The real reason of Alexander anger toward Porus - Page 2

Created

Last reply

Replies

13

Views

2.2k

Users

5

Likes

54

Frequent Posters

sashashyam thumbnail
13th Anniversary Thumbnail Sparkler Thumbnail + 3
Posted: 7 years ago
#11
Folks,

Note: After posting this, I saw Ayesha's extremely well done post above. There is of course a lot of overlap between the two - great minds thinking alike and all that jazz!😉.

In fact, I had included a long section in my marathon post for Episode 125 , Alexander does a Holmes on his attitude towards the Persian ladies, which I am pasting below for ease of reference.

Alexander is perfectly genuine in his attitude to Darius' family after Issus. He feels good about having been kind and compassionate towards them, whereas Darius had abandoned them to his mercy. In response to his honourable behaviour, he expects that they should, even if they cannot adjust to their change of fortune in a day-- what he tells Barsine above hints at a certain measure of empathy and compassion for what has happened to them all of a sudden - at least shed their fear of him, and accept him at face value.

If they had done this, and come at least some of the way to meet him, he would have continued to treat them with consideration. He would not have mocked Darius in front of them as he does now; remember that he calls him the Shah-e-Faras when they meet in the tent'

And while his response to Darius' offer would have been the same, he would not have humiliated Barsine & Co. by rubbing their noses in it.

But things start going wrong at the meeting with the populace itself. As discussed above, Alexander is now sure that Barsine is in league with a Bharatiya, and is planning to run away with his help. And Barsine is silent and sullen towards his overtures, and in general all the Persian royal ladies are frozen, standoffish and seem petrified at the sight of him. No wonder he gets cheesed off , and then there is Barsine's secret as well.

Alexander can be generous and compassionate, and in their case he wants to be so, but he cannot bear to be crossed. This plotting against him by Barsine, when he has been so good to all of them, turns the kaleidoscope upside down as far as he is concerned, and he becomes a mocking, sarcastic, inquisitorial and almost threatening doppelganger of his old self.

Coming back to Ayesha's very perceptive post, I do not feel that Alexander wanted Barsine to fall for him. I do not think he was at all interested in women from that point of view. What he wanted, methinks, was appreciation and gratitude. And when he got the opposite, and the Puru factor surfaced as another and acute irritant, he just flipped, and by now, he is near sadistic towards her.

Shyamala Aunty

Here is my original post intended for this thread.

One more point.

Alexander is not angry towards Porus because of Barsine. After what the Pauravengers did to Alexander's forces (and what was worse, his horses😭), and what Porus did to him personally, not to speak of Puru's magniloquent announcement that he is the rakshak about whom the High Priestess had warned Olympias, he does not need any further reason to be enraged at the very thought of Porus.

Nor is he angry with Barsine only because she called Porus to Persia and then (God knows how, for I am sure the CVs don't!😆) helped Porus and his gang wreak havoc in the Macedonian camp.

I think what he resents the most, maybe only subconsciously, is the lack of appreciation on the part of Barsine & Co, of his generous gesture in promising them full protection and assuring them that their royal status and privileges would be preserved.

If Sisygambis had been there, her abundant and demonstrative affection for Alexander - she is said to have cooked delicacies with her own hands and fed him - would have made him purr contentedly like a sleek, pampered lion cub with its mamma. But Barsine & Co,, far from feeling grateful to him for his consideration, freeze at the very sight of him, and generally behave as if he was something nasty that had crawled out from under a stone.😡

No wonder he is enraged, and on top of it, the hungama created by Puru & Co. adds fuel to the fire of his smouldering resentment. As Barsine is of course the culprit in chief, so his fury is focussed on her. He seeks every possible means of humiliating her, and after her waalid and the fate he intends for him, Porus is the next best stick to poke her with.

Alexander is no slouch at observation and deduction, and it is clear to him that Barsine has a ver y sort corner for Porus, and maybe she even loves him. So naturally his jibes at Barsine are now Porus-centric, as he tries his best to get a rise out of her.

But to no avail, for Ms. Suet Pudding will defeat the most astute and infuriating of provokers. Nothing can touch her. Yesternight, there was no horror in her eyes when she saw Darius' head. And her wail of Abbu! will probably be used in acting schools as an illustration of how not to do that scene.😆

I am sure that pretty soon, with Roxana now on the scene, the bitterness and rage now festering in Alexander's psyche will be leached out, and he will lose interest in humiliating Barsine. But last night, his gesture in tossing the head near the Persian ladies, and his subsequent remark to Barsine, were sadistic, and despite all that she had done against them, were unworthy of him.


Shyamala Aunty


Originally posted by: sashashyam

Superbly argued, my dear. Dil khush kar diya tumne.👏 I don't know what you do professionally, but if you are not a political analyst, you are a signal loss to that fraternity.

It all goes to show that not even Alexander Holmes can get it right without all the data.

This said, Barsine clearly has a crush on Puru, but she is such a suet pudding that there is no chance of an intriguing love triangle there.

Shyamala Aunty


Edited by sashashyam - 7 years ago
sashashyam thumbnail
13th Anniversary Thumbnail Sparkler Thumbnail + 3
Posted: 7 years ago
#12
@bold. No, my dear. I don't think Alexander would have heard of the Stockholm syndrome, you know!😉😉

Do see my post above for my take on the matter.

Shyamala Aunty.

Originally posted by: inlieu

Thanks Aunty. Glad you liked it and that it made sense even though I rattled off all the points that I had subconsciously observed and before long it became a list! 😆

Alexander is really saying this a lot. Maybe he will be more sympathetic towards Barsine's "love" for Puru once he himself falls in love with Roxanne.

Thanks @Alaria, yeah the CVs seems to be going with some sort of theme here. Why else would a world conquerer spend a couple of minutes every so often to talk about Barsine's ishq ki daastaan?

Did Alexander expect her to fall in love with him instead? Or is he just annoyed that she would do and feel all this for his nemeis while still held "captive" by him?

Edited by sashashyam - 7 years ago
inlieu thumbnail
12th Anniversary Thumbnail Stunner Thumbnail + 2
Posted: 7 years ago
#13
Aunty, of course he doesn't want or expect her to fall in love with him. I don't think he's thinking anything of the sort, and romance is the last thing on his mind.

Did Alexander expect her to fall in love with him instead?
It was a rhetorical question, that I obviously failed at asking. 😃


But the next question is what I feel
Or is he just annoyed that she would do and feel all this for his nemeis while still held "captive" by him?

Your previous post explains this aspect of his frustration very well, that she'd side with the enemy.


Edited by inlieu - 7 years ago
inlieu thumbnail
12th Anniversary Thumbnail Stunner Thumbnail + 2
Posted: 7 years ago
#14
Thanks @LawlessLawyer.
My comments in green.

Originally posted by: LawlessLawyer

@inlieu,you are really amazing girl.I really enjoy reading your views on the topics because your understanding of the characters and the situation is so apt.Moreover your posts have a lot of clarity and precision to them.

Glad you enjoy reading my posts, even though some of them are a bit too long. But once I start writing, I can't stop so easily. 😆


As @Alaria said,it's really surprising that they are putting a lot of emphasis on Barsine's unrequited love for Puru which according to Alexander is mutual between the two parties.I wonder why they are choosing to bring up this topic now when they never addressed it when Barsine was in PR with Puru.When Barsine left for Faras, I thought that this Puru-Barsine angle was totally shelved.

Yeah, me too. I thought it was done when her wedding to Kanishk was halted. I feel like there's some crazy twist coming up that may not make any sense at all. As long as they don't show Alexander marrying Barsine first or doing something to harm her, I can live with it. Let's see what our very creative CVs come up with!

Now this topic is being brought up again and again by none other than Alexander himself.Till now even Barsine never acknowledged her feelings for Puru.But Alexander keeps on branding Puru as her 'aashiq'.

Alexander in partially right here for even an idiot can see that Barsine has feelings for Puru.The mere realisation of Puru's presence in the Farsi Bazaar made her glow.I know it can be argued that Barsine was happy coz she was about to be set free.
But just think.Would she have smiled in the same manner had Darius or Mossius come to rescue them? The girl who couldn't even look at Alexander in the eye had the guts to steal his sword for Puru's sake.Moreover she was openly cheering for Puru.And who can forget the heart eyes which she gives Puru?Everyone sees it except Puru himself.She even imagined his silhouette in the tent but it turned out to be Alexander.

Great point here! Her smile would have been very different if it had been Darius or Mausius. This one just put a glow on her face.

In Puru's case we all know how and what he feels.He is like an open book.He is chivalrous and noble for everyone.And when it comes to the people he loves aka Anusuya and Laachi he can take it to another level altogether.
But Alex ko inn sab ke baare main kya pata?? From his perspective this guy from India came all the way to another country and was trying to take Barsine away from right under his nose.He was undaunted by Alexander's might.
Anyone would think that Puru is crazily in love with Barsine.Though they would surely wonder that why and how on earth did Puru fall for Barsine.

Yeah, we can't expect Alexander to mind and heart read, can we? He's just judging them based on the external "evidence" he sees. More than Barsine, I think now that he knows Puru's nature a bit more, he feels that Barsine must be very special for him to fight for her safety and risk his own life. Alexander doesn't know that Puru does this as a routine rakshak day job.

Regarding Alexander being bitter about Puru-Barsine's adhoori Kahani then I think it's prolly what @inlieu said.
Alexander wanted Barsine to fall for him instead.Yeah he doesn't have feelings for her but he surely wanted her to feel for him instead.
Before the entire fiasco happened,Alexander was kind to Barsine.
Some strong and powerful people have a tendency to bully the ones who are weaker than them.But there are some other powerful people who have a natural instinct to be protective towards the weaker ones.It makes them feel good when they protect someone.

It was a rhetorical question. I don't think he expects her to fall for him in a romantic sense but at least to show him respect and gratitude. She never once thanked him for not mistreating her family and for not taking Darius stupid offer to hand her over in exchange for half the kingdom. Doesn't she realize that he's being very generous?. She has this image of him as the devil incarnate after seeing the bodies in the river and the soldiers with severed arms during the Battle of Issus, but she conveniently forgets that her own father sneaked his men into Alexander's camp to amputate his own Farsi soldiers. 😡 Puru on the other hand, can do no wrong in her eyes! Destroy property, set off explosions that could hurt lots of innocent people, etc. But then, love is blind!

I believe Alexander genuinely felt good about himself when he behaved kindly with Barsine and co.When people commit such an act they expect some gratitude from the other party.

Spot on! Human nature is such.

But his actions didn't make Barsine and co any less afraid of him.The moment he realised that he felt that being the Good Guy got me thenga so lemme be the Bully and the Baddie.


I guess what's bugging Alexander right now is why does Barsine love Puru but fear him?
Even after he showed his chivalrous and merciful side to her it didn't change her opinion about him.Yet this girl adores Puru despite the fact that he defeated her own father.I doubt Alex has any inkling that Barsine herself helped Puru to defeat Darius.He will get a bigger shock.
Basically it's one question for him.'Why Porus and why not me????'

Well said, "Why Porus and why not me" but not in the romantic sense of course. I don't think Alexander expects hero worship from Barsine either but just some sense of normal behavior instead of that chickened look.

But I doubt that he will ever get his answers.Barsine is such a confused soul herself that she cannot even manage her feelings let alone anyone else's.

I want her to have an outburst one day that will shut everyone up, but I'm asking for too much from the CVs, aren't I? 😆

Edited by inlieu - 7 years ago

Related Topics

Top

Stay Connected with IndiaForums!

Be the first to know about the latest news, updates, and exclusive content.

Add to Home Screen!

Install this web app on your iPhone for the best experience. It's easy, just tap and then "Add to Home Screen".