Potential of Abhi Pragya story - Page 2

Originally posted by: sammy17

Like i said in my initial comment, abhigya should be together to make their fans happy, but this new gen/ post-leap is clearly being enjoyed by people like myself who was not a fan of the show ever, and the continuing high trp's show that the trp audience isn't annoyed or disinterested in the new leap or new gen and are fine with continuing watching KKB with the new gen in it along side abhigya.

It is only online fans who are being so ferociously against the new gen/ the new leap and mocking and hating on them, whereas tv audience are happy as long as they keep up the drama quotient in the show. I'm not for side lining anyone and would rather all characters be given something to do, as clearly only abhigya fans online are hating on new gen out of defensiveness for their fave jodi, but when there are people clearly enjoying the new gen and the trp audience have no issue in watching them and aren't exactly switching off their telly out of annoyance for the screen space being given to them, why would writers not give the new gen screen space too or why shouldn't the audience who also like the new gen not get to watch them be an integral part of the story?

People could say abhi is literally just like every other ekta male lead such as raman, and that pragya is just like every other female lead, but here instead people are saying ranbir-prachi are copies of abhi-pragya, when abhi-pragya aren't exactly original either when raman-ishita or even ram and priya from BALH are exactly like abhi-pragya's characterisations/ relationship.

For example, Ishita-raman/ priya-ram both were also exactly the same as abhigya; rich male lead who claims undying love for female lead yet humiliates, accuses and misunderstands her and constantly throws her out of his life but then is justified by writers with his behaviour buy making him do everything he can to make up with the female lead only to treat her the same again in the future, both are polar opposites in terms of personality hence have a lot of nok-jhok and the female lead isn't rich. Same relationships, dynamics and personalities between all the couples. For this reason there is no point in saying one character is a copy of another when no characters on ITV are original and all male-female leads have the same characterisation. Ranbir and prachi are not a copy of abhigya, but are merely stereotypical male-female protagonists like abhigya that exist throughout ITV. Abhigya and their story is exactly like raman-ishita, ram-priya and many other onscreen jodis.

I agree with that. On a general level kkb itself is a recycled plot but it worked because of the leads. Their chemistry is palpable. Thats basically for all of these daily soaps. Rarely do they work because of the plot, it’s generally fr the leads. I agree that Abhi and Pragya’s story has been butchered. The leap itself wasn’t well thought off. It’s like they picked a random number without thinking of logistics. I’m sorry but the plots they are showing with the new gen is more suited to teenagers not 20 year olds. Its one of my biggest pet peeves that their timeline is screwed up. I just think if they wanted to take the new gen forward they should have casted better. The actors simply don’t suit the characters - its cringeworthy. For instance shows like PR or YRKKH or even the older shows like kzk worked post leap because the new generation had chemistry to match and their charcters were different. I get that all leads are recycled but recycling the character sketch in the same show? Personally i’ve legit stopped watching it and im rewatching old episodes and my favourite tracks.

Also personally i think the people watching on tv are mainly watch for Abhi and Pragya too, just waiting for their scenes which the producers are giving out like alms at this point. Like tarsa tarsa ke de rahe hain. Sriti and Shabbir have a very loyal fan following i think and so they’ll continue watching for the small scenes which is why i think the trps aren’t that affected. This is just my opinion though, i could be wrong.

Originally posted by: misfit007

I agree with that. On a general level kkb itself is a recycled plot but it worked because of the leads. Their chemistry is palpable. Thats basically for all of these daily soaps. Rarely do they work because of the plot, it’s generally fr the leads. I agree that Abhi and Pragya’s story has been butchered. The leap itself wasn’t well thought off. It’s like they picked a random number without thinking of logistics. I’m sorry but the plots they are showing with the new gen is more suited to teenagers not 20 year olds. Its one of my biggest pet peeves that their timeline is screwed up. I just think if they wanted to take the new gen forward they should have casted better. The actors simply don’t suit the characters - its cringeworthy. For instance shows like PR or YRKKH or even the older shows like kzk worked post leap because the new generation had chemistry to match and their charcters were different. I get that all leads are recycled but recycling the character sketch in the same show? Personally i’ve legit stopped watching it and im rewatching old episodes and my favourite tracks.

Also personally i think the people watching on tv are mainly watch for Abhi and Pragya too, just waiting for their scenes which the producers are giving out like alms at this point. Like tarsa tarsa ke de rahe hain. Sriti and Shabbir have a very loyal fan following i think and so they’ll continue watching for the small scenes which is why i think the trps aren’t that affected. This is just my opinion though, i could be wrong.

In my experience the tv audience don't watch for the couple's chemistry the way the online audience do, but for the drama quotient. At the end of the day you could throw the right amount of drama in a serial to entertain the tv audience and they would continue watching, which is why you see so much melodrama and negativity on ITV as opposed to light-hearted family drama and romance. High-octane drama, tears of the good-guys and watching to see how the good guys deal with the challenges thrown at them are what have the tv audience tuning into watch whilst chemistry of couples is something they don't pay near enough attention to as much as we as online audience do and even if they do, it isn't enough to keep them hooked. KKB is a success because it has applied ekta's successful formula of rinsing and repeating the same emotional atyachaar on female lead that has always got her trp's. Also plenty of shows with newcomers have done well whilst shows with big stars have not, so even actors aren't tickets to ensure success for a show. Its the regular melodrama high content only that tv audience tunes in for.

I agree with this one.

As someone who restarted for the new gen because of the freshness it bore , i would want abhi pragya's story to get a proper closure now.

Their story has been explored in every possible way , they wanted to try out the parenting dynamic and here it is , abhigya according to me was toxic and personally I wouldn't want them to end up together but for the sake of fans it's inevitable , they have supported abhigya and the show for all these years so they deserve their happy ending.

And I genuinely hope that Prachi-Ranbir's story wouldn't be as cliche as other itv couples , but again it's ekta who loves to rinse and repeat.

I didn't say Abhi-Pragya were original. Heck, nothing on Ekta shows are original. But Sriti and Shabir made it work beautifully. They developed a fan following over the years. And I don't think you should get defensive over people's opinions online. Many feel they have been short changed and it's a valid reason. Yeah I don't think the abuse is warranted.

And to recycle the same traits I. E, Rock star in the making and goody two shoes in the same show is a bit much. Why would I want to watch that? It's boring, uninteresting. Ranbir and prachi dont even match each other.

And about trps, the makers know that they won't get any if they make it completely about the new generation. They don't have the charisma to pull off the show on their own. So they are being very clever. Giving Abhi-Pragya scenes in small doses and stupid hit and miss encounters. I feel if Abhi-Pragya story is done and they walk out of the show, it's done for good. I don't think it will work with the newbies alone. But they can try.

Originally posted by: davos

Also, this teeny bopper college love story is no patch on the intense relationship Abhi-Pragya had. Have you even watched the old episodes? They don't need to learn anything from Prachi and Ranbir. Lmao. Yeah they don't trust each other but they will. The writers broke them apart in the nastiest way possible over Kiara's death and to not bring them together and sideline them over a bunch of college kids would be a travesty. Am sorry but this post got me worked up and I need to vent.

Sorry, but, I have been a loyal fan of this serial since its inception and have watched each episode of Abhi- Pragya. Shabbir and Sriti are very good actors and they are the one who has made us emotionally attached to Abhi- Pragya. Otherwise, Abhi is the most stupid husband I have seen on television. He was still hanging with Tanu until Kiara's death. Initially, I used to like him as he showed good-hearted. Then too he used to torture Pragya. But, after dadi's death, the way he threw pragya out of the house, without ever trying to find her and blaming Pragya for Dadis death. I don't see the reason they can ever be reunited. In recent episode too, he was blaming Pragya for all his misfortune.

Ranbir- Prachi's story can bring freshness if properly built, that has been missing in this serial. I would rather watch college love story than watch matured stupid love story that only gives negative influence to the society.

Hope EK doen't ruin Ranbir-Prachi's story as other showing showing pregnancy drama and other stupid themes.

I'm watching for Abhi Pragya. For 5 years I'm watching this show as TRP audience. Im not interested in them getting sidelined. I'm fine with them bring shown as parents now though not to such big daughters.

New generation I find very boring. Ranbir as a character has no spark. Don't know if the actor is a newcomer or acted before. Prachi I remember seeing in the many saas wala serial ads on Zee..Im definitely not interested in their story. Prachi can be used to bridge the gap between Abhigya. And I want the show to wrap up by this year. Sunny / kiara are not important. Don't think anyone is watching for them to make an appearance.

BTW TRP already started falling. Any leap brings TRp because of novelty. After that reality sets in. Same happened with BALH. The new generation didn't bring TRPs. The change in Abhi Pragya s roles got it. Remove Sriti/ Shabbir. The show will go down. I don't think that saas Wala serial on Zee had good TRPs either. It went off air quite soon. Sriti shabbir have carried this show so far. The way Karan Divyanka did for YHM no matter how their characters were.

Wow, lots of serious writing debates between old and new gen couples. I was busy so just read all of them. LOL.

Both sides, feel r right and wrong. 1st Abhigya. Now this couple had brought in the chemistry for which this show was a hit. Losing them now kinda seems bad. But that said, I feel, as one of u pointed, Abhi's character though a man with a heart of gold, I felt nauseous especially the way he treated Pragya. Fine in the initial stages he was with Tanu. But despite mistakes after mistakes, he NEVER THREW her or Alia is very very cheap.

And more so Pragya. I mean a educated college professor ( I think that was what she was), sides with such a cheapo just for her family's sake is downright disgusting. I mean how long will u take a woman as being so humiliated. And whatever r u showing society. That this is acceptable? I never knew Dadi died or when. I had stopped watching this shit a long time back. And apparently one of u mentioned Abhi threw her out.

I know many of u r fans of this couple and hence unable to accept this leap. And u want more sweet scenes between these two ( I am being very polite). That can happen even in this leap. Romance is not a prerogative of the young alone. I forgot the name, but there was a movie in this regard Ayushmann Khurana acted. Recent one. I loved it as it broke stereo types. But for heaven's sake now they r going to bring another love angle. I am sick of it. How many women will fall in love with a single hero. But heroine will not live with any other guy except having a platonic relationship with him. Does that happen in real life. Forget small towns, where from TRPs come even cities.

As for one of saying u cringe whenever Prachi hugs Rhea, I feel u r looking at Mugdha from her real age. Leave that, then u won't feel. And u were right when u said u laughed when Abhi called her beta. That is Shabbir's fault not Mugdha's. He was bland. I have already stated he doesn't act or emote so well. With Sriti u don't find because of the tremendous actor that she is. So though SHE DOESN'T LOOK OLD, she convinces with her acting.

As for gen2, I feel Ranbir is being given a raw deal and I hate his silly fights with Prachi. It looks totally forced. As for the falling, catching etc, it is trademark of EK or for that matter any serial maker in Hindi. Yesterday also there was no Ranbir. I honestly wanted to see his reaction to how Rhea trying to frame Prachi. But, don't worry, somehow, RP r going to fall in love, but Since Rhea also wants Ranbir, Prachi for her parents' sake will sacrifice her love. This has happened in so many so shows. I nowadays am only watching this show for Mugdha. The day she is shown as some dumb woman, it is goodbye for me.

Honestly this show still had ample potential. If only they don't make Meera fall in love with Abhi, but show her positive throughout, and Prachi finds out her father, unites them. Teaches A1 a lesson, and all other loopholes as Sunny, Disha, et all. I want a proper storyline. Definitely today also Pragya won't meet Abhi. Because Meera will just come in and so she will leave them.

This is what is going to happen. And going by TRPs, TV audience r appreciating this leap, whether u folks like it or not.

Sorry for the long rant. Plus I apologise as I totally got confused as to who wrote what and so couldn't mention u all by Ur individual ids. ☺️

If at all, I like any other actor apart from Sriti and Mugdha now, it has to be Vikram (don't know his real name). And his expressions r beautiful.

Originally posted by: Janas2017

Wow, lots of serious writing debates between old and new gen couples. I was busy so just read all of them. LOL.

Both sides, feel r right and wrong. 1st Abhigya. Now this couple had brought in the chemistry for which this show was a hit. Losing them now kinda seems bad. But that said, I feel, as one of u pointed, Abhi's character though a man with a heart of gold, I felt nauseous especially the way he treated Pragya. Fine in the initial stages he was with Tanu. But despite mistakes after mistakes, he NEVER THREW her or Alia is very very cheap.

And more so Pragya. I mean a educated college professor ( I think that was what she was), sides with such a cheapo just for her family's sake is downright disgusting. I mean how long will u take a woman as being so humiliated. And whatever r u showing society. That this is acceptable? I never knew Dadi died or when. I had stopped watching this shit a long time back. And apparently one of u mentioned Abhi threw her out.

I know many of u r fans of this couple and hence unable to accept this leap. And u want more sweet scenes between these two ( I am being very polite). That can happen even in this leap. Romance is not a prerogative of the young alone. I forgot the name, but there was a movie in this regard Ayushmann Khurana acted. Recent one. I loved it as it broke stereo types. But for heaven's sake now they r going to bring another love angle. I am sick of it. How many women will fall in love with a single hero. But heroine will not live with any other guy except having a platonic relationship with him. Does that happen in real life. Forget small towns, where from TRPs come even cities.

As for one of saying u cringe whenever Prachi hugs Rhea, I feel u r looking at Mugdha from her real age. Leave that, then u won't feel. And u were right when u said u laughed when Abhi called her beta. That is Shabbir's fault not Mugdha's. He was bland. I have already stated he doesn't act or emote so well. With Sriti u don't find because of the tremendous actor that she is. So though SHE DOESN'T LOOK YOUNG, she convinces with her acting.

As for gen2, I feel Ranbir is being given a raw deal and I hate his silly fights with Prachi. It looks totally forced. As for the falling, catching etc, it is trademark of EK or for that matter any serial maker in Hindi. Yesterday also there was no Ranbir. I honestly wanted to see his reaction to how Rhea trying to frame Prachi. But, don't worry, somehow, RP r going to fall in love, but Since Rhea also wants Ranbir, Prachi for her parents' sake will sacrifice her love. This has happened in so many so shows. I nowadays am only watching this show for Mugdha. The day she is shown as some dumb woman, it is goodbye for me.

Honestly this show still had ample potential. If only they don't make Meera fall in love with Abhi, but show her positive throughout, and Prachi finds out her father, unites them. Teaches A1 a lesson, and all other loopholes as Sunny, Disha, et all. I want a proper storyline. Definitely today also Pragya won't meet Abhi. Because Meera will just come in and so she will leave them.

This is what is going to happen. And going by TRPs, TV audience r appreciating this leap, whether u folks like it or not.

Sorry for the long rant. Plus I apologise as I totally got confused as to who wrote what and so couldn't mention u all by Ur individual ids. ☺️

Agree with what you have said. I also would like to see this happen. But, EK is too afraid to bring freshness to the story.

I disagree with the comment about Shabir's acting. LOL. It's not his fault that the casting is so atrocious. I mean whenever the 2 girls call Sriti and Shabir Mom and Dad, I cringe. Mugdha is 31 herself. Naina is 29. They've really messed up the casting.

If anything, Shabir is doing great. This version of Abhi has so much to offer. He's sorted and clear. He knows what he is and who he is. He's also clear as to how he doesn't want Rhea to be. His acting is so on point. Especially when he's scolding Rhea.