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Posted: 7 years ago
#41

Originally posted by: castlebones

I'm sorry but I disagree.

I think that part is necessary to give Zoya the incentive to stand up against her father, who she thinks can never do wrong and who's decision she is following blindly, when the right time arrives. Because clearly just because she loves Aditya she is not going to hurt her father.
What Adi is doing he is doing more for her then for himself and she means more to him then his self respect. Besides Adi's self respect is not made of glass that it can be destroyed so easily.
Also it was Waseem who was hurting her by asking her azeez dost to do such a task right in front of her.

This is exactly what I said, her father has always made it a competition between himself and who Zoya chooses, she doesn't want to make the same mistake again and be proven wrong by her father. It's easier for her to follow her dad than be be broken again. Aditya is willing to do anything to bring out a reaction in her even if he loses his self-respect or his life because he can't bear to see her unhappy.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Yep, the constant badgering is coming across as borderline harassment now ..I would be totally pissed off if my best friend did that to me! ..Zoya knows she doesn't love Arshad but she just thinks that the marriage will work out ..so i'm not sure what can change that will cause her to back out ..could be that Arshad is negative ..but too late for that - I don't think CVs have the time to introduce that angle about Arshsad ..so Arshad is positive ..and Zoya has consented to marriage knowing she doesn't love him as of now ..so I don't see why she'd back off ..I think Arshad might just have a change of heart last minute making him realize that he can't keep zoya as happy as Adi can ..or something like that and back off!!



Originally posted by: BeyondHorizon



TBH I am fed up of this fark padta hai chant 🥱 honestly u want to make someone realise their love for u at the cost of ur own self respect? Y is he badgering her so much? He has expressed his feelings n he has done his bit. Let Zoya deal with it in a mature manner. I am guessing AdiYa marriage won't happen. Either Arshad will back out like u said or Zoya might call it off. Zoya won't marry against Waseem's wish but she has every right to back out of a marriage where she will feel no love. Waseem won't change his feelings about Adi overnight n give Adiya his blessings no matter how hard Roshana or Noor try.

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Posted: 7 years ago
#43

Originally posted by: vandana21

Waseem has always been an ahole ..but what's with Zoya not speaking ..or Arshad letting Adi make him try on shoes!! ..Can he not say he'll do it ..or can Zoya not tell Waseem that Arshad can do it ..(perhaps she is purposely not saying stuff that shows her love for him!)



Waseem is an Ass**le... I get it but still this the new low for his character.

I commented the same before in this post that nobody objecting will be intolerable but i guess they will show Zoya objecting this as that is what this whole drama is for.She should atleast after all this and other characters are just standby for this track. Ladies of the house never utter any words against Waseem. Arshad well he jsut point out few things here and there. And if Arshad stop this then well Aditya's effort will go to drain.😆
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: Jareth

Whoa! Did everyone here completely miss the gist of the precap? I mean it was so obvious I'm surprised so few noticed what it was actually about! Sometimes I feel the writers and the CVs are just to intelligent for the mainstream audience.
Firstly, self respect is a big thing. It's not something miniscule that can be lost by helping someone wear their shoes. No. Self respect would have been lost if aditya did it out of some majboori. He has no majboori. What he has is an ulterior motive which is to get zoya to say something. To react. To show how much the mere act disturbs her. You think anyone could make him do something he wouldn't want to? (well except for zoya of course but she's the obvious outlier)

No. The only reason he's doing this is because he has planned it so. Warna do you honestly think he would help arshad in such a way merely because waseem said so? No he would not! Because if there's one thing we've learnt about his character, is that no one can make him bend to their will. No one.
His smirk, the way he keeps glancing at zoya are all telling signs. He doesn't care about what he's doing. He cares about what zoya feels about it. And zoya knows that that is the only reason he's doing this. Which is why she trying to remain silent and hold her anguish.
Aditya fell in love even when zoya was not around all the time. Zoya however will need constant nudging. Why? Because unlike aditya, zoya has her father constantly reminding her of how every decision she makes on her own is a bad one. And her father keeps telling her about how he knows what's best for her. Aditya did not have such obstacles. In fact his brother, noor, they constantly told him to go ahead. Zoya on the other hand has to be reminded every day that she's not good at deciding for herself which is stupid because everyone makes mistakes. That doesn't mean they should be blackmailed and constantly reminded of it.
Think of the situation as similar to that of gothel and rapunzel from tangled. Mother knows best here is father knows best. Her father made it seem like even aditya was a bad decision.
And so she has to require constant reminders, constant teasing, constant confessions, constant closeness. Or she'll go with what her father says. Aditya knows this. He knows her well. He's seen her at her weakest and at her strongest. He knows how far he must go and when he must stop. He knows he must remind her, remain in front of her if he has to have any hopes of dissuading her. Did she not compromise when it came to mahi and her ex MIL? So aditya is not being over about it. He knows he needs to do this. Especially since he had been hoping for more time but now had 7 days.
Zoya simply is not the kind of character who will simply fall in love if aditya backs off. She'll be a sacrficial lamb. And he knows this. He'll back off when he knows he's done all he could.
One look in zoya's eyes is enough to show him that she means none of the things she says to him
So please let the CVs do their job. Let them unfold the story because clearly alot of thinking is going into the story. Its not as simple as we think it to be. It's pretty deep


Also I missed out that: what is self respect in face of losing your happiness forever? And the other party losing any chance they had at theirs? Aditya is playing a bigger game. He's looking at the bigger picture. He's no majboor, damsel in distress. A lot of planning goes into his actions while some are spontaneous bit they're all very well targeted.
Have faith in the people who created this story.
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Posted: 7 years ago
#45

Originally posted by: Jareth


Also I missed out that: what is self respect in face of losing your happiness forever? And the other party losing any chance they had at theirs? Aditya is playing a bigger game. He's looking at the bigger picture. He's no majboor, damsel in distress. A lot of planning goes into his actions while some are spontaneous bit they're all very well targeted.
Have faith in the people who created this story.



I agree with your points regarding Aditya cause i know Zoya needs constant push now due to her Commitment and usools. She is not wrong at all there too. What i hated about the precap is the degradation of a father to such a low level. He has down graded to these low thinking and means. Anjana is a complete psycho but Waseem wasn't a psycho just a egoistical father but now i can't call him father when he don't value other's child. His ego comes for him first which is totally inhumane. I know everyone hates waseem i do too but this is really the new low for a father figure in a show.
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Posted: 7 years ago
#46

Originally posted by: alizia_malik



I agree with your points regarding Aditya cause i know Zoya needs constant push now due to her Commitment and usools. She is not wrong at all there too. What i hated about the precap is the degradation of a father to such a low level. He has down graded to these low thinking and means. Anjana is a complete psycho but Waseem wasn't a psycho just a egoistical father but now i can't call him father when he don't value other's child. His ego comes for him first which is totally inhumane. I know everyone hates waseem i do too but this is really the new low for a father figure in a show.


Like I said compare him to mother gothel from tangled. He's toxic. His love is toxic. He wants his daughter safe (like any other father) but he wants it to be a life of his own making. And he's this way because his he saw his daughter marry someone he disapproved of and did nothing about it. And then that man died/was killed. That man was having an affair. So not only is it about him being overprotective about his daughter, its also about how he has this sort of sadistic satisfaction that "look I told you yash was no good. Now let me arrange your life for you because father knows best"
But along with that there is guilt for not stopping her from marrying yash in the first place because not matter what, he IS still a father. So his is a complex character. He's sadistic enough to keep sprinkling salt in his daughter's wounds by reminding her of the mistake she made and telling the man she clearly feels something for to do something like that (the shoe thing). But he is also guilty enough about what happened the first time around to keep saying things like arshad is a heera etc etc. When someone repeats something constantly and keeps looking for confirmation of their statements (as waseem keeps doing. Almost like he's pleading for zoya to approve arshad) its usually because they want to convince themselves. He badly wants arshad for zoya as a sort of twisted redemption for what he could not prevent his daughter from going through
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: crazypoodle3

This is exactly what I said, her father has always made it a competition between himself and who Zoya chooses, she doesn't want to make the same mistake again and be proven wrong by her father. It's easier for her to follow her dad than be be broken again. Aditya is willing to do anything to bring out a reaction in her even if he loses his self-respect or his life because he can't bear to see her unhappy.

Finally someone who understand!!!
My point is, if you see that the love of your life is about to jump into fire on her own will, will you let her? There is a very good chance that you can get burned too but will it stop you?
From the beginning Adi have saved her from every danger even when he hated her. So what are the chances that he will stop now? Now that he is in love with her.
Not to mention Zoya too swallowed most of Anjana's insults for Adi's sake, didn't she?
Also Adi efforts are not just to win over Zoya but Waseem too. Something Yash never did.

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