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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: Janas2017

Wow, lots of serious writing debates between old and new gen couples. I was busy so just read all of them. LOL.

Both sides, feel r right and wrong. 1st Abhigya. Now this couple had brought in the chemistry for which this show was a hit. Losing them now kinda seems bad. But that said, I feel, as one of u pointed, Abhi's character though a man with a heart of gold, I felt nauseous especially the way he treated Pragya. Fine in the initial stages he was with Tanu. But despite mistakes after mistakes, he NEVER THREW her or Alia is very very cheap.

And more so Pragya. I mean a educated college professor ( I think that was what she was), sides with such a cheapo just for her family's sake is downright disgusting. I mean how long will u take a woman as being so humiliated. And whatever r u showing society. That this is acceptable? I never knew Dadi died or when. I had stopped watching this shit a long time back. And apparently one of u mentioned Abhi threw her out.

I know many of u r fans of this couple and hence unable to accept this leap. And u want more sweet scenes between these two ( I am being very polite). That can happen even in this leap. Romance is not a prerogative of the young alone. I forgot the name, but there was a movie in this regard Ayushmann Khurana acted. Recent one. I loved it as it broke stereo types. But for heaven's sake now they r going to bring another love angle. I am sick of it. How many women will fall in love with a single hero. But heroine will not live with any other guy except having a platonic relationship with him. Does that happen in real life. Forget small towns, where from TRPs come even cities.

As for one of saying u cringe whenever Prachi hugs Rhea, I feel u r looking at Mugdha from her real age. Leave that, then u won't feel. And u were right when u said u laughed when Abhi called her beta. That is Shabbir's fault not Mugdha's. He was bland. I have already stated he doesn't act or emote so well. With Sriti u don't find because of the tremendous actor that she is. So though SHE DOESN'T LOOK OLD, she convinces with her acting.

As for gen2, I feel Ranbir is being given a raw deal and I hate his silly fights with Prachi. It looks totally forced. As for the falling, catching etc, it is trademark of EK or for that matter any serial maker in Hindi. Yesterday also there was no Ranbir. I honestly wanted to see his reaction to how Rhea trying to frame Prachi. But, don't worry, somehow, RP r going to fall in love, but Since Rhea also wants Ranbir, Prachi for her parents' sake will sacrifice her love. This has happened in so many so shows. I nowadays am only watching this show for Mugdha. The day she is shown as some dumb woman, it is goodbye for me.

Honestly this show still had ample potential. If only they don't make Meera fall in love with Abhi, but show her positive throughout, and Prachi finds out her father, unites them. Teaches A1 a lesson, and all other loopholes as Sunny, Disha, et all. I want a proper storyline. Definitely today also Pragya won't meet Abhi. Because Meera will just come in and so she will leave them.

This is what is going to happen. And going by TRPs, TV audience r appreciating this leap, whether u folks like it or not.

Sorry for the long rant. Plus I apologise as I totally got confused as to who wrote what and so couldn't mention u all by Ur individual ids. ☺️


Trps of KKB has always been nice it's not like The New gen came and Trps are in hike !!! Infact Abhigya Promos gain more trps compared to Weeks which has more of The New generation !!! I just wish KKB doesn't go in The form YHM did .....and the dusri pidhi would end just like other tracks of kkb did !!!! Anil Nagpal isn't like other directors he doesnt pull Abhigya out ever !!!! So hope for the best that KKB soon has a reprise or redux which is in the cards , always Shabir is senior artist who has given more to the show !!! Shabir and Sriti have made Abhigya so popular that even after 5 years They are in people's heart !!!!

If The whole leap gen cast is wiped in a day , KKB can still run with Sriti and Shabir !!! But it will not be the same if Sriti and Shabir are not in the show !!!

KKB wouldn't be affected if The New gen fans don't watch it or not since it has a huge fan for its true and original cast !!!

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Posted: 6 years ago
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I love how this topic has everyone so hyped. 😂

Sidenote - in terms of Abhi and Pragya’s relationship. Clearly it’s so dysfunctional because of how the plots and everything were written but really even in real life aren’t majority of the relationships dysfunctional or skewed somewhere.

Abhi and Pragya’s relationship actually reminds me of my parents now that i think of it. I think it’s even possible that at some point they may have even gotten married again if she were still around which would have been crazy for the society we live in. But really shit like it happens. As dysfunctional and unhealthy some relationships are, love really makes you do crazy things. When you can’t live without someone, you just can’t. Sometimes even decades later despite of the fact that you’ve technically moved on with someone else you haven’t. You can hate someone and still love them. I think that hate is just resentment. There are also some traits good or bad that just don’t change in people no matter time and experience.

EK shows obviously exaggerate quite a bit but at the gist of it not all love stories are healthy, in fact they rarely are in my opinion and we shouldn’t expect to see an ideal scenario on television or even in films. It’s rarely shown.

Also think both kinds of opinions are right to a certain extent about the leap. I don’t think the show will survive without Shabbir and Sriti while it can without everyone else and that the casting should have been better for the show in terms of the new gen. Also while people do watch for the story, otherwise and online i still think drama’s don’t work if the leads aren’t liked together unless it’s a very solid script which doens’t really happen on daily soaps. And yes, sometimes popular actors do worse than new actors in shows but in this particular case that isn’t so.

I also had something more to say but I can’t remember and i’m more concerned for my mental health given how invested i’ve become in this show 😂😂😂

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Posted: 6 years ago
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It's also important to remember that there are so many shows, especially ekta shows (both current on air and older off-air shows) where the shows have focused on both the leads and the leads children post a generation leap, with either the leads having a separate plot from the new gen or the leads and new gen being the focus of plots together such as yeh hai mohabbatein.

What is important to observe in such shows is that the leads were never replaced but their stories ran alongside the story of their children. It gives the writers something new to write about and the audience something new to watch too. YRKKH is one of the few shows where the new gen completely replaced the older leads, otherwise in ekta shows the leads and new gen are given equal importance. This has always happened and will continue, but ekta never replaces her original leads in the case of bringing a new gen of actors in.

The list of such shows are so long that it would take me ages, but if I just name ekta shows of such where the leads and their children/ new gen got almost equal importance/ screen space and was still watched by audience but the original leads were not replaced and still important alongside new gen include:

1. kyunki saas bhi kabhi bahu thi

2. kasauti zindagi ki

3. Pavitra rishta

4. Bade acche lagte hai

5. yeh hai mohabbatein

There's lots of more too. Its not like this is happening for the first time, and clearly they aren't replacing abhigya either but will just like other shows will be given importance post-leap and be given their own tracks alongside abhigya.

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: akshayakannan


Trps of KKB has always been nice it's not like The New gen came and Trps are in hike !!! Infact Abhigya Promos gain more trps compared to Weeks which has more of The New generation !!! I just wish KKB doesn't go in The form YHM did .....and the dusri pidhi would end just like other tracks of kkb did !!!! Anil Nagpal isn't like other directors he doesnt pull Abhigya out ever !!!! So hope for the best that KKB soon has a reprise or redux which is in the cards , always Shabir is senior artist who has given more to the show !!! Shabir and Sriti have made Abhigya so popular that even after 5 years They are in people's heart !!!!

If The whole leap gen cast is wiped in a day , KKB can still run with Sriti and Shabir !!! But it will not be the same if Sriti and Shabir are not in the show !!!

KKB wouldn't be affected if The New gen fans don't watch it or not since it has a huge fan for its true and original cast !!!

Great so you agree that the new gen haven't at least ruined the trp's or anything so what's the issue? Clearly there are people who are enjoying the post-leap track. It would be a different thing if the trp's dropped hugely after intro of new gen and tv audience had same complaints about new gen, but that isn't the case. That means the audience still find the show watchable and entertaining even with the new gen also being given focus, so in this case abhigya and new gen fans should both be happy. Clearly the new gen have brought along a new set of fans and audience with it too (more so for mughda), so this is good for the show. Like I said previously, I disliked this show and my mother stopped watching after a time, but we both started watching again out of curiosity and like the show now (especially my mother who swore she wouldn't watch again until tanu is out permanently). Abhigya fans need to quit being so hostile about new gen and claiming nobody likes or wants them in the show, because there are clearly people who are and ekta's bhagya shows would continue to get ratings no matter what kachra the writer's make of the show because melodrama is king of content for trp audience, hence the track around abhigya's children has also added to the drama content of the show.

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Posted: 6 years ago
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I NEVER SAID TRPs have improved only now. What I said is very simple. As Sammy has put it aptly, the two gens can run side by side as has been EK' s trademark. YHM I stopped watching I really don't know when because of what they did to the story. I cannot be loyal like some of u guys.

However, I stand by my statement that Shabir may be ok, but he is never a great actor. For me in male category, it would be Ram Kapoor, Ronit Roy, now Vikram (don't know his real name), Shakti Arora to name a few. For me the challenge is emoting. And Shabir most of the times seems to ape SRK. Sorry for hurting u folks. No bad intentions. It's just my opinion. Shabir or Karan Patel r EK favorites.

Acting, just see how Sriti is doing. Or I have seen Smriti Irani and my personal favourite Sakshi Tanwar. Even Mugdha is good. To bring out u have to go into the character which Sriti is doing. And that is y though SHE LOOKS YOUNG, her portrayal of Mom is beautiful. Ditto for Mugdha. For a 32 year to play the role of a 20 year, to act as one would be in the twenties, she is doing fab though she doesn't look so young. But I won't say she looks 32 if I hadn't known her age. Maybe 25ish.

For Rhea, probably her physique is one reason. But more I am irritated is that they portrayed her as A1's daughter not AP. Screaming and conniving - that definitely was not Abhi's nature.

Anyway, there is a lot of potential to re-bring beautiful relationship between AP minus the stupid misunderstandings. But don't think EK will bother.

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Posted: 6 years ago
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@misfit, agreed families r dysfunctional, but I don't think to the extent they have made this one. For 20 years, they don't bother to find out ABOUT one another, but pine away looking at moon. Ok, they made Pragya a non entity, but if Abhi is such a successful businessman, wouldn' t his photos or news about him come? Wouldn't Pragya read about them? Wouldn't she know then it was his house where they were assigned the catering job? And even yesterday and definitely today also, she won't meet him. They go to the camp, but conveniently go to some place where they can't meet. Wouldn't Prachi or Rhea show their photos? And if Pragya has faith in her daughter, would not she take the initiative to find out where he is rather than leaving it there or Prachi decide to find out herself if she is so intelligent?

Believe me, I am watching this comedy show just for actors putting away all logic nd reasoning to dust.😂😂😂

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: Janas2017

I NEVER SAID TRPs have improved only now. What I said is very simple. As Sammy has put it aptly, the two gens can run side by side as has been EK' s trademark. YHM I stopped watching I really don't know when because of what they did to the story. I cannot be loyal like some of u guys.

However, I stand by my statement that Shabir may be ok, but he is never a great actor. For me in male category, it would be Ram Kapoor, Ronit Roy, now Vikram (don't know his real name), Shakti Arora to name a few. For me the challenge is emoting. And Shabir most of the times seems to ape SRK. Sorry for hurting u folks. No bad intentions. It's just my opinion. Shabir or Karan Patel r EK favorites.

Acting, just see how Sriti is doing. Or I have seen Smriti Irani and my personal favourite Sakshi Tanwar. Even Mugdha is good. To bring out u have to go into the character which Sriti is doing. And that is y though SHE LOOKS YOUNG, her portrayal of Mom is beautiful. Ditto for Mugdha. For a 32 year to play the role of a 20 year, to act as one would be in the twenties, she is doing fab though she doesn't look so young. But I won't say she looks 32 if I hadn't known her age. Maybe 25ish.

For Rhea, probably her physique is one reason. But more I am irritated is that they portrayed her as A1's daughter not AP. Screaming and conniving - that definitely was not Abhi's nature.

Anyway, there is a lot of potential to re-bring beautiful relationship between AP minus the stupid misunderstandings. But don't think EK will bother.

Exactly when did anyone say the trp's have improved only now? They haven't dropped and have either stayed consistent or been increasing because the show has kept up the drama quotient. And I wouldn't want to comment on shabbir as I haven't watched him much but I have seen sriti over the years and she is very talented and emotes well. She pulls off the mother role because she has gotten into the skin of the character of a mother irrespective of her actual age. I do feel here shabbir hasn't warmed up to this new role as a parent. Its clear also that sriti has a better bonding with the new gen actors hence why also you can see she has good chemistry with the young gen. I've always adored her since saubhagyavati bhava although my first ever show of hers was shaurya aur suhani.

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Sammy for Ur views on EK's Bhagya and Kachra - 🙈🙉🙊🤣🤣🤣.

Second, yep, I restarted for Mugdha. And Iam not maligning anyone. This one I watched intially only for Sriti.

Sriti, first show for me was Saubhagyavati.... Her chemistry with Karanvir was very beautiful more than I felt Harshad Chopra 😛😛.

That's because she gives her full to acting the role. Complete justification.

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: Janas2017

@misfit, agreed families r dysfunctional, but I don't think to the extent they have made this one. For 20 years, they don't bother to find out ABOUT one another, but pine away looking at moon. Ok, they made Pragya a non entity, but if Abhi is such a successful businessman, wouldn' t his photos or news about him come? Wouldn't Pragya read about them? Wouldn't she know then it was his house where they were assigned the catering job? And even yesterday and definitely today also, she won't meet him. They go to the camp, but conveniently go to some place where they can't meet. Wouldn't Prachi or Rhea show their photos? And if Pragya has faith in her daughter, would not she take the initiative to find out where he is rather than leaving it there or Prachi decide to find out herself if she is so intelligent?

Believe me, I am watching this comedy show just for actors putting away all logic nd reasoning to dust.😂😂😂


Dear God i find it ridiculous too! Like 20 freaking years and you never thought about your other child at the least, like what the fish. That’s why i say sick exaggeration and poorly thought out plot. It literally feels like they picked a random number for leap or because it looks nice. Abhi and Pragya are supposed to be in their 60s at this point. I swear i have never seen younger looking 60 year olds in my life. They are also acting like they are in their 30s. The lack of logic and common sense makes my head hurt so i ignore it even though it hurts at the back of my head every time i watch the show. 🤯🙄

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: sammy17

Exactly when did anyone say the trp's have improved only now? They haven't dropped and have either stayed consistent or been increasing because the show has kept up the drama quotient. And I wouldn't want to comment on shabbir as I haven't watched him much but I have seen sriti over the years and she is very talented and emotes well. She pulls off the mother role because she has gotten into the skin of the character of a mother irrespective of her actual age. I do feel here shabbir hasn't warmed up to this new role as a parent. Its clear also that sriti has a better bonding with the new gen actors hence why also you can see she has good chemistry with the young gen. I've always adored her since saubhagyavati bhava although my first ever show of hers was shaurya aur suhani.


Out of Shabbir and Sriti, I definitely like Sriti more. I started liking her in SB, her acting was fantastic. I think she can play any age well. She works well with any co actor too which shows. Her acting just speaks more to me but that doesn’t mean i don’t like Shabbir. I just don’t like him more than Sriti.

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