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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: LawlessLawyer

Kaunsi shaadi behen??? Alex ki shaadi par why would they waste a single penny on Alex's wedding unless Puru is there to do Roxy's Kanyadaan?🤪

Puru : Jaa Behna Jaa!! Alexander se zyada pyaar tujhe pyaar aur koi nahi karsakta.Jaa jeele apni zindagi!! 😳

Roxy : Bhaiyaaa!!!😭 Aap bhi Babylon aate jaate rehna.Apni behen ko bhool mat jaana.

Puru : Avashya aaoonga Behen.Bas tum apne iss rakshas pati ko sambhaal ke rakhna.Kahin yeh mujhe phir se apna bal dikhane par vivash naa karde.

Roxy : Bilkul nahi karenge Bhaiya.Main inko poori tarah se sudhaar dungi😃

Puru : Woh toh tum zaroor karogi behna.Kyunki Puru ki behen...

Roxy :Koi kaam adhura nahi chodti😎

Alexander : Zeus!!!!! Tujhe main upar aake dekhta hoon.Yeh din dikhaane keliye mujhe dharti pe bheja??


I am so dreading any Puru-Roxana scenes because I feel they are going to be over the top face-palmingly cheesy!
Edited by inlieu - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago
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You made my day, kiddo! 🤗

I am off to the hospital now, but I shall still be laughing at this marvellous spoof of yours all the time they are twisting my poor limbs!

Keep it up, and I shall see you all again in the evening.

Shyamala Aunty.

Originally posted by: LawlessLawyer

Kaunsi shaadi behen??? Alex ki shaadi par why would they waste a single penny on Alex's wedding unless Puru is there to do Roxy's Kanyadaan?🤪
Puru : Jaa Behna Jaa!! Alexander se zyada pyaar tujhe pyaar aur koi nahi karsakta.Jaa jeele apni zindagi!! 😳

Roxy : Bhaiyaaa!!!😭 Aap bhi Babylon aate jaate rehna.Apni behen ko bhool mat jaana.

Puru : Avashya aaoonga Behen.Bas tum apne iss rakshas pati ko sambhaal ke rakhna.Kahin yeh mujhe phir se apna bal dikhane par vivash naa karde.

Roxy : Bilkul nahi karenge Bhaiya.Main inko poori tarah se sudhaar dungi😃

Puru : Woh toh tum zaroor karogi behna.Kyunki Puru ki behen...

Roxy :Koi kaam adhura nahi chodti😎

Alexander : Zeus!!!!! Tujhe main upar aake dekhta hoon.Yeh din dikhaane keliye mujhe dharti pe bheja??

Originally posted by: inlieu

No, they're going to start the saas-bahu sequences with a lavish wedding for Alexander and Hephaestion and then we can see Barsine dancing at his wedding. An emperor's wedding is gonna cost a lot of money, right?

Battle of the Hydaspes will be shown in one episode (260) with crazy CGI and voiceovers.

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Posted: 7 years ago
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I agree with all of this, but I doubt if your gameplan is going to fly with the CVs.

In fact, the other day, some were equating Alexander with Shivdutt and say ing that he should be shown only in flashes (on the Relax people! thread). And calling this till now largely imaginary concoction a biopic of Porus.

I responded to that suitably - you might like to take a look at it - but the fact is that they have, even after devoting several episodes to the Vishkanya and even more to Shivdutt rolling his eyes, and only 20% to Alexander, going to end up roughly 70 episodes short of 260.

Have you seen my calculations on Priya's thread? Please do. And also please hit the Like button when you have read, and liked, one of my responses. I never know if you have read them!

OK, bye for now. I am off for the next instalment of my dalliance with my orthopaedist. He is going to give me the scolding of my life!

Shyamala Aunty

Originally posted by: inlieu

I think one of the biggest mistakes the maker made was the Macedonia vs. India screen time. They had so much more material to work with from Alexander's real life that the writers wouldn't have to work too hard to set up scenes. For the Paurav Rashtra side they ran out of steam because there isn't enough material, and too many one-dimensional characters with little depth. Not enough to material or strength in their scrip to fill up 80% screentime with another 100+ episodes.


It's not too late though. They can show tons of stuff about Alexander's conquests, his personal life, decline in popularity amongst his general, etc. They can also show a lot of interesting politics-based tracks about Puru's rise to power by overthrowing the Shivdutt-Kanishk alliance and actually training with the army by working with Taxila and Dasyus to prepare the battle strategy. Just like we see Alexander becoming a legend, I wanted to see Poru's journey towards becoming a king. If done right, it can be very entertaining and gripping, but I don't know if the writers can last that long. What a shame!

@Aunty, I agree with what you said about quality vs quantity of episodes.

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Posted: 7 years ago
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Hi Aunty, I've read, liked, and replied to your post on the other thread regarding the episode count. I am going to stop thinking about what ifs or it'll drive me crazy.

I just finished watching today's episode (yes, I know, a little late to the party). We all hate what Kanishk did but I kind of sympathized with everything he said. The way he finally sat on the throne was actually quite awesome, though may be viewed as unethical. But let's not forget these kinds of coups were normal back in the days. At least he didn't have his father and Anusuya killed. Bamni's soul has been fractured by his son's betrayal and I don't think he will be able to rule as a king anymore even after Puru restores his power. It would make sense if Bamni abdicates once Puru is back, but let's see. What will they do with Kanishk? I can't imagine that Puru would kill him but what else than to lock him up so that Anusuya can free him again when Alexander arrives. 😆

As for the Pauravengers, at least the reason for them being able to escape through the hidden path was sort of acceptable but I don't see how and when Barsine got a chance to tell Puru about it.

The writers are getting sloppy with dialogues - Puru's using more Urdu words and Alexander said "janm" - it was jarring! 😡 I am quite picky about this sort of thing, especially as they've managed to keep the distinction in the show so far between the Macedonion/Persian speech and the ones from Bharat. 😆

The CVs didn't disappoint with the Vishuddhi scene, though I wish the rest of the Pauravengers had witnessed it. Or perhaps it's better they don't know this about Alexander, who tells people about his immunity to poison and then kills them of course so that they can't spread the word. So am I to now believe that his blood is too poisonous even for Vishuddhi? 😆 Anyway, I'd been waiting for this scene as it was Vishuddhi's niyati. Thanks CVs for small mercies!

Alexander asking Barsine if she was in love with Puru. 😆 This is the first time he's talked about romantic love and to me it just seemed a little odd that he should refer to it there and then. I think it's interesting he picked up on it because he probably thinks that she went from being doe eyed to actually meeting him in the eye, once she was emboldened by having Puru around. As for why she showed caring for Puru, tsk tsk Alexander, of course she would care about her rescuer. She's the one who sent him a message asking for help. 😉 And now that he shamed them into staying back and she took a stand to be there for the people, he's probably going to see more of her with her chin up. He chided her the previous day for not looking into a Shah's eyes and now he's going to see her look him in the eye in defiance more and more. Thank God Barsine grew a spine, though we're about to discover how long that lasts. 😆

I guess we are being prepped for Roxana's entry in his life, though it's beyond me how he can get romantic when all he's thinking about is wanting to get to India to teach Puru a lesson. I don't expect the CVs will invest enough time and effort in his love story to show the effect Roxana has on him and softening his temper. What's the lesson he'll teach Barsine after he kills her father, when he actually won't be able to find and kill him in the first place? Did Alexander marry her before or after going to India? It it's before then he'll end up being a cliched, jallad husband that I don't want to see. 🤢

Anyway, no matter how much they demonize him, I can't see how they can show Alexander marrying Barsine by force. Not at this stage of the story. It will not make sense, but then again expecting logic from the CVs is becoming a difficult task. As I mentioned in the other thread, Alexander going to India for vengeance against Puru for his public humiliation is just too lame for words. He's not that pathetic a character that he'll be blinded by fury. It will still be about reaching his personal goal of glory and being empire of the world. He just seems to be out for vengeance now and trying to teach Puru a lesson for "beating" him in front of the public (at least that's what the Pauravengers think), which is very different from the strategic mindset that Alexander has. I don't suppose we'll see anything about them crossing the Hindu Kush either.

I also loved that tiny detail of Alexander not blindly following Olympias' orders. He will do what he thinks is best and find other ways to punish the ladies. Reminded me of the earlier episodes where he taught the Greek kings interesting lessons. 😉

Finally, Rohit's hair is starting to distract me. They really ought to do something about it now. I understand he'd been chasing the Pauravengers down on horseback but even when he was in battle earlier and back in Macedonia, this didn't prevent him from having great hair. #CurlyBlondAlexander

All the best at the doctor's. Hope you feel better soon.

Originally posted by: sashashyam

I agree with all of this, but I doubt if your gameplan is going to fly with the CVs.

In fact, the other day, some were equating Alexander with Shivdutt and say ing that he should be shown only in flashes (on the Relax people! thread). And calling this till now largely imaginary concoction a biopic of Porus.

I responded to that suitably - you might like to take a look at it - but the fact is that they have, even after devoting several episodes to the Vishkanya and even more to Shivdutt rolling his eyes, and only 20% to Alexander, going to end up roughly 70 episodes short of 260.

Have you seen my calculations on Priya's thread? Please do. And also please hit the Like button when you have read, and liked, one of my responses. I never know if you have read them!

OK, bye for now. I am off for the next instalment of my dalliance with my orthopaedist. He is going to give me the scolding of my life!

Shyamala Aunty

Edited by inlieu - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago
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I am now waiting to take my XRays before the orthopaedist decided on the torments of physiotherapy he will inflict on me for the next month. So, I shall tackle your excellent post in brief.
My comments are in bold italics. I don't know how to colour them blue on my phone!

Shyamala Aunty

Originally posted by: inlieu

Hi Aunty, I've read, liked, and replied to your post on the other thread regarding the episode count. I am going to stop thinking about what ifs or it'll drive me crazy.

I just finished watching today's episode (yes, I know, a little late to the party). We all hate what Kanishk did but I kind of sympathized with everything he said. The way he finally sat on the throne was actually quite awesome, though may be viewed as unethical. But let's not forget these kinds of coups were normal back in the days. At least he didn't have his father and Anusuya killed. Bamni's soul has been fractured by his son's betrayal and I don't think he will be able to rule as a king anymore even after Puru restores his power. It would make sense if Bamni abdicates once Puru is back, but let's see. What will they do with Kanishk? I can't imagine that Puru would kill him but what else than to lock him up so that Anusuya can free him again when Alexander arrives. 😆

I felt exactly the same as you about Kanishka. He had very moving lines, and he delivered them with the surging anguish he has been feeling all these months. Yes, he was not a good guy when he was the yuvaraj, but the resentment and the sense of deprivation that eat away at him are genuine. I loved the way in which he stumped Bamni when he was talking of Puru being the elder of the two. I agree that Bamni will never recover from this psychological shock of learning what his younger son was actually feeling.

Anusuya is more senstive; she was worried about just this when Bamni tells her that Puru will be the yuvaraj. Her reactions yesterday were beautiful to behold, so muted and so sad. And the background music was very well done as well, especially in the beginning.

As for the Pauravengers, at least the reason for them being able to escape through the hidden path was sort of acceptable but I don't see how and when Barsine got a chance to tell Puru about it.

A clear goof up, but what is one more amidst so many?

And the extent of damage seems unbelievable. Did you notice that they did not mention the Persian dead at all? Probably they used special bombs that damage only Macedonian supplies, kill Macedonian soldiers and burn Macedonian horses. The last was awful.😡 And where do the bombs come from anyway?

The writer's are getting sloppy with dialogues - Puru's using more Urdu words and Alexander said "janm" - it was jarring! 😡 I am quite picky about this sort of thing, especially as they've managed to keep the distinction in the show so far between the Macedonion/Persian speech and the ones from Bharat. 😆

So am I, particular, I mean, and I agree with you completely on this.

The CVs didn't disappoint with the Vishuddhi scene, though I wish the rest of the Pauravengers had witnessed it. Or perhaps it's better they don't know this about Alexander, who tells people about his immunity to poison and then kills them of course so that they can't spread the word. So am I to now believe that his blood is too poisonous even for Vishuddhi? 😆 Anyway, I'd been waiting for this scene as it was Vishuddhi's niyati. Thanks CVs for small mercies!

Alexander asking Barsine if she was in love with Puru. 😆 This is the first time he's talked about romantic love and to me it just seemed a little odd that he should refer to it there and then. I think it's interesting he picked up on it because he probably thinks that she went from being doe eyed to actually meeting him in the eye, once she was emboldened by having Puru around. As for why she showed caring for Puru, tsk tsk Alexander, of course she would care about her rescuer. She's the one who sent him a message asking for help. 😉 And now that he shamed them into staying back and she took a stand to be there for the people, he's probably going to see more of her with her chin up. He chided her the previous day for not looking into a Shah's eyes and now he's going to see her look him in the eye in defiance more and more. Thank God Barsine grew a spine, though we're about to discover how long that lasts. 😆

I find it tough to care about any part of Barsine's physical apparatus.

I guess we are being prepped for Roxana's entry in his life, though it's beyond me how he can get romantic when all he's thinking about is wanting to get to India to teach Puru a lesson. I don't expect the CVs will invest enough time and effort in his love story to show the effect Roxana has on him and softening his temper. What's the lesson he'll teach Barsine after he kills her father, when he actually won't be able to find and kill him in the first place? Did Alexander marry her before or after going to India? It it's before then he'll end up being a cliched, jallad husband that I don't want to see. 🤢

Historically, he marries her and Parysatis , in a double wedding, in 324 BC, after his return from India. I don't think they will show this at all. Right now, the last thing he would think of doing, methinks, would be to marry her, least of all by force.

Anyway, no matter how much they demonize him, I can't see how they can show Alexander marrying Barsine by force. Not at this stage of the story. It will not make sense, but then again expecting logic from the CVs is becoming a difficult task. As I mentioned in the other thread, Alexander going to India for vengeance against Puru for his public humiliation is just too lame for words. He's not that pathetic a character that he'll be blinded by fury. It will still be about reaching his personal goal of glory and being empire of the world. He just seems to be out for vengeance now and trying to teach Puru a lesson for "beating" him in front of the public (at least that's what the Pauravengers think), which is very different from the strategic mindset that Alexander has. I don't suppose we'll see anything about them crossing the Hindu Kush either.

Agree completely with all of this.

I also loved that tiny detail of Alexander not blindly following Olympias' orders. He will do what he thinks is best and find other ways to punish the ladies. Reminded me of the earlier episodes where he taught the Greek kings interesting lessons. 😉

Finally, Rohit's hair is starting to distract me. They really ought to do something about it now. I understand he'd been chasing the Pauravengers down on horseback but even when he was in battle earlier and back in Macedonia, this didn't prevent him from having great hair. #CurlyBlondAlexander

It is getting frizzled by the heat and the dust. A proper hair treatment and it wil recover .

All the best at the doctor's. Hope you feel better soon.
Thanks, my dear. The XRay technician beckons! Bye.

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Posted: 7 years ago
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Thanks a lot Aunty.
Actually I don't think they ever intended to show Egypt or Syria because the production guys said they'd constructed 5 massive sets to represent different kingdoms and we've already seen them all:
  1. Paurav Rashtra
  2. Taxila
  3. Dasyu kingdom
  4. Macedonia
  5. Faras (which is probably also going to be reused for Bactria and Gaugamela)
That's why I never expected them to show other lands, especially not the Hindu Kush expedition, which would have been very exciting. It was a major achievement that Alexander managed to cross it successfully with his army and brave extreme weather conditions.

On a side note, I understand Umergaon is popular for shooting serials, especially Swastik ones, but by now I even know the trees and beach there by heart, having seen them in 3 shows already. 😆 When you look at it on Google maps it really is a spectacular location in terms of landscape - forests, beach, sea-side feel, open space!

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