Alcohol is involved in approximately 50% of fatal drownings, and 35% of non-fatal drownings( those who are given CPR) Among adolescents and adults, alcohol use is involved in almost a quarter of emergency department visits for drowning.

Why do I highlight alcohol use and drowning...well because I think it may be related to the tragic death, and for privacy reasons and humane reasons the authorities and the family chose to not disclose details that may mar the stars legacy and reputation. I agree with them.

As far as "official" forms are concerned, I do not know what the norm is in the country she passed away in, but I can tell you that a letter signed by a high ranking officer or a document approved by one, holds more baring than a file form. It is a "carte blanche" per say. In particular when it is a courtesy to a dignitary from a foreign country.

Because a diagnosis of drowning is considered one of the most difficult in forensic medicine. External examination and autopsy findings are often non-specific, and the available laboratory tests are often inconclusive. Therefore, the doctors or medical respondents to the scene would consider drowning as a possible cause of death when the body was recovered from a body of water, or in close proximity to a fluid which could plausibly have caused drowning, or when found with the head immersed in a fluid. A medical diagnosis of death by drowning is generally made after other possible causes of death have been excluded by means of a complete autopsy and toxicology tests. Indications of drowning are seldom completely unambiguous, and may include bloody froth in the airway, water in the stomach, cerebral edema and petrous or mastoid hemorrhage.

So you see Dear Doctor, the medical team in that country must of done their due diligence they looked at everything, tested everything and reached the conclusion that they did. The authorities of not one but two countries are satisfied with the findings and the cause of death, and so is the family. No one should be questioning or creating falsehoods or distorting the facts to create controversy and get five minutes of fame.

I assure you NO ONE was more hurt at her loss than her own family, certainly not the gossip mongers or the pseudo book writers. To her family it was a tragedy, no matter how it happened and when people start twisting the details and force the family to disclose the facts as for example that she was under the influence of alcohol or medication that adds insult to injury, and breaches their right to privacy and to keep her memory intact.

I hope they leave the family alone, and I hope she is resting in peace.

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Posted: 6 years ago
#42

Originally posted by: chimmasimma

As per BollyGuide Underground;

Bony & Sri were having fights regularly, post failure of Sri's MOM & Boney's produced strings of flops including his own son Arjun's movie. They were in debt, loan sharks were threatening them every now and then.

That is when Boney's underworld contact in middle east suggested of Insurance and arranged for it. They thought no one would know about it, but it was soon revealed and Boney had to share LARGE SHARE (~80%) of insurance money to cover up his deeds in the hotel to get clean chit.

So, at the end of day, Boney was able to clear his debts, but didn't make much from his grand plan. As Arjun was doing good in terms of finance, he used emotional card and got reunited with his old family.

Bad luck didn't stop there. KJo agreed to launch his daughter but for FREE, yes you read it right she was paid nothing, so didn't Ishan. KJo is one cunning producer. His brand name is enough for new comers to get future works, but it was not the case for Janvi.

Currently, Boney is back to his olden producer days trying to grab young asses, promising to make them actress in his soon to be produced movies. Trying hard to get new financiers to produce new movie. But even his brother Anil, for whom he had produced so many movies is not interested instead started his own production company.

Maybe this is what KARMA really is.


I second this.

This has nothing to do with medicine....this is common sense...

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: spain

I second this.

This has nothing to do with medicine....this is common sense...

Touche...then you are no Doctor, qualified or otherwise, nor an insurance claims investigator. Because you go on to mention all kinds of tripe and innuendo. You are basically accusing the family of killing her, because they had financial problems? You do not know what they have nor what their life insurance was, nor how killing her was going to solve all of it. Please remember that even though she was an older star she was still capable of working, thereby being an asset to the family, add that to the moral support a mother gives her girls and how now they do not have her, nor her connections. Common sense tells that she was worth MUCH MUCH more to them alive. Please STOP let the lady rest in peace.
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Stop harping and being so judgemental on other members here...jeez....

There is no smoke without fire.

An insurance policy worth Rs 240 crore was reportedly bought in Sridevi's name in Oman. Apart from the huge money involved, what makes the news interesting is the fact that it could have been encashed only if Sridevi had died in Dubai, according to a filmmaker's lawyer.

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: spain

Stop harping and being so judgemental on other members here...jeez....

There is no smoke without fire.

An insurance policy worth Rs 240 crore was reportedly bought in Sridevi's name in Oman. Apart from the huge money involved, what makes the news interesting is the fact that it could have been encashed only if Sridevi had died in Dubai, according to a filmmaker's lawyer.

Ok lady I gave you my facts, my issue is not that she may or may not have been murdered, I have seen people be killed for 20 dollars or slaughtered to be robbed of the shoes they wore, so nothing NOTHING surprises me about human nature and the horrid things they do to each other for money. So I am not disputing nor claiming that it does not happen My issue was and is that some "expert" is claiming that people cannot drown in a bath tub, or the fact that she was 5'7 and the tub 5' and other menial or circumstantial information. Then you a self described very qualified Doctor go on to claim that you think she did not die of a natural death, I merely pointed out that a drowning IS never a natural death, that a drowning death is the result of....accidents, Under the influence or even foul play etc... I also point out that it is a common cause of death and that people in particular children are at risk in mere inches of water OK. I have seen children drown in buckets, toilets, baby tubs, adults in tubs, Jacuzzis etc....

I JUST WANT TO MAKE THAT CLEAR-SO THAT PEOPLE ARE SAFE-AND NOT HAVE A FALSE SENSE OF SECURITY WHEN THEY READ A VERY QUALIFIED DOCTOR SAY SOMETHING FALSE OR MISLEADING.

I even mention to you that a forensics team, during a post mortem would have ruled out any and other issues, like a heart attack for example, an aneurysm, a fall, toxicology etc.. Going step by step until they are left with the drowning, usually in the process they find the cause that lead to the accidental drowning. A fall would leave marks and bruises, if pushed or held, she would have fought etc..So you see it is not so cut and dry.

The insurance policy is a different issue, the details are not public, so even from one copy and paste to another people get details wrong and create their own versions. If there was foul play I assure you that the insurance company will be looking at even the most minute detail before they fork over the money, that is a given, because the policy itself becomes a circumstantial and the payee a suspect, and because insurance companies do not like giving away money they are only happy when collecting premiums, so they will set their best investigators on it. You can bet on it if you gamble.

Now with that said until proven guilty I hope they leave the family alone, imagine for just one second how it feels to be one of her daughters or loved family members and have to listen to one of them be called a murderer, and in such a monstrous way plus all the gossip and innuendo about being penniless, or associated with the underworld etc.., unless of course you claim they are all in it... But just imagine... Since the insurance payout if true is not coming from your pocket nor that new accusers pocket. Allowing the authorities (that you all voted into those jobs) do their job, and giving the family privacy and her memory some respect is not so bad. That is all. Peace.


p.s. clichés are for morons...sometimes there is smoke without fire...but that concept will blow your mind, if natural death was too difficult to understand.....


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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: chimmasimma

As per BollyGuide Underground;

Bony & Sri were having fights regularly, post failure of Sri's MOM & Boney's produced strings of flops including his own son Arjun's movie. They were in debt, loan sharks were threatening them every now and then.

That is when Boney's underworld contact in middle east suggested of Insurance and arranged for it. They thought no one would know about it, but it was soon revealed and Boney had to share LARGE SHARE (~80%) of insurance money to cover up his deeds in the hotel to get clean chit.

So, at the end of day, Boney was able to clear his debts, but didn't make much from his grand plan. As Arjun was doing good in terms of finance, he used emotional card and got reunited with his old family.

Bad luck didn't stop there. KJo agreed to launch his daughter but for FREE, yes you read it right she was paid nothing, so didn't Ishan. KJo is one cunning producer. His brand name is enough for new comers to get future works, but it was not the case for Janvi.

Currently, Boney is back to his olden producer days trying to grab young asses, promising to make them actress in his soon to be produced movies. Trying hard to get new financiers to produce new movie. But even his brother Anil, for whom he had produced so many movies is not interested instead started his own production company.

Maybe this is what KARMA really is.


Can you give me bollyguide underground link?

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Posted: 6 years ago
#47

Originally posted by: chimmasimma

As per BollyGuide Underground;

Bony & Sri were having fights regularly, post failure of Sri's MOM & Boney's produced strings of flops including his own son Arjun's movie. They were in debt, loan sharks were threatening them every now and then.

That is when Boney's underworld contact in middle east suggested of Insurance and arranged for it. They thought no one would know about it, but it was soon revealed and Boney had to share LARGE SHARE (~80%) of insurance money to cover up his deeds in the hotel to get clean chit.

So, at the end of day, Boney was able to clear his debts, but didn't make much from his grand plan. As Arjun was doing good in terms of finance, he used emotional card and got reunited with his old family.

Bad luck didn't stop there. KJo agreed to launch his daughter but for FREE, yes you read it right she was paid nothing, so didn't Ishan. KJo is one cunning producer. His brand name is enough for new comers to get future works, but it was not the case for Janvi.

Currently, Boney is back to his olden producer days trying to grab young asses, promising to make them actress in his soon to be produced movies. Trying hard to get new financiers to produce new movie. But even his brother Anil, for whom he had produced so many movies is not interested instead started his own production company.

Maybe this is what KARMA really is.



it's obvious there , it's not accidental death. as d company with cover up bolly under scanner ,dis came in to light again n jail dgp light on it n bonny calling it someones imagination lol . for insurance done it n so for debts n for chirag ak films ,how ak getting films n who financing them lol ,all the sri tribute drama n suddenly ak accepting jhanvi,kushi as sisters n poor single dad n his kids atlast all big family narrative etc... ak d superman d salman fan,mem of salman d club, done same which he is claiming as victim n affair with mak lol. so bonny with d company done there ,tats y clean chit in so called great there lol , it is preplanned done it n showed it as accidental death . more has to be clear in open

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: CriticusExpert

Ok lady I gave you my fact.... That is all. Peace

p.s. clichés are for morons...sometimes there is smoke without fire...but that concept will blow your mind, if natural death was too difficult to understand.....

I understand where you are coming from and your views. And I respect them.

But your tone and choice of words to me were quite condescending.

You write Peace and follow it up with sarcasm.

You could simply state your thoughts without having to be antagonising and disrespectful to others.

It speaks more about yourself than anything, at least that's what I felt after reading your interesting medical lecture to me.

I never claimed to be giving an "expertise" opinion....I only said it is my opinion.

I say this as a woman, a mother, a wife....just like any other soul on the road.

Being a doctor has nothing to do with it because I did not do an autopsy on her.

And I still say this is my opinion. That's all.

Her death may have been natural, drowning in a bathtub.

But it was not accidental.

It was made to look accidental, because the lead up to that event and post that event shows it was somewhat pre-planned. And because no one can prove a natural death was "unnatural"....Boney Kapoor still wins the lottery, or at least some of it.

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: spain

Her death may have been natural, drowning in a bathtub.

But it was not accidental.

What part of there is no such a thing as a "Natural death by drowning"

you do not get?

ALL drowning deaths ARE accidental. A result of either self induced injury, substance abuse, sudden attacks (cardiac, aneurism, epileptic) or if someone holds your head under water/liquid.

When they do a post mortem there "ARE SIGNS" that allow doctors to determine what caused the drowning. It is a process excluding until they reach a conclusion.

My GOD! If you want to call the man a murderer do so, in fact if you are so sure he killed her then file a police report, do not stay quiet. But for the sake of the intelligence of all physicians, practitioners, investigators, STOP calling it a "natural, drowning in a bathtub" Even the official report lists it as "accidental drowning".

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Posted: 6 years ago
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The discussion on this thread makes me want to throw up. Literally. Sri is my all time favourite actress. And I believe it was accidental death per say. Even if that’s not true, let me stay in my bubble for heaven’s sake. Despite almost confessing of Arushi’s murder by that househelp (confessional under narco test I believe), people want to call the parents the murderers. Great. Can we not have these sickening discussions which bears no fruit in the end apart from making me cringe at such possibilities. No hard feelings for anyone, but the discussion in such detailed manner is too much to take, may Sri’s soul rest in peace. 😔

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